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Post by warehamgas on Mar 7, 2021 22:23:16 GMT
I didn’t particularly want JB as manager but he is our manager and we now get behind him. After two weeks and 4 games Ive seen better performances which if you add the two TW games I’d say the following: ....we’ve looked better defensively and balls into the area don’t frighten me as much as they did. We are dealing with them and getting better. ....we’ve still not cut out the individual errors, Leahy yesterday and we need to do that. .... we’ve looked a better set up and more threatening but the problem remains it’s so obvious. .... we need wins and suddenly this week with two winnable games looks absolutely crucial to whether we survive or not. I feel more confident about getting those wins with JB there than with our previous two managers. But time will tell. UTG!
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Post by aghast on Mar 7, 2021 22:30:59 GMT
I would actually say at the moment that Barton has a better chance of winning his case than we have of staying up so I hope that whatever he is our Manager next season. I would go as far on the case to say it should have been sorted outside of Court as it "takes two to Tango" and I do0n't imagine that the opposing Manager had just "done nothing". He obviously done something to stir Joey up and wasn't big enough to take the reaction. Would you be saying that of he was still the manager of Fleetwood and not Rovers? The video evidence will say one way or another who was wronged but one day Barton will hopefully be put on his arse good and proper then he may well just reign himself in. www.facebook.com/918887894803184/videos/999943530030953
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Post by biggles on Mar 7, 2021 22:42:53 GMT
we all love this club! at the start of this season most of us thought top 6 is it the players or was it the management,what went wrong its the 10000 dollar question managers came and went in the quest to keep us in div1 i think we will get relegated,but i also believe that jb with all his skill and knowledge will create a team worthy of the gas and supporters going down will make the board of brfc realise the stupidity of giving the managers job to a novice, even though he was a nice chap! so the best thing to do and everyone get behind jb accrington stanley who are they come on the gas show them who we are!!!!
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Post by graceyboy on Mar 8, 2021 0:06:45 GMT
Results have still been poor ut that's no surprise as the players in our squad are truly awful. At least he's been positive and praised them which must have been tough, to try and build their confidence as he can't do anything with their talent or lack of.
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Post by pirate on Mar 8, 2021 0:33:10 GMT
we all love this club! at the start of this season most of us thought top 6 is it the players or was it the management,what went wrong its the 10000 dollar question managers came and went in the quest to keep us in div1 i think we will get relegated,but i also believe that jb with all his skill and knowledge will create a team worthy of the gas and supporters going down will make the board of brfc realise the stupidity of giving the managers job to a novice, even though he was a nice chap! so the best thing to do and everyone get behind jb accrington stanley who are they come on the gas show them who we are!!!! Top 6? Lol. I'm shocked I predicted us to finish as high as 16th. Far too optimistic.
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Post by socrates on Mar 8, 2021 0:36:18 GMT
He’s said the right things and the players are trying but I feel he’s making the same mistake that Garner and to more extent Tisdale made in that he’s playing 352-343 , whatever you want to call it with Nicholson ( possibly our best player) in the middle. This squad needs to be 442 or 4231 get Nicholson our wider to give us some pace and width. Tutonda also has pace and skill and plays wide. The things we lack with the ball are pace and width. Hopefully Barton can sort this because if we stick with what we’ve been doing all season then we’re down.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 8, 2021 0:39:36 GMT
graceyboy, You are talking ridiculous when you say the players are truly awful. There are plenty of players in the squad who are more than good enough for a top ten team individually and in the last 4 games under Barton we have created loads of chances so can't be that bad. Even defensively we are very good for long periods of the game and have only been let down by individual lapses and mainly by two players Kilgour and Leahy and ofr course the most relevant thing was neither Garner or Tisdale replaced JCH. I think you will find that most of these players will become good players over the next two years and possibly next season with us.
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Post by socrates on Mar 8, 2021 0:47:12 GMT
we all love this club! at the start of this season most of us thought top 6 is it the players or was it the management,what went wrong its the 10000 dollar question managers came and went in the quest to keep us in div1 i think we will get relegated,but i also believe that jb with all his skill and knowledge will create a team worthy of the gas and supporters going down will make the board of brfc realise the stupidity of giving the managers job to a novice, even though he was a nice chap! so the best thing to do and everyone get behind jb accrington stanley who are they come on the gas show them who we are!!!! Top 6 ? I thought we’d struggle , finally sack Garner and then who knows. I’m afraid I was right. We’re still in it anyway but have to go on a run now or we’re down.
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Post by graceyboy on Mar 8, 2021 1:07:13 GMT
graceyboy, You are talking ridiculous when you say the players are truly awful. There are plenty of players in the squad who are more than good enough for a top ten team individually and in the last 4 games under Barton we have created loads of chances so can't be that bad. Even defensively we are very good for long periods of the game and have only been let down by individual lapses and mainly by two players Kilgour and Leahy and ofr course the most relevant thing was neither Garner or Tisdale replaced JCH. I think you will find that most of these players will become good players over the next two years and possibly next season with us. Steve, I disagree. Our gks apart from anssi are awful. We have the worst bunch of defenders I have seen in the last 30 years at this club, we have westbroke who has been a waste of a wage, we have an overweight barrett who hasn't played and appears to have no desire to play a la bennett and hanlan who has no goalscoring instincts or striking ability at all. That is the stark reality of our squad. To blame two players for us being in the relegation zone is mind boggling. Collectively, the garner signings are not of the required standard. Leahy, who you criticise, has been one of the better ones. We don't score goals... So we don't win matches... So we end up in the relegation zone. Simple. The men to blame are garner and Widdrington for putting together this extremely poor squad.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 8, 2021 1:16:49 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion but Barratt is injured rather than not wanting to play.Hanlon has scored goals this season so to say he has no scoring ability is nonsence. You can say he cant play up front on his own but remember him and Nicholson are playing through injuries. Nicholson is one of the most talented players we have had in recent years.Westbrooke played well in the last couple of games though I would share the free kicks. I have not blamed two players for us being in the relegation zone but the majority of goals conceded has been down to their errors.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 8, 2021 7:20:22 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion but Barratt is injured rather than not wanting to play.Hanlon has scored goals this season so to say he has no scoring ability is nonsence. You can say he cant play up front on his own but remember him and Nicholson are playing through injuries. Nicholson is one of the most talented players we have had in recent years.Westbrooke played well in the last couple of games though I would share the free kicks. I have not blamed two players for us being in the relegation zone but the majority of goals conceded has been down to their errors. You really dont like Kilgour do you Steve ? I'm not going to pretend he hasn't made mistakes but to claim the majority of goals have been down to him & Leahy is complete nonsense. Harries was just as culpable for the 2nd goal on Sat, JB brought on Baldwin who came off ??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 8:31:26 GMT
You are entitled to your opinion but Barratt is injured rather than not wanting to play.Hanlon has scored goals this season so to say he has no scoring ability is nonsence. You can say he cant play up front on his own but remember him and Nicholson are playing through injuries. Nicholson is one of the most talented players we have had in recent years.Westbrooke played well in the last couple of games though I would share the free kicks. I have not blamed two players for us being in the relegation zone but the majority of goals conceded has been down to their errors. You really dont like Kilgour do you Steve ? I'm not going to pretend he hasn't made mistakes but to claim the majority of goals have been down to him & Leahy is complete nonsense. Harries was just as culpable for the 2nd goal on Sat, JB brought on Baldwin who came off ?? Rubbish, the ball was played down our left channel towards their player and Harries who was going to deal with it. From the centre Kilgour came across out of sight of Harries and careered into him, hence taking two of our back line out and leaving us wide open. The substitution was nothing to do with that and if you honestly saw the game Harries was far better than Kilgour in all ways. Steve K is right, Leahy and Kilgour have been responsible for a lot of goals recently, that cannot be denied.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 8, 2021 10:37:03 GMT
I like Kilgour for about 80 minutes of most games and the same for Leahy.Unfortunately a game of football is 90 minutes and in any total of ten minutes the pair of them switch off and do ridiculous things. I can't see any answer4 but dropping the -p0air of them as it is most weeks. It also worries me that Kilgour and Ehmer were tore apart at Accrington where they were each to blame for all the goals. To blame the second goal on anybody apart from Kilgour is ridiculous. He totally left his position for no reason whatsoever other than another reckless challenge.He took Harries out as well as totally mistiming his jump and their player went clean through into the area that Kilgour should have been covering. It was shocking.
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on Mar 8, 2021 10:55:18 GMT
Kilgore was trying to win the ball high up the pitch, sadly people will blame him for it but it was near the halfway line? Where were the covering players? There was much to do to score from that position. You defend as a team and that goal resulted from a few errors from different players.
The first goal wouldn't of happened if grant was still on the pitch. Leahy I think should of seen the ball out but didn't.... But the real mistake was no one marking grants man. Bit unlucky really but they saw an opportunity and took it.
We are seeing another system under JB, its not working away from home but the shrews game was good. Maybe we will win more home games from now on.
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 8, 2021 11:12:28 GMT
we all love this club! at the start of this season most of us thought top 6 is it the players or was it the management,what went wrong its the 10000 dollar question managers came and went in the quest to keep us in div1 i think we will get relegated,but i also believe that jb with all his skill and knowledge will create a team worthy of the gas and supporters going down will make the board of brfc realise the stupidity of giving the managers job to a novice, even though he was a nice chap! so the best thing to do and everyone get behind jb accrington stanley who are they come on the gas show them who we are!!!! Top 6?? Not a chance, but I was pretty positive about mid table.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 8, 2021 13:45:19 GMT
I like Kilgour for about 80 minutes of most games and the same for Leahy.Unfortunately a game of football is 90 minutes and in any total of ten minutes the pair of them switch off and do ridiculous things. I can't see any answer4 but dropping the -p0air of them as it is most weeks. It also worries me that Kilgour and Ehmer were tore apart at Accrington where they were each to blame for all the goals. To blame the second goal on anybody apart from Kilgour is ridiculous. He totally left his position for no reason whatsoever other than another reckless challenge.He took Harries out as well as totally mistiming his jump and their player went clean through into the area that Kilgour should have been covering. It was shocking. The 80 mins reference is fair enough, however I don't think its just Leahy and Kilgour that fall into that category. Ehmer, Baldwin and Harries have all done the very same things at different times. The 2nd goal Sat Kilgour probably should have dropped off but why wasn't Harries communicating, I was always taught as a defender if you're attacking the ball you make sure your fellow defenders know you are. I think that was the point Barton was making, obviously we don't know if Harries called or not but these are the things we seem to see regularly from pretty much all our defenders. I certainly don't envy Barton trying to pick a defensive line up from the options he has, I'm not sure there's a combination we haven't tried yet !!!
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 8, 2021 14:17:45 GMT
I like Kilgour for about 80 minutes of most games and the same for Leahy.Unfortunately a game of football is 90 minutes and in any total of ten minutes the pair of them switch off and do ridiculous things. I can't see any answer4 but dropping the -p0air of them as it is most weeks. It also worries me that Kilgour and Ehmer were tore apart at Accrington where they were each to blame for all the goals. To blame the second goal on anybody apart from Kilgour is ridiculous. He totally left his position for no reason whatsoever other than another reckless challenge.He took Harries out as well as totally mistiming his jump and their player went clean through into the area that Kilgour should have been covering. It was shocking. Nothing to do with Leahy giving the ball away cheaply then being an acre out of position, giving the hull attacker an easy route towards goal. Kilgour has shown he is 10 times the defender Harries is; your irrational dislike of any player that has progressed through our academy is baffling!
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Post by bobbyjones on Mar 8, 2021 14:24:08 GMT
I was against Barton, but the poor sod can only pick the team with the players hes got, and they are not good enough.
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 8, 2021 15:36:18 GMT
Worrellsterlingalbion, How could Harries communicate to Kilgour who was behind him. It was a straightforward ball for Harries to go for when Kilgour went straight into the back of him. All kilgour had to do was stick to his position and cover IF Harries did not win the ball. As it was both players were taken out and Hull had a free run at goal. Kilgour should have been the last man and this is a big problem. I have no dislike of players who come through our Academy if they are good enough and this season Kilgour has not been good enough. He is not ten times better than our other defenders and is at the very best on par. Certainly under Barton Harries has proved to be the better player recently which has surprised me as well.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 8, 2021 18:04:04 GMT
Worrellsterlingalbion, How could Harries communicate to Kilgour who was behind him. It was a straightforward ball for Harries to go for when Kilgour went straight into the back of him. All kilgour had to do was stick to his position and cover IF Harries did not win the ball. As it was both players were taken out and Hull had a free run at goal. Kilgour should have been the last man and this is a big problem. I have no dislike of players who come through our Academy if they are good enough and this season Kilgour has not been good enough. He is not ten times better than our other defenders and is at the very best on par. Certainly under Barton Harries has proved to be the better player recently which has surprised me as well. Where have I said he's 10 times better than any of the others ? Think you might have me mixed up with someone else.
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