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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 1, 2021 9:41:13 GMT
So far Accrington have played 3-5-2 in all matches this season. They are well drilled and have shown that they are up there with the best in this league. I can't believe that a team that was a water take milk advert when i was a kid are higher than my Rovers. They currently sit 9th but with games in hand they could easily be top 5. They will be looking gain 3 valuable game in hand points against us on Tuesday and we will definitely be the underdogs once again. Up top they have Dion Charles as their top scorer with 8 in the league so far. His strike partner Colby Bishop has 5. Pritchard 2.8, Charles 2.5, Butcher 2.3 take the most Shots per game Gas comparison: Walker 4.0, Ayunga 3.4, Nicholson 2.9 and Oztumer 2.6 Key passes per game for them is mcConville with 2.8 Gas comparison: Westbrooke 2.2 & Oztumer 2.3Winning the ball back are Burgess 2.7 and Nottingam 2.5 Tackles per game Gas comparison: Hargreaves 4.9, Koiki 2.5, Tutonda 2.5, Harries 2.5, Grant 1.8 and Wililams 1.8Clearances per game wise they have Sykes 7.0, Sama 5.3, Burgess 4.9 and Hughes 4.1 Gas comparison: Baldwin 5.6, Harries 5.5, Ehmer 4.3 and Kilgour 3.5Battling in the air they have Burgess 6.0 Skyes 5.8 and Bishop 5.4 Aerials won per match Gas comparison: Ayunga 7.2, Baldwin 3.2 and Kilgour 3.6*Please note - League stats only + Strengths
Shooting from direct free kicks - Strong Attacking set pieces - Strong Creating long shot opportunities - Strong Coming back from losing positions - Strong Creating scoring chances - Strong Aerial duels - Strong Defending set pieces - Strong Protecting the lead - Strong - Weaknesses
Finishing scoring chances - Weak Accrington's Style of Play
Take long shots Take a lot of shots Attack through the middle Attacking down the left Long balls Attempt crosses often Consistent first eleven Playing in their own half Non-aggressive Well Rochdale was a bit frustrating, two soft/defendable goals and some poor finishing saw us take nothing from a game where we had 60% possession (9% of which was more in their final third than ours), 17 attempts, 79% pass success rate, double the aerials won, 7 more corners than them... the list goes on... either way at this point its the damn points we need not the stats. That was our opportunity to claim 3 points and drag ourselves up the table one position at a time. Anyway next up is certainly a different opponent again. I think I would describe them as a team similar to Crewe in that they will know their positions and will be comfortable to play but probably more threatening... which is worrying as we conceded 3 at Crewe. I think, although stats wise the 3/5 at the back warranted merits, at times it looked slow and allowed time for our opponents to set their defences up to deal with what we are capable of throwing at them. On that basis and the fact that Tis wants change to the tempo and basic football again I wouldn't be surprised to see us go back 4 again. We then have a bit of a problem though... Upson and Ogogo our experienced DM (and base of the pivot) have injuries and although Grant was looking better with Ogogo in the team, he also looked absolutely exhausted at the end of the Peterborough game and started on the bench. Either way... he will have to start as we don't have another DM available unless Liddle is now fit (and is a DM?) or Mehew returns from his loan? My line line up: . | . | Day | . | . | Williams | Kilgour | . | Ehmer | Leahy | . | . | Grant | . | . | . | Hargreaves | . | McCormick | . | . | . | Oztumer | . | . | . | Ayunga | . | Nicholson | . |
* assuming Upson, Ogogo, Baldwin and Daly are still injured So I have gone with a buzzing, energetic midfield and would like Hargreaves and McCormick to get stuck in... Grant has to get stuck in, we have no DMs left. Due to the fact that we are less likely to play through their midfield I think Ayunga needs to be on. If I am honest with myself, for the first time in my posts I can't see us getting anything out of the this one... on that.. I think it might be wise to play Ayunga who is far superior in the air to any attacker in the club on the small sample size of data we have for him. We need the ball to stick or at least to be won, when we go direct... which we do... a fair bit these days. Hanlan gets a bit of a rest before coming on in the second half. They have strong experienced defenders that we wont get much joy out of in the air or trying to spin around IMO.
What do you think? What would you do?
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Post by percy on Feb 1, 2021 9:41:16 GMT
As disappointing as Saturday was, we do seem to be "unlucky" with injuries. I agreed 4 at the back is the way to go but would have stuck with Ehmer - Kilgour - Baldwin if all fit. Losing Baldwin should have meant revert to back 4. Other than that just need to cut out the terrible mistakes and make the possession and shots off target dominance pay! Assuming Baldwin, Daly and Ogogo out...
-------------Day Williams Ehmer Kilgour Leahy McCormick Hargreaves Grant -----------Oztumer --------Hanlon Nicholson
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Feb 1, 2021 11:50:46 GMT
If we set up with 5 at the back we’re doomed to failure IMO because we’ll be putting ourselves on the back foot once again.
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William - Kilgour - Ehmer - Leahy
———Grant - McCormick
-Sammy - Westbrooke - Oz —————Hanlon
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 1, 2021 13:13:16 GMT
If we set up with 5 at the back we’re doomed to failure IMO because we’ll be putting ourselves on the back foot once again. ——————Day William - Kilgour - Ehmer - Leahy ———Grant - McCormick -Sammy - Westbrooke - Oz —————Hanlon McCormick is never going to be a DCM, and if we start with Westbrooke we may as well conceded a 3-0 loss now and stay safe in Bristol
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Feb 1, 2021 13:27:11 GMT
If we set up with 5 at the back we’re doomed to failure IMO because we’ll be putting ourselves on the back foot once again. ——————Day William - Kilgour - Ehmer - Leahy ———Grant - McCormick -Sammy - Westbrooke - Oz —————Hanlon McCormick is never going to be a DCM, and if we start with Westbrooke we may as well conceded a 3-0 loss now and stay safe in Bristol not all number 8s have to be a CDM. Grant can cover the defensive and dirty side to the game, let McCormick play with more freedom, pass the ball around the park as well as he does and feed into Sammy, Oz and Zain as well he does. Zain is a great footballer, unfortunately we just don’t utilise him well enough playing him defensive, he needs to be further up the park linking in with Hanlon Oz and Sammy. That’s when we’ve see the best of him.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 1, 2021 13:27:13 GMT
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Williams - Baldwin - Kilgour - Leahy
Hargreaves - Grant - Westbrooke - McCormick
——————Nicholson
——————Ayunga
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Post by bridgwatergas on Feb 1, 2021 13:30:50 GMT
Play McCormick 100% and Baldwin if fit. 4-4-2 Day Ehmer Baldwin Kilgour Leahy Williams grant McCormick Dave T Oz Nicholson Give Hanlan a rest and use him as an impact sub. We are flogging that guy to death. One hamstring injury to him and we are relegated I disagree with we are relegated how many goals has he scored this season? Our hopes will rely on Daly getting and staying fit.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 1, 2021 13:35:32 GMT
Play McCormick 100% and Baldwin if fit. 4-4-2 Day Ehmer Baldwin Kilgour Leahy Williams grant McCormick Dave T Oz Nicholson Give Hanlan a rest and use him as an impact sub. We are flogging that guy to death. One hamstring injury to him and we are relegated I disagree with we are relegated how many goals has he scored this season? Our hopes will rely on Daly getting and staying fit. Hanlan has 6 goals, Daly 4 and Nicholson 4. Lose any of them and we are in trouble badly.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Feb 1, 2021 13:39:51 GMT
Our best performances under PT have come when we've played either 4231 or a midfield diamond so I'd definitely go back to that. Assuming the injured players are all still out I'd go Day Williams Kilgour Ehmer Leahy Grant Hargreaves McCormick Oztuhmer Hanlan Nicholson Hargreaves might not be the most creative but alongside McCormick he'll give us energy in midfield, Westbrooke was poor on Sat, I'm not writing him off but would give him a break In recent games our best performance was at P'boro when we played 5 at the back, which Accrington also seem to play, you're losing Baldwin to play Hargreaves, who'll probably end up in non league football when he leaves Rovers, I'm not sure that's a better option than 5 at the back or playing Baldwin or Harries, or even Liddle as the DCM, alongside Grant. Whoever we play I just hope Westbrooke doesn't start. I've assumed Baldwin won't be fit, if he is then the option for a back 5 is there but personally I think we're better with a 4.
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Post by TAGas on Feb 1, 2021 14:55:16 GMT
In recent games our best performance was at P'boro when we played 5 at the back, which Accrington also seem to play, you're losing Baldwin to play Hargreaves, who'll probably end up in non league football when he leaves Rovers, I'm not sure that's a better option than 5 at the back or playing Baldwin or Harries, or even Liddle as the DCM, alongside Grant. Whoever we play I just hope Westbrooke doesn't start. I've assumed Baldwin won't be fit, if he is then the option for a back 5 is there but personally I think we're better with a 4. Agreed, we tend to lose less when we play a back four
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Post by horfield on Feb 1, 2021 14:58:39 GMT
Starting tomorrow we have eight games in 28 days, that's a game every 3.5 days, a big ask for any team let alone for a side when a striker last scored for the club on January 2nd.
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Post by socrates on Feb 1, 2021 15:02:30 GMT
Our best performances under PT have come when we've played either 4231 or a midfield diamond so I'd definitely go back to that. Assuming the injured players are all still out I'd go Day Williams Kilgour Ehmer Leahy Grant Hargreaves McCormick Oztuhmer Hanlan Nicholson Hargreaves might not be the most creative but alongside McCormick he'll give us energy in midfield, Westbrooke was poor on Sat, I'm not writing him off but would give him a break Perhaps that 11but the formation is too narrow and we’ll be too predictable I’d go 4231 with nicholson and Hargreaves out wide Nicholson on the right cutting in on his left which I think is his best position.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 1, 2021 15:07:31 GMT
A tough game. I’d be surprised if we come back with anything.
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Post by susan1950 on Feb 1, 2021 15:16:11 GMT
So far Accrington have played 3-5-2 in all matches this season. They are well drilled and have shown that they are up there with the best in this league. I can't believe that a team that was a Wee wee take milk advert when i was a kid are higher than my Rovers. They currently sit 9th but with games in hand they could easily be top 5. They will be looking gain 3 valuable game in hand points against us on Tuesday and we will definitely be the underdogs once again. Up top they have Dion Charles as their top scorer with 8 in the league so far. His strike partner Colby Bishop has 5. Pritchard 2.8, Charles 2.5, Butcher 2.3 take the most Shots per game Gas comparison: Walker 4.0, Ayunga 3.4, Nicholson 2.9 and Oztumer 2.6 Key passes per game for them is mcConville with 2.8 Gas comparison: Westbrooke 2.2 & Oztumer 2.3Winning the ball back are Burgess 2.7 and Nottingam 2.5 Tackles per game Gas comparison: Hargreaves 4.9, Koiki 2.5, Tutonda 2.5, Harries 2.5, Grant 1.8 and Wililams 1.8Clearances per game wise they have Sykes 7.0, Sama 5.3, Burgess 4.9 and Hughes 4.1 Gas comparison: Baldwin 5.6, Harries 5.5, Ehmer 4.3 and Kilgour 3.5Battling in the air they have Burgess 6.0 Skyes 5.8 and Bishop 5.4 Aerials won per match Gas comparison: Ayunga 7.2, Baldwin 3.2 and Kilgour 3.6*Please note - League stats only + Strengths
Shooting from direct free kicks - Strong Attacking set pieces - Strong Creating long shot opportunities - Strong Coming back from losing positions - Strong Creating scoring chances - Strong Aerial duels - Strong Defending set pieces - Strong Protecting the lead - Strong - Weaknesses
Finishing scoring chances - Weak Accrington's Style of Play
Take long shots Take a lot of shots Attack through the middle Attacking down the left Long balls Attempt crosses often Consistent first eleven Playing in their own half Non-aggressive Well Rochdale was a bit frustrating, two soft/defendable goals and some poor finishing saw us take nothing from a game where we had 60% possession (9% of which was more in their final third than ours), 17 attempts, 79% pass success rate, double the aerials won, 7 more corners than them... the list goes on... either way at this point its the damn points we need not the stats. That was our opportunity to claim 3 points and drag ourselves up the table one position at a time. Anyway next up is certainly a different opponent again. I think I would describe them as a team similar to Crewe in that they will know their positions and will be comfortable to play but probably more threatening... which is worrying as we conceded 3 at Crewe. I think, although stats wise the 3/5 at the back warranted merits, at times it looked slow and allowed time for our opponents to set their defences up to deal with what we are capable of throwing at them. On that basis and the fact that Tis wants change to the tempo and basic football again I wouldn't be surprised to see us go back 4 again. We then have a bit of a problem though... Upson and Ogogo our experienced DM (and base of the pivot) have injuries and although Grant was looking better with Ogogo in the team, he also looked absolutely exhausted at the end of the Peterborough game and started on the bench. Either way... he will have to start as we don't have another DM available unless Liddle is now fit (and is a DM?) or Mehew returns from his loan? My line line up: . | . | Day | . | . | Williams | Kilgour | . | Ehmer | Leahy | . | . | Grant | . | . | . | Hargreaves | . | McCormick | . | . | . | Oztumer | . | . | . | Ayunga | . | Nicholson | . |
* assuming Upson, Ogogo, Baldwin and Daly are still injured So I have gone with a buzzing, energetic midfield and would like Hargreaves and McCormick to get stuck in... Grant has to get stuck in, we have no DMs left. Due to the fact that we are less likely to play through their midfield I think Ayunga needs to be on. If I am honest with myself, for the first time in my posts I can't see us getting anything out of the this one... on that.. I think it might be wise to play Ayunga who is far superior in the air to any attacker in the club on the small sample size of data we have for him. We need the ball to stick or at least to be won, when we go direct... which we do... a fair bit these days. Hanlan gets a bit of a rest before coming on in the second half. They have strong experienced defenders that we wont get much joy out of in the air or trying to spin around IMO.
What do you think? What would you do?
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Post by kampucheagas on Feb 1, 2021 15:45:00 GMT
4-1-4-1
Day
Williams Kilgour Ehmer Leahy
Grant
Nicholson McCormick Ozzy Tutonda
Hanlan
Bit of width, pace and youth. Hanlan for Tutonda and Daly up top would in my opinion be about our strongest line up at present?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 1, 2021 15:46:27 GMT
4-1-4-1 Day Williams Kilgour Ehmer Leahy Grant Nicholson McCormick Ozzy Tutonda Hanlan Bit of width, pace and youth. Hanlan for Tutonda and Daly up top would in my opinion be about our strongest line up at present? Imagine all the running at the defenders with that lot on... droooool!
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 1, 2021 17:21:13 GMT
You all chose Williams as right back, but I thought he was poor on saturday
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 1, 2021 17:40:14 GMT
We will lose. We have a team of "Southern Softies"
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 1, 2021 17:59:16 GMT
We will lose. We have a team of "Southern Softies" Don't let Sam Nicholson hear you say that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 18:34:27 GMT
Rovers to romp home 3-0 win with a hat trick from the 'on-fire' Ayunga. Elmer leading the team with a dogged determination and organisational skills in defense and Westbrook tackling like a terror in midfield.
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