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Jaakkola
Feb 24, 2021 10:18:20 GMT
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Post by alanrg on Feb 24, 2021 10:18:20 GMT
Anybody know when Anssi is due back do we ever need him the defence lacks confidence with Day or JVS don’t rate either of them
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 24, 2021 10:30:19 GMT
Anybody know when Anssi is due back do we ever need him the defence lacks confidence with Day or JVS don’t rate either of them How our defence would have the temerity to not have confidence in a goalkeeper is beyond me. You could put some marigolds on a badger and it would still have a higher ability level than our defence.
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Post by justin blue on Feb 24, 2021 10:46:52 GMT
Day is a decent keeper, he's not Jaakkola, but he's ok at this level. The rest of the team is the problem we allow teams to suck us in and counter and we cannot defend set pieces.
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 24, 2021 10:57:13 GMT
The most difficult thing for a goalkeeper is when the defenders freeze at the last second and don't do what you expect them to do. I think there can be a case at set pieces for too many cooks to spoil the broth and by bringing everybody back for a corner you actually make the situation worse. You have to get the concept of marking into those defenders. If you have a short defence or the opponents have a large number of tall players then I can see the necessity but all of our central defenders are tall and we should RARELY be beaten by a high ball.
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 24, 2021 11:18:07 GMT
The sooner he's back the sooner we stop conceding soft goals. Looking at last night I'd back Anssi to save it. Looking back at goals like Charlton at home (straight from a corner) I'd fancy us to be a fair few points better off.
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Post by tanned on Feb 24, 2021 11:42:53 GMT
Why do the new breed of keepers stay on their line so much. A few years ago keepers would dominate the 6 yard box. They would go through defenders and attackers to claim it. Keepers these days are wearing out their goal line more than the linos on the touchline.
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Post by chewbacca on Feb 24, 2021 11:43:27 GMT
The sooner he's back the sooner we stop conceding soft goals. Looking at last night I'd back Anssi to save it. Looking back at goals like Charlton at home (straight from a corner) I'd fancy us to be a fair few points better off. He's a line keeper though, set plays generally have been what have let him down...
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Post by Baxtinho on Feb 24, 2021 11:58:07 GMT
Anybody know when Anssi is due back do we ever need him the defence lacks confidence with Day or JVS don’t rate either of them How our defence would have the temerity to not have confidence in a goalkeeper is beyond me. You could put some marigolds on a badger and it would still have a higher ability level than our defence. I'd back the badger to dominate it's area as well as AJ does, might not be as good at dealing with crosses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 12:00:18 GMT
When we signed Day I thought he was a more than adequate stand in for Anssi but we certainly have missed Anssi.
Anssi's absence has probably cost us points. I thought Day would have better command of his 6 yard box but clearly although a sound line keeper he does not command his box or organise the defense as well as I expected.
Not sure how long it will be for Anssi to return or whether the injury will have longer term impact on his performance. But I certainly hope he's back soon.
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Post by henry on Feb 24, 2021 12:13:31 GMT
IMO it’s the other way round, I don’t think I have ever witnessed such a shambolic, disorganised defence who can’t do the basics which Barton and Tisdale have alluded to. There are too many weak links in the defender department in that squad to find an adequate and consistent back four.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 12:25:18 GMT
IMO it’s the other way round, I don’t think I have ever witnessed such a shambolic, disorganised defence who can’t do the basics which Barton and Tisdale have alluded to. There are too many weak links in the defender department in that squad to find an adequate and consistent back four. Some truth in what you say. But you need a player who can organise particularly when defending set pieces. I though Max Ehmer was brought in to provide that sort of leadership needed to help younger defenders. Such a disappointment and does not seem happy or confident at the club. I would be surprised if he's here next season.
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Jaakkola
Feb 24, 2021 12:54:02 GMT
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 24, 2021 12:54:02 GMT
I think it's fair to say that we're missing Jaakola big time.
Is it any coincidence that our terrible run has coincided with him being out injured?
Since he's been injured we've played 16 games and only won twice and lost 11.
Having confidence in your Goalkeeper is huge and is a massive factor.
Even the best teams need it, look at Chelsea since they replaced Kepa with Mendy, they were conceding loads of goals with Kepa, a bit like us with Set Pieces and every time the opposition took a shot it seemed to go in.
That's what's happening with us now.
Day had a great game against Pompey, but he hasn't covered himself in glory apart from that since he came in, which is a surprise considering he's got over 300 games under his belt.
May as well had stuck with JVS.
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 24, 2021 13:50:29 GMT
Why do the new breed of keepers stay on their line so much. A few years ago keepers would dominate the 6 yard box. They would go through defenders and attackers to claim it. Keepers these days are wearing out their goal line more than the linos on the touchline. perhaps we need a subbuteo keeper and have a guy behind the net.may work
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Post by singupgas on Feb 24, 2021 14:02:57 GMT
I don't buy into the defenders not having confidence in the keeper in our case, we are broken down and beaten on set pieces with ease.. if the oppo get past our defenders and stick it past the gk cant blame the gk unless it was an easy save to make. I hope JB and the coach can sort the rabble out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 14:08:49 GMT
Any team would miss a keeper of Anssi’s quality but Day has been quite good overall bearing in mind he’s playing in front of a shambolic defensive unit. The criticism he’s received has been very unfair, he’s a million miles better than JVS and has made some great saves in recent games.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 24, 2021 14:22:02 GMT
Totally agree. Day is a good second string keeper. He's not as good as Anssi but few are in this league. However he is not a disaster and by and large has done ok. He's certainly better than JVS.
The problems reside in front of the goalkeeper. Whether we have 3, 4 or 5 at the back the end result is a shambles. Defenders who cannot defend, nobody taking responsibility, nobody showing leadership and every central defender displaying the speed and mobility of an ocean tanker.
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Post by theduke on Feb 24, 2021 17:38:43 GMT
Totally agree. Day is a good second string keeper. He's not as good as Anssi but few are in this league. However he is not a disaster and by and large has done ok. He's certainly better than JVS. The problems reside in front of the goalkeeper. Whether we have 3, 4 or 5 at the back the end result is a shambles. Defenders who cannot defend, nobody taking responsibility, nobody showing leadership and every central defender displaying the speed and mobility of an ocean tanker. This. He's been good enough, but not a long-term answer. JVS is a comedy goalkeeper, for me. You always run into these types in the lower divisions. Apparently somebody in recruitment thought they'd identified some kind of moneyball signing and JVS would go on to be sold for 4-5 million after a couple of years. Hopefully that person no longer works at the club.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 24, 2021 19:30:45 GMT
Day is much better than JVS. However, Jaakkola is much better than both of them.
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Post by lisbongas on Feb 24, 2021 19:57:56 GMT
How many times has Day been Motm compared to JVS? I am not a statician but I JVS seemed to be a good shot stopper that produced great saves but then punched too much and had dodgy positioning.
Disappointingly Day has not impressed and been average at best in most games. Shame we couldnt have got Blackman back from Chelsea.
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Jaakkola
Feb 26, 2021 12:44:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 12:44:48 GMT
Blackman has been on loan at Rotherham since the start of the season. After several dodgy performances he was dropped and has been on their bench in recent times.
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