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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 13:41:03 GMT
Ok... I heard JBs after match chat and I sense there will be a shake up on Tuesday - rightfully so.
But who would you pick .... Grant is out in this scenario but everyone else other than the longer term guys are available.
I started to pick a side but just couldn’t do it ... too much dross!
Defence will be better for Harries not being near it, he was woeful yesterday and I sense Leahy may be made to sit this one out as JB is rather watered with his errors. I just don’t see it being stronger with Ehmer in it but probably him and Baldwin as the two CBS.
McCormick will be available but I absolutely would not want Upson anywhere near the match day squad - Heaven knows what the midfield will look like .
MAYBE MCc - Westbrooke- Nicholson - Rodman ? In no particular order.
TWO UPFRONT A MUST - Go Ayunga and Daly FFS!!
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 7, 2021 13:43:03 GMT
Next games: 442 Day Williams Kilgour Baldwin Leahy Rodman McCormick Ledley(please) Nicholson Ayunga Daly
Obviously means bringing Ledley in. If not then probably Upson there, but I'm not sure he has enough about him
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 7, 2021 13:46:03 GMT
I would pick the 11 that started for Hull on Saturday. They seemed quite capable, and we could lend them 11 of ours. Simples.....
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Post by madgas on Mar 7, 2021 13:56:12 GMT
I like the 4 2 3 1. And would keep it. So...
Jakolla / Day
Little Ehmer Harries Tutonda
Upson McCormick
Rodman Nicholson Hanlon
Daly
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Post by yetigas on Mar 7, 2021 14:01:30 GMT
Day Williams Baldwin Harries Rodman McCormick Upson Nicholson Leahy Ayunga Daly
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 7, 2021 14:21:16 GMT
I like the 4 2 3 1. And would keep it. So... Jakolla / Day Little Ehmer Harries Tutonda Upson McCormick Rodman Nicholson Hanlon Daly Annsi has a set back in training last week and is at least a few weeks away.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 7, 2021 15:10:47 GMT
Like the OPI haven't the faintest idea on the starting eleven. The word dross sums up this lot. I know who I don't want in the team. Sadly that leaves me with about 3 players.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 7, 2021 15:17:18 GMT
Wilmslowgas, That is very disrespectful to the players in our club as there have been many good perfo9rmances in the last four games (under Barton) to restrict the chances to the opposition to very few and yet have a lot of shots ourselves. Our problems yesterday were down to Leahy and Kilgour. Take them out of our team defensively and we might get some decent results. Going to two up top Ayunga and Hanlon may also increase our chances.
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Post by kampucheagas on Mar 7, 2021 15:33:54 GMT
I’ve a feeling Barton may well shake things up
The players consistently picked have under-performed or are carrying knocks. Time for a re-think?
Day Hare Baldwin Kilgour Leahy
Rodders McCormick Liddle Walker
Ayunga Daly
Our options in midfield are now worryingly thin, maybe just go youth and legs and see what happens?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 15:36:59 GMT
Wilmslowgas, That is very disrespectful to the players in our club as there have been many good perfo9rmances in the last four games (under Barton) to restrict the chances to the opposition to very few and yet have a lot of shots ourselves. Our problems yesterday were down to Leahy and Kilgour. Take them out of our team defensively and we might get some decent results. Going to two up top Ayunga and Hanlon may also increase our chances. Harries seems to get more than his fair share of stick for defensive mistakes and yet again it was Kilgour and Leahy the main offenders. What Kilgour was up to for their second goal, only he can know. Came flying across from the centre to a high ball down the left channel that Harries was set to deal with, knocks him out the way and gifts the winger a free run down the left. Likewise Leahy's schoolboy error in trying to shield a ball that was never going out of play was very poor judgement at best. Thought Harries dealt very well with a number of hospital passes from Kilgour all game and is far more comfortable on the ball when under pressure than Kilgour ever is.
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 7, 2021 15:37:06 GMT
Next games: 442 Day Williams Kilgour Baldwin Leahy Rodman McCormick Ledley(please) Nicholson Ayunga Daly Obviously means bringing Ledley in. If not then probably Upson there, but I'm not sure he has enough about him Ledley has been told he has no future at the club?
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Post by barumgas on Mar 7, 2021 15:37:21 GMT
Going on Bartons after match interview he might well start Walker. He also was pleased with Upson which surprised me but he is the gaffer and must have seen forward passes from him which I missed. If he plays Westbrook dont let him take the free kicks but let McCormack take them. Hamlon needs a rest and that leaves us with Ayunga to play alongside Daly. Rodman is another must start as he has been playing well. As for the defence is there an answer. They didn't perform too badly yesterday against a promotion side apart from the odd mistakes which cost us the game. The coaches have got their work cut out to eliminate these problems and with the hectic schedule this is probably not possible. Loose the next 2 games and we are in deep sh*t
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Post by wilmslowgas on Mar 7, 2021 15:40:05 GMT
Wilmslowgas, That is very disrespectful to the players in our club as there have been many good perfo9rmances in the last four games (under Barton) to restrict the chances to the opposition to very few and yet have a lot of shots ourselves. Our problems yesterday were down to Leahy and Kilgour. Take them out of our team defensively and we might get some decent results. Going to two up top Ayunga and Hanlon may also increase our chances. It's not my intention to be disrespectful to the players. I just think some of them are poor and most of the rest are playing poorly. The net outcome is despite the efforts of three very different managers we find ourselves in the relegation zone. By any definition that is poor.
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 7, 2021 16:11:21 GMT
Next games: 442 Day Williams Kilgour Baldwin Leahy Rodman McCormick Ledley(please) Nicholson Ayunga Daly Obviously means bringing Ledley in. If not then probably Upson there, but I'm not sure he has enough about him Ledley has been told he has no future at the club? He has, but imho that decision should be reversed. An experienced and technically good player in the middle is just what we need to take pressure of our defence. Youngsters running around lots are fine, but we need one in there that can dictate play without having to run and run and run. After he played in the reserves game v Bournemouth last week didn't one of the other players say they had never played alongside anyone as good?
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 7, 2021 16:14:17 GMT
Wilmslowgas, That is very disrespectful to the players in our club as there have been many good perfo9rmances in the last four games (under Barton) to restrict the chances to the opposition to very few and yet have a lot of shots ourselves. Our problems yesterday were down to Leahy and Kilgour. Take them out of our team defensively and we might get some decent results. Going to two up top Ayunga and Hanlon may also increase our chances. It's not my intention to be disrespectful to the players. I just think some of them are poor and most of the rest are playing poorly. The net outcome is despite the efforts of three very different managers we find ourselves in the relegation zone. By any definition that is poor. But take Craig and JCH out of GC's team and they'd probably be just as bad, it's not the players fault Garner went for quantity, with kids, rather than quality, with experienced pros. I do wonder if JB's just trying to frighten the likes of Leahy, as unless he risks the likes of Tutonda it's hard to see where changes can be made other than dropping Kilgour or Harries, but Baldwin's usually good for a mistake when he starts anyway. Hopefully Ayunga gets a start, if not, he must be wondering what he's got to do to start a game. What's happened to Oztumer, is he really any worse than the present CM's even if he's not 100% fit/possibly out of favour?
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Post by patchwaypirate on Mar 7, 2021 16:26:24 GMT
I would go 4-3-3. Day, Williams, Harries, Baldwin, Leahy, Westbrook, McCormick, Upson, Ayunga, Nicholson, Rodman. I think Leahy plays better when he is captain.
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Post by kentgas on Mar 7, 2021 16:40:33 GMT
Ledley has been told he has no future at the club? He has, but imho that decision should be reversed. An experienced and technically good player in the middle is just what we need to take pressure of our defence. Youngsters running around lots are fine, but we need one in there that can dictate play without having to run and run and run. After he played in the reserves game v Bournemouth last week didn't one of the other players say they had never played alongside anyone as good? A fit Ledley I would agree would be an asset but it sounds as if he is a long way off match fitness according to JB. “My opinion is he needs a pre-season,” Gas boss Barton said. “He’s missed a lot of time, coming out of Australia before the pandemic and at his age you need to be training every day. “I know from my experience of getting north of 30, it’s a different way of training to when you’re a young whippersnapper.
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 7, 2021 17:01:53 GMT
Ledley has been told he has no future at the club? He has, but imho that decision should be reversed. An experienced and technically good player in the middle is just what we need to take pressure of our defence. Youngsters running around lots are fine, but we need one in there that can dictate play without having to run and run and run. After he played in the reserves game v Bournemouth last week didn't one of the other players say they had never played alongside anyone as good? But If he’s not fit enough, he’s no use to us? We need a player 100% match fit. We’re not in a position to be carrying a player who’s not fit. Had he been ready, I would definitely have had him in 👍🏽
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 7, 2021 17:15:53 GMT
If Hanlan starts then I'd definitely say 2 up top is a must, however if Ayunga plays I think we can go 4231 or 433 as the ball seems to stick better. Some of the criticism of Kilgour and Leahy has been massively over the top let's be honest we've not looked secure defensively all season regardless of whose played or whether we've gone with a 3 or 4. For Tues I genuinely have no idea which way I'd go, imo definite starters would be Day, Williams, McCormick, Rodman and Ayunga, you could make a case for leaving out any of the rest either through form or fitness.
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Post by richard on Mar 7, 2021 17:18:28 GMT
I think i'd go with the following in a 4-2-3-1 sort of formation although I wouldn't be against the same players in a 4-3-1-2.
Day
Williams Baldwin Harries Leahy
McCormick Rodman
Westbrooke
Nicholson Ayunga Hanlan
Feel Hanlan may be a bit better when not expected to hold the ball in the middle. Rodman did ok whilst playing in the middle against Hull and has more legs than Upson.
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