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Post by bobbyjones on Mar 21, 2021 18:03:33 GMT
The only thing he will shed will be tears
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Post by lpgas1 on Mar 21, 2021 18:22:07 GMT
To be honest Bennett is no worse that half this squad
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Post by RD on Mar 21, 2021 20:05:10 GMT
I'd just Furlough them all, pack our bags and start planning for our inevitable campaign in League Two next season.
That's the most positive response I can muster.
We are a complete shower of sh*t.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 14:06:53 GMT
JB said today "Don’t forget I’ve known Max from when I was at QPR. He was training with us when he was 20 and the observations of him then haven’t changed much to the observations of the player I’ve found now.
"That is worrying in that period of time, seven, eight or nine years, if you’re still making the same mistakes.
"I think you can only help yourself. He can only help himself first and foremost before you can help any of your teammates."
"Captain when we came in, and I just don’t understand that," Barton said.
"How can that be the leader, the person you set out as the head of your organisation, as the head of your troops?
"He’s got a lot of work to do, the boy. We’ve got to build him back up and it’s not straightforward, and, as I say, I can only help people who want to help themselves.
"We’ve got no time for passengers, and as cruel as that may seem, unfortunately this is not a charity. This is an elite performing environment that is not elite performing at this moment in time and it’s my job to get it there, because I’m a custodian of the building.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2021 14:12:38 GMT
Brutal!
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Post by percy on Mar 22, 2021 14:15:42 GMT
JB said today "Don’t forget I’ve known Max from when I was at QPR. He was training with us when he was 20 and the observations of him then haven’t changed much to the observations of the player I’ve found now. "That is worrying in that period of time, seven, eight or nine years, if you’re still making the same mistakes. "I think you can only help yourself. He can only help himself first and foremost before you can help any of your teammates." "Captain when we came in, and I just don’t understand that," Barton said. "How can that be the leader, the person you set out as the head of your organisation, as the head of your troops? "He’s got a lot of work to do, the boy. We’ve got to build him back up and it’s not straightforward, and, as I say, I can only help people who want to help themselves. "We’ve got no time for passengers, and as cruel as that may seem, unfortunately this is not a charity. This is an elite performing environment that is not elite performing at this moment in time and it’s my job to get it there, because I’m a custodian of the building. This worries me a bit, and was my concern with JB coming in. Will he let his emotions get the better of him. Ehmer needs to be dropped, but not sure a public slagging off is going to improve the mood in the camp. Will see if there's a response or not I guess. |
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Post by richard on Mar 22, 2021 14:15:59 GMT
I'm not sure i've ever seen such a frank assessment of one of our players by any manager.
It will be interesting to see whether the players come out on the side of the manager or Ehmer in their performances.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Mar 22, 2021 14:21:52 GMT
I'm not sure i've ever seen such a frank assessment of one of our players by any manager. It will be interesting to see whether the players come out on the side of the manager or Ehmer in their performances. If they down tools for Barton then I would imagine they wont be at the club much longer. We have to see this through now and stick with JB and build ourselves up. I'm sure there will be plenty of players that will come and play for him so if the current squad don't then show them the door. I'm all for the public slagging of Ehmer he has been awful this season and needs a rocket up his ass or transfer listed. If that dosent fire a few up then they can follow as well. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Mar 22, 2021 14:30:13 GMT
Brutal from Barton. But he’s absolutely right.
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Post by lavalamp on Mar 22, 2021 14:39:53 GMT
People hating on Joey, then just imagine the absolute pelters the players would be getting from the fans (if we were allowed in the ground)
Tbh I think Ehmer has got off lightly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 14:40:39 GMT
I'm not sure i've ever seen such a frank assessment of one of our players by any manager. It will be interesting to see whether the players come out on the side of the manager or Ehmer in their performances. If they down tools for Barton then I would imagine they wont be at the club much longer. We have to see this through now and stick with JB and build ourselves up. I'm sure there will be plenty of players that will come and play for him so if the current squad don't then show them the door. I'm all for the public slagging of Ehmer he has been awful this season and needs a rocket up his ass or transfer listed. If that dosent fire a few up then they can follow as well. Yep, high risk strategy but guess JB feels that after Saturday's performance there is not much to loose by taking the risk. He's had the weekend to ponder and so not said spur of the moment comments. Guess Max will be training with the development squad for the time being? |
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 22, 2021 14:41:17 GMT
Brutal from Barton. But he’s absolutely right. spot on .saying it to his face. No different if crowds were in the ground we would let ehmer have both barrels after a few games.needed saying and may be a bad apple in the bunch.will be no loss never to see him live in the quarters again |
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Post by Jomo on Mar 22, 2021 14:43:18 GMT
That is the most scathing public attack on a player I remember ever seeing from a manager of ours. I do agree with his assessment, but I don't think I agree with him coming out in public with it, it's certainly not the way I would manage. It's fine to think it and to say it to their face in private as to why they've been dropped, but airing it in public is only going to vilify him even more with the fans, and humiliate the player, which is totally unnecessary in my view. Not to mention it is a slight worry that he didn't get on with Max during their QPR days, and that he's carrying an adverse opinion of him because of that. I mean, Ehmer clearly did well at Gillingham and was their captain, so whatever is going on now needs to be eradicated without slamming his character in public. First thing I've seen from Barton so far that has worried me a bit.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 22, 2021 14:49:56 GMT
That is the most scathing public attack on a player I remember ever seeing from a manager of ours. I do agree with his assessment, but I don't think I agree with him coming out in public with it, it's certainly not the way I would manage. It's fine to think it and to say it to their face in private as to why they've been dropped, but airing it in public is only going to vilify him even more with the fans, and humiliate the player, which is totally unnecessary in my view. Not to mention it is a slight worry that he didn't get on with Max during their QPR days, and that he's carrying an adverse opinion of him because of that. I mean, Ehmer clearly did well at Gillingham and was their captain, so whatever is going on now needs to be eradicated without slamming his character in public. First thing I've seen from Barton so far that has worried me a bit. I agree to an extent but he’s had the weekend to think about what he’s saying in this press conference this morning so there’s no doubt it is a highly calculated move. High risk, as has been mentioned. Ehmer was voted captain by the other players. so was clearly a popular choice. By the way, what an amateurish way to select the captain of the club! Barton is trying to get some passion into the players, even if they end up hating him for a bit, and who knows, it might just work. From his point of view three managers have tried a lot of methods that haven’t worked so he probably feels he needs to get a bit unconventional. I do feel for Ehmer. It’s going to be extremely hard to come back from that whilst he’s with us. |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Mar 22, 2021 14:51:57 GMT
JB said today "Don’t forget I’ve known Max from when I was at QPR. He was training with us when he was 20 and the observations of him then haven’t changed much to the observations of the player I’ve found now. "That is worrying in that period of time, seven, eight or nine years, if you’re still making the same mistakes. "I think you can only help yourself. He can only help himself first and foremost before you can help any of your teammates." "Captain when we came in, and I just don’t understand that," Barton said. "How can that be the leader, the person you set out as the head of your organisation, as the head of your troops? "He’s got a lot of work to do, the boy. We’ve got to build him back up and it’s not straightforward, and, as I say, I can only help people who want to help themselves. "We’ve got no time for passengers, and as cruel as that may seem, unfortunately this is not a charity. This is an elite performing environment that is not elite performing at this moment in time and it’s my job to get it there, because I’m a custodian of the building. This worries me a bit, and was my concern with JB coming in. Will he let his emotions get the better of him. Ehmer needs to be dropped, but not sure a public slagging off is going to improve the mood in the camp. Will see if there's a response or not I guess. Depends what the players' opinion of Ehmer is, I guess. JB isn't wrong with his assessment and it didn't take long for the majority of fans to see he is not captain material and subsequently not starting material. I'm not sure the public slating is necessary, and don't think there's any way back for Ehmer now, but he has been a massive disappointment. The defence as a whole has been abysmal (bar a few games) and there is no excuse for half hearted tackles and blocks. Plymouth showed us how to defend when under the cosh on Saturday and that was the major difference between the two sides. Players were literally throwing themselves in front of everything! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2021 14:52:26 GMT
That is the most scathing public attack on a player I remember ever seeing from a manager of ours. I do agree with his assessment, but I don't think I agree with him coming out in public with it, it's certainly not the way I would manage. It's fine to think it and to say it to their face in private as to why they've been dropped, but airing it in public is only going to vilify him even more with the fans, and humiliate the player, which is totally unnecessary in my view. Not to mention it is a slight worry that he didn't get on with Max during their QPR days, and that he's carrying an adverse opinion of him because of that. I mean, Ehmer clearly did well at Gillingham and was their captain, so whatever is going on now needs to be eradicated without slamming his character in public. First thing I've seen from Barton so far that has worried me a bit. Maybe he's tried all that? I agree with the not doing dirty washing in public principle. It came back to bite DC on the behind with Mildenhall. Some things need to be said, and whilst I kinda agree with your post, I'm actually warming to it, because JAB appears to care, it shows integrity. And it shows that he's trying to be pro active in sorting out problems, at least he's given players opportunity. |
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Post by alanrg on Mar 22, 2021 14:54:28 GMT
I back the manager on this about time certain players had a good kick up the backside the softly softly approach obviously has not worked it’s time to try something different
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 22, 2021 14:56:55 GMT
I back the manager on this about time certain players had a good kick up the backside the softly softly approach obviously has not worked it’s time to try something different Yes, the more think about it, the more I agree. It's been one whole calendar month since JAB arrival (Feb 22nd). He's obviously set his mark in the sand with expectation levels and what he says is correct. |
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 22, 2021 15:02:43 GMT
The only player who can hold his head up high this season is the current skipper. He at least shows commitment to the cause every game.will be a in demand left back in pre season because of the goals he has scored he will not be short of offers.is he out of contract this season?
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Post by alanrg on Mar 22, 2021 15:07:55 GMT
Leahy is out contract in the summer
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