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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 8:36:21 GMT
It seems that there will be a mid season change in the regulations to allow the use of five subs in the Championship, as used when last season was resumed after lockdown. The EFL have apparently given it there blessing and with most sides in the Championship in agreement it appears a forthcoming vote will be a formality. I wonder if its only a matter of time before this would be extended down the tiers. Personally think three subs is about right and five simply allows a manager to drastically alter his formation when he cocked up his original game plan, a kind of get out of jail card.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 18, 2020 8:37:34 GMT
It seems that there will be a mid season change in the regulations to allow the use of five subs in the Championship, as used when last season was resumed after lockdown. The EFL have apparently given it there blessing and with most sides in the Championship in agreement it appears a forthcoming vote will be a formality. I wonder if its only a matter of time before this would be extended down the tiers. Personally think three subs is about right and five simply allows a manager to drastically alter his formation when he cocked up his original game plan, a kind of get out of jail card. What annoys me about the fuss with all this was Klopp and Guardiola moaning about it after their game, yet didn't even use 3 subs!! DC Wouldn't have give a F##k and would have made 4 subs to make a point!
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Post by Jomo on Nov 18, 2020 8:51:13 GMT
It seems that there will be a mid season change in the regulations to allow the use of five subs in the Championship, as used when last season was resumed after lockdown. The EFL have apparently given it there blessing and with most sides in the Championship in agreement it appears a forthcoming vote will be a formality. I wonder if its only a matter of time before this would be extended down the tiers. Personally think three subs is about right and five simply allows a manager to drastically alter his formation when he cocked up his original game plan, a kind of get out of jail card. What annoys me about the fuss with all this was Klopp and Guardiola moaning about it after their game, yet didn't even use 3 subs!! DC Wouldn't have give a F##k and would have made 4 subs to make a point! The likes of Klopp and Guardiola moan and moan about the fixture congestion, yet they have way more players than any EFL club, which incidentally has 8 more league matches each season. Then they moan that their youngsters don't get enough competitive game time. Always trying to have their cake and eat it.
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Post by legas on Nov 18, 2020 9:22:16 GMT
It seems that there will be a mid season change in the regulations to allow the use of five subs in the Championship, as used when last season was resumed after lockdown. The EFL have apparently given it there blessing and with most sides in the Championship in agreement it appears a forthcoming vote will be a formality. I wonder if its only a matter of time before this would be extended down the tiers. Personally think three subs is about right and five simply allows a manager to drastically alter his formation when he cocked up his original game plan, a kind of get out of jail card. What annoys me about the fuss with all this was Klopp and Guardiola moaning about it after their game, yet didn't even use 3 subs!! DC Wouldn't have give a F##k and would have made 4 subs to make a point! There are games where DC would have made 5 subs after 20 minutes if he could have done!
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Post by gassa on Nov 18, 2020 10:23:36 GMT
Football's getting a bit like American Football. The next thing is we'll have specialist penalty takers who come on only to take a penalty and then leave the field of play... until there's another penalty. Or specialist 'bend it like Beckham'ers who will have similar game roles. FIFA/The FA/The Premier League have done their very best to ruin football. Give Football Back To The People!
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Post by aghast on Nov 18, 2020 11:02:34 GMT
Football's getting a bit like American Football. The next thing is we'll have specialist penalty takers who come on only to take a penalty and then leave the field of play... until there's another penalty. Or specialist 'bend it like Beckham'ers who will have similar game roles. FIFA/The FA/The Premier League have done their very best to ruin football. Give Football Back To The People! With lucrative advertisement breaks before penalties and free kicks....
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Post by alanrg on Nov 18, 2020 11:20:37 GMT
Now the rule has changed to allow 5 subs does this mean u can name 9 subs instead of the usual 7
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 18, 2020 12:21:22 GMT
Just been announced for whole of ELF that you can use 5 subs from this weekends game! That escalated quickly!
Championship club's can name up to 9 subs but Leagues One & Two only 7 which I don't understand.
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Post by Quarters on Nov 18, 2020 13:04:35 GMT
Is it they can only be made in three slots?
Was a game last year where 4 subs had been made but the team ended with 10 on the pitch due to injury and could not make a substitution.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 18, 2020 13:20:35 GMT
Is it they can only be made in three slots? Was a game last year where 4 subs had been made but the team ended with 10 on the pitch due to injury and could not make a substitution. Hopefully it will be in the 3 slots, then it's not as bad. Otherwise teams will use it to slow the game down and waste time when losing. Maybe if a player is injured, an allowance can be made. But then player's might be told to fake an injury, if they want to make a change.
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Post by Westy on Nov 18, 2020 13:32:40 GMT
It seems that there will be a mid season change in the regulations to allow the use of five subs in the Championship, as used when last season was resumed after lockdown. The EFL have apparently given it there blessing and with most sides in the Championship in agreement it appears a forthcoming vote will be a formality. I wonder if its only a matter of time before this would be extended down the tiers. Personally think three subs is about right and five simply allows a manager to drastically alter his formation when he cocked up his original game plan, a kind of get out of jail card. I agree somewhat with you there, but I also think that the magic of football is the approach. There'll be DC's who'll throw 5 subs on after 10 minutes, orthodox managers who will make the same changes at the same times every match, and cod be a manager who brings on a new player every 15 minutes. It can only add to things I think, and add a bit more rotation into things (bearing in mind the new 20 player cap coming in down from 22), less players with more chances to play. I can see the angle at least!
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Post by Rod1883 on Nov 18, 2020 14:13:06 GMT
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 18, 2020 15:01:57 GMT
Que teams going 1-0 and using all 5 subs to waste as much time as possible
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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 18, 2020 15:17:24 GMT
I hate the idea of this it will make games flow less and feel like a pre season game. Making all these changes that's 10 substitution and say all these occur in the 2nd half the game will be so stop start and have 6 to 8 minutes of injury time every week. I just can't see why it's needed just rest a player if he is tired I don't get how playing 70/80 minutes every week before being subbed is going to help stop injuries.
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Post by Westy on Nov 18, 2020 15:26:52 GMT
I hate the idea of this it will make games flow less and feel like a pre season game. Making all these changes that's 10 substitution and say all these occur in the 2nd half the game will be so stop start and have 6 to 8 minutes of injury time every week. I just can't see why it's needed just rest a player if he is tired I don't get how playing 70/80 minutes every week before being subbed is going to help stop injuries. I've always wondered why we (the Football world) don't use Ice Hockey style timers. Clock stops when the whistle stops, counts down to 0. Easy, stoppage time accurately accounted for!
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Post by playtowin on Nov 18, 2020 15:38:22 GMT
Oh dear this will tip the balance towards clubs that can afford bigger squads. With all the sub breaks they may as well have 4 quarters so extra time doesnt go on too long. That will allow for more adverts on tv.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 18, 2020 15:59:34 GMT
On the plus side we do have a bigger squad this year and some of those on the bench are unlucky to miss out on the starting eleven. It’s a shame we cannot at least have nine on the bench like they can in the championship. Because of that, with one keeper on the bench and probably at least one defender, how often would we use all five anyway? Most games would probably see eight subs max but let’s hope this time gets added on at the end.
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Post by CrispPusher on Nov 18, 2020 22:07:28 GMT
Hate to say it but this makes Garner a visionary, with his quantity over quality approach to squad building.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 19, 2020 9:01:40 GMT
I read this morning that clubs will only be allowed to make the subs on three occasions (excluding half time). Could cause an issue if you only make four subs, used up your three occasions and then someone gets inured late in the game. At the same time, at least there shouldn't be much more time wasted making the changes.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 19, 2020 9:04:31 GMT
I read this morning that clubs will only be allowed to make the subs on three occasions (excluding half time). Could cause an issue if you only make four subs, used up your three occasions and then someone gets inured late in the game. At the same time, at least there shouldn't be much more time wasted making the changes. I suppose nobody has ever been able to make subs on more than 3 occasions in competitive games before anyway, so not really much different in that respect.
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