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Post by gasandelectricity on Jan 31, 2021 8:18:46 GMT
Extremely disappointing signing.
Sadly the huff and puff about our last two windows has appeared to be very short sighted.
I guess we shouldn’t have been surprised Coventry let him come to us.
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Post by socrates on Jan 31, 2021 8:20:01 GMT
I think he’s a good player who plays most games like he’s terrified of getting injured and that’s holding him and us back.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 31, 2021 8:34:17 GMT
I think he’s a good player who plays most games like he’s terrified of getting injured and that’s holding him and us back. Yeah. It’s like watching Tom Nichols playing as a #8 - apart from I think Nichols actually got stuck in more.
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 31, 2021 8:46:03 GMT
I think he’s a good player who plays most games like he’s terrified of getting injured and that’s holding him and us back. Yeah. It’s like watching Tom Nichols playing as a #8 - apart from I think Nichols actually got stuck in more. Nichols would walk into this side. I’m not sure if his best position has been worked out, is he a deep sitting playmaker or a top of the diamond running at you forward type? He’s too weak to sit in a midfield 2, and from what I’ve seen hardly ever looks to drive forward with the ball. Possibly ok in a team brimming with confidence but looks lost in a poor team which at present needs to scrap for every point. Hope he turns it around, but I’d be looking to bench him and play Hargreaves in there. McCormick needs to start, and we desperately need to sign a striker or this rabble are taking us down.
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Post by bluebiro on Jan 31, 2021 8:54:23 GMT
Potential never gets you out of a relegation scrap Drop him or move him on by monday and get another rufty tufty midfielder from anywhere even if we have to get him from non league before the window closes
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 9:21:25 GMT
Potential never gets you out of a relegation scrap Drop him or move him on by monday and get another rufty tufty midfielder from anywhere even if we have to get him from non league before the window closes You mean one like Ayunga, that's worked at well so far!
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Post by bluebiro on Jan 31, 2021 9:57:52 GMT
Potential never gets you out of a relegation scrap Drop him or move him on by monday and get another rufty tufty midfielder from anywhere even if we have to get him from non league before the window closes You mean one like Ayunga, that's worked at well so far! totally different positions. Different skill sets.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Jan 31, 2021 10:20:32 GMT
I actually don’t blame Zain.
When he played for cov he was a attack minded cm.
Garner brought him in and had him sitting in like a Quaterback only trying to pick diagonal balls despite having 5 at the back anyway.
Then Tis initially came in, played 4 at the back and had zain pushing all. At that point I saw his purpose as he was putting through balls into Sammy, Hanlon and Daly for fun.
But for some bizarre reason, tis has reverted back to Garner’s 5 at the back and got him playing deep again.
IMO this squad is not bad, but it is being set up to its potential and playing on the back foot, zain included.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 10:20:36 GMT
Yeah don’t single out one player.
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Post by barumgas on Jan 31, 2021 10:28:09 GMT
Yeah don’t single out one player. Agreed. Just remember how nasty it got on here about Nichols
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 31, 2021 10:33:05 GMT
Yeah don’t single out one player. He’s a grown man and is used to playing in front of thousands of demanding fans each week, I’m sure he can handle one thread on a forum he won’t read that says “any ideas?” Some sensitive souls on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 10:35:22 GMT
Yeah don’t single out one player. Agreed. Just remember how nasty it got on here about Nichols Yes,it’s a team game plus who knows what players are going through especially in the present climate.it’s up to the manager to motivate them and getting them to play together.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 10:38:32 GMT
Yeah don’t single out one player. He’s a grown man and is used to playing in front of thousands of demanding fans each week, I’m sure he can handle one thread on a forum he won’t read that says “any ideas?” Some sensitive souls on here. Bet you were the bully in the playground.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jan 31, 2021 11:06:31 GMT
When you consider he's no doubt on good money he has to go down as one of the worst signings we've made in recent times.
I'd put him in the same category as Payne and Bennett.
Players we signed to make a big impact that not only underperformed but also play like theiy're bigger than the club and they don't really want to be here.
The odd fancy flick does make him a good footballer.
He brings absolutely nothing positive to the team apart from the odd half decent set piece delivery. His passing is in open play is poor and mainly backwards or sideways. He rarely tracks midfield runners and can't tackle for toffee. He loses every 50/50 and wont even challenge for aerial balls. He slows the game down so much the opposition could have a tea break and still get back in position.
I don't think he's setting a good example for the rest of the squad and I agree with RoverDrive, we should do everything we can to get him off the books.
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 31, 2021 11:38:19 GMT
I actually think we have quite a few good players but the system we play is wrong. Whenever we go to three at the back we get torn about on the wings. Tisdales main tactic has been for the central defenders to receive a short ball out from the goalkeeper and then either boot the thing as far as they can or pass it across between themselves and then hoof it or give a poor pass to a midfielder who then has to pass the bloody thing back to them- this is generally Westbrooke who does generally pass accurately sideways and back or instead it goes to Grant or Ogogo and you can't guarantee it is going to go to one of our players. The only t6ime anything positive happens is if by luck the ball ends up with Oz or Nicholson and then they really only have Hanlon to give it to. If Tisdale wants to play long ball he may as well get back to the keeper hitting it long and push players right up to compete for it and the central midfielders feed off the front players. I personally feel he could do worse than push Leahy up and play somebody else left back! 4-4-2 is the only way forward as the three at the back just hasn't worked often enough and this is mainly because our central defenders all lack pace and concentration. By concentration I mean watching the movement of their opponent and organising between each other. Hanlan is a good player if he receives the ball either to his feet or better still to run on to it-he is not a targetman. Tisdales use of subs is bewildering just like yesterday when we took off Oz and Hanlan and brought on two inferior models. These tactics will have us relegation bound.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 31, 2021 12:20:34 GMT
PT took Ozt to try two upfront what's baffling about that, if he hadn't you'd have just posted it was baffling why he kept just one upfront most of the game, then when two upfront didn't work with just over 5 mins to go he subbed off Hanlan for McCormick. PT gets stick if he doesn't make changes now he does when he tries something different.
As far as playing 4-4-2 when PT tried that we lost 3 games in a week, basically whatever he does he's stuck with BG's unbalanced squad, which has no real wingers, two forwards, until Daly returns but 4 LB's and loads of young CM's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 12:25:17 GMT
PT took Ozt to try two upfront what's baffling about that, if he hadn't you'd have just posted it was baffling why he kept just one upfront most of the game, then when two upfront didn't work with just over 5 mins to go he subbed off Hanlan for McCormick. PT gets stick if he doesn't make changes now he does when he tries something different. As far as playing 4-4-2 when PT tried that we lost 3 games in a week, basically whatever he does he's stuck with BG's unbalanced squad, which has no real wingers, two forwards, until Daly returns but 4 LB's and loads of young CM's. PT didn’t have to take the job and new the players he would have to work with?
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 31, 2021 12:36:50 GMT
PT took Ozt to try two upfront what's baffling about that, if he hadn't you'd have just posted it was baffling why he kept just one upfront most of the game, then when two upfront didn't work with just over 5 mins to go he subbed off Hanlan for McCormick. PT gets stick if he doesn't make changes now he does when he tries something different. As far as playing 4-4-2 when PT tried that we lost 3 games in a week, basically whatever he does he's stuck with BG's unbalanced squad, which has no real wingers, two forwards, until Daly returns but 4 LB's and loads of young CM's. In a nutshell
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Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 31, 2021 12:38:45 GMT
I actually don’t blame Zain. When he played for cov he was a attack minded cm. Garner brought him in and had him sitting in like a Quaterback only trying to pick diagonal balls despite having 5 at the back anyway. Then Tis initially came in, played 4 at the back and had zain pushing all. At that point I saw his purpose as he was putting through balls into Sammy, Hanlon and Daly for fun. But for some bizarre reason, tis has reverted back to Garner’s 5 at the back and got him playing deep again. IMO this squad is not bad, but it is being set up to its potential and playing on the back foot, zain included. Absolutely spot on there was no need to change it even with the injuries we had players here that maybe not as good but could have filled in. Westbrooke was producing some great football with plenty of flicks,tricks and some good forward passing but has now been put back to a more defensive position where you can't play that way.
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 31, 2021 12:51:50 GMT
Westbrooke is a very talented footballer. Sadly out if the Coventry midfield players that ran us ragged against us last season,he wasn't the best. The lad from BCFC82 Walsh and O'Hare were better. Westbrooke is not a roll your sleeves,get stuck in type of player and probably never will be. Good teams can afford luxury players,poor teams cannot. At the moment,we are poor.
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