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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 26, 2021 13:24:05 GMT
Not being funny, but they've spent a day watching how Franco Baresi and Serio Ramos defend? Is he having a laugh? FFS. I'd be happy enough with Ehmer et al even defending to a standard of Cian Bolger or Adam Virgo - watching videos of Franco Baresi or Serio Ramos FFS? Is he for real? What a total f**king waste of time. Genius , you’ve made my day , top post 😂😂😂
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Post by peterparker on Mar 26, 2021 13:25:35 GMT
Not being funny, but they've spent a day watching how Franco Baresi and Serio Ramos defend? Is he having a laugh? FFS. I'd be happy enough with Ehmer et al even defending to a standard of Cian Bolger or Adam Virgo - watching videos of Franco Baresi or Serio Ramos FFS? Is he for real? What a total f**king waste of time. what the f**k. Just start with telling them to kick someone now again
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Post by strads1983 on Mar 26, 2021 13:26:29 GMT
God what a f**king awful presser. Sure the love-in will continue but I've heard enough. Keep your mouth shut Joey and just do your job and pick up some points FFS. It’s refreshing to hear a manager tell it how it is instead of listening to a load of cliche driven bullshit interviews.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 26, 2021 13:28:53 GMT
What do people expect Barton to do exactly?
Garner started this all of by buying inferior tools to the ones that were already here and discarded the old. Tisdale had a month to rectify the errors made by Garner but was seemingly busy checking out the latest Ted Baker Loafers and Harrington Jackets to bring in any players. Barton is now left with a bunch of broken tools bought by his predecessors that are not fit for purpose.
He hardly has any worthwhile time on the training ground due to the conditioning needed pre and post games.
Now i'm not for one moment saying Barton is the answer, but he sure as sh** isnt the problem.
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Post by axegas on Mar 26, 2021 13:28:56 GMT
God what a f**king awful presser. Sure the love-in will continue but I've heard enough. Keep your mouth shut Joey and just do your job and pick up some points FFS. It’s refreshing to hear a manager tell it how it is instead of listening to a load of cliche driven bullshit interviews. Have you not heard all the meaningless analogies Barton likes to throw in? “Dust ourselves down” “Climbing Mount Everest” etc It’s like cliche 101.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 13:31:15 GMT
Whilst I don’t disagree with a lot of what he’s saying his remit is to keep this club in league one, so far he is failing miserably at that.
Less talking like a self loathing fan and more galvanising the club to win games and survive would be better for me.
I’ve seen people compare him to DC and I think that’s wide of the mark.
DC took over with 8 games to go, didn’t slag off John ward and took full responsibility for relegation. He also had 2 promotions in the bank before he started shouting his mouth off like this.
I think we need to be careful that we don’t give JB god like status before he’s even remotely achieved anything with us.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Mar 26, 2021 13:35:04 GMT
Again, its a decent soundbite, but what is the substance? Really wish the interviewer had asked him what exactly it was that made Garner/Tisdale negligent? JB seemed happy enough to talk about it. My read of it was that JB didn't think they had psychologically prepared the players well enough but others may interpret those comments differently
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 26, 2021 13:39:55 GMT
I mean if there was such a big problem with the coaching practices, surely Joey has had enough time to turn them around given he’s been in the job for a fair while now? Also with Tisdale’s years of experience and success of as a professional manager, find it hard to believe that his coaching was negligent, Garner I can believe. Would like to hear less of these damning sound bites and see more action from Barton now, he’s got his point across. Just on the "...had enough time..." point you make bud I am not sure they have had much time in reality... Play Saturday - Off Sunday - In Monday (can't be a hard session as game Tuesday) - Play Tuesday - Off Wednesday - Full Training Thursday - In Friday (can't be a hard session as game Saturday): Repeat Based on the above and that he joined on 22nd Feb I make that 5 full training sessions and 9 part sessions It's not an awful lot of time to change mindset / push over your ideas and drill them into them so it's organic That being said I haven't been a coach, so no idea how short or long a time it takes. Apart from the lapses in concentration the team seem to playing a different style with a much higher press.
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Post by BS6 Gas on Mar 26, 2021 13:41:32 GMT
Like this, let’s hope we get a response tomorrow. He’s very motivated just needs to let the past go now and move forward. My Dad always says that Don Megson’s Rovers were the best he’s seen in his 70 odd years going to The Gas. They were fighters. If we can’t get these youngsters fighting for the chance to be playing Lge 1 football next season then they as players are severely devoid with ambition.
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Post by bluebiro on Mar 26, 2021 13:43:31 GMT
What do people expect Barton to do exactly? Garner started this all of by buying inferior tools to the ones that were already here and discarded the old. Tisdale had a month to rectify the errors made by Garner but was seemingly was busy checking out the latest Ted Baker Loafers and Harrington Jackets to bring in any players. Barton is now left with a bunch of broken tools bought by his predecessors that are not fit for purpose. He hardly has any worthwhile time on the training ground due to the conditioning needed pre and post games. Now i'm not for one moment saying Barton is the answer, but he sure as sh** isnt the problem. buy cheap buy twice
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 13:43:56 GMT
Not being funny, but they've spent a day watching how Franco Baresi and Serio Ramos defend? Is he having a laugh? FFS. I'd be happy enough with Ehmer et al even defending to a standard of Cian Bolger or Adam Virgo - watching videos of Franco Baresi or Serio Ramos FFS? Is he for real? What a total f**king waste of time. They'd be better off watching how Tony Craig organised things last season, or McChrystal, or Tillson did with pride in the shirt True , can’t argue with that ! Oh for those days , miss them ! Utg 💙
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Post by Jomo on Mar 26, 2021 13:45:01 GMT
He certainly has done his best in terms of deflecting any blame away from himself for the inevitable relegation. I can't quite believe how forthright he has been in his public scathing of players and former managers. Is he not potentially going to face legal consequences for slandering the work of Garner and Tisdale like that? It could have serious knock on effects to them getting future work. Regardless of whether what JB says is true, it's just not something that I feel should be said in the public domain. What good does it do, really? Will it help the team have a better chance of staying up?
Edit: I have been totally with JB up to last week, and I still support him, but I'm beginning to question his judgement and his rationale in these press conferences. It's just not professional to play press conferences out like it's your own autobiography.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 13:45:55 GMT
He certainly has done his best in terms of deflecting any blame away from himself for the inevitable relegation. I can't quite believe how forthright he has been in his public scathing of players and former managers. Is he not potentially going to face legal consequences for slandering the work of Garner and Tisdale like that? It could have serious knock on effects to them getting future work. Regardless of whether what JB says is true, it's just not something that I feel should be said in the public domain. What good does it do, really? Will it help the team have a better chance of staying up? He hasn't fooled everybody.
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Post by GasAttacK on Mar 26, 2021 13:47:58 GMT
Agree with much of what was said to be honest.
Not sure videos of Baresi and Ramos will be useful but maybe it helped back up things they've been working on in training.
It's pretty obvious there are lots of things that need to change. We're in the relegation zone with an unbalanced squad lacking in experience, leaders and goalscorers.
I'm not sure any manager could have kept us up particularly when you factor in the injuries and poor refereeing decisions we've had recently.
Whatever league we're in next season I'm more optimistic of brighter times ahead than I have been since it became clear the Garner experiment was going to fail.
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Post by axegas on Mar 26, 2021 13:49:10 GMT
I mean if there was such a big problem with the coaching practices, surely Joey has had enough time to turn them around given he’s been in the job for a fair while now? Also with Tisdale’s years of experience and success of as a professional manager, find it hard to believe that his coaching was negligent, Garner I can believe. Would like to hear less of these damning sound bites and see more action from Barton now, he’s got his point across. Just on the "...had enough time..." point you make bud I am not sure they have had much time in reality... Play Saturday - Off Sunday - In Monday (can't be a hard session as game Tuesday) - Play Tuesday - Off Wednesday - Full Training Thursday - In Friday (can't be a hard session as game Saturday): Repeat Based on the above and that he joined on 22nd Feb I make that 5 full training sessions and 9 part sessions It's not an awful lot of time to change mindset / push over your ideas and drill them into them so it's organic That being said I haven't been a coach, so no idea how short or long a time it takes. Apart from the lapses in concentration the team seem to playing a different style with a much higher press. I’m mainly referring to all these negligent practices he alleges have gone on under Tisdale/Garner. Five weeks on the grass is enough to completely change the coaching regime, install new ideas into the heads of the players and expect some kind of results from it. We’re talking about regular contact, regular exchange of ideas, regular drills, it’s not just training sessions where you can make an impact. He can’t change the makeup of the squad without a new transfer window, but was fully expecting all this tough training the players were on about in their interviews, to have had some kind of effect by now. If there hasn’t been enough time for a new manager to make a change by now, why did we sack Tisdale?
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Post by rosssgb on Mar 26, 2021 13:51:09 GMT
I mean if there was such a big problem with the coaching practices, surely Joey has had enough time to turn them around given he’s been in the job for a fair while now? Also with Tisdale’s years of experience and success of as a professional manager, find it hard to believe that his coaching was negligent, Garner I can believe. Would like to hear less of these damning sound bites and see more action from Barton now, he’s got his point across. Just on the "...had enough time..." point you make bud I am not sure they have had much time in reality... Play Saturday - Off Sunday - In Monday (can't be a hard session as game Tuesday) - Play Tuesday - Off Wednesday - Full Training Thursday - In Friday (can't be a hard session as game Saturday): Repeat Based on the above and that he joined on 22nd Feb I make that 5 full training sessions and 9 part sessions It's not an awful lot of time to change mindset / push over your ideas and drill them into them so it's organic That being said I haven't been a coach, so no idea how short or long a time it takes. Apart from the lapses in concentration the team seem to playing a different style with a much higher press. NO, don’t let truth get in the way of a good story!
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Post by garystash on Mar 26, 2021 13:51:18 GMT
Well, I think now, after a number of pressers like this, it's time to stop going on about it. We get it Joey, it's not your fault. Now stop slagging people off and just do the job you're here to do.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 13:54:52 GMT
Much easier said than done , obvs . Give him a chance ! Utg
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Post by TugPhase on Mar 26, 2021 13:57:29 GMT
An 8 and a half minute interview from two questions! Certainly likes to talk.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Mar 26, 2021 13:59:04 GMT
He certainly has done his best in terms of deflecting any blame away from himself for the inevitable relegation. I can't quite believe how forthright he has been in his public scathing of players and former managers. Is he not potentially going to face legal consequences for slandering the work of Garner and Tisdale like that? It could have serious knock on effects to them getting future work. Regardless of whether what JB says is true, it's just not something that I feel should be said in the public domain. What good does it do, really? Will it help the team have a better chance of staying up? Edit: I have been totally with JB up to last week, and I still support him, but I'm beginning to question his judgement and his rationale in these press conferences. It's just not professional to play press conferences out like it's your own autobiography. He hasn't named anyone so no legal can be taken it's an assumption on here that's who he is talking about. It could be Maher and Mesure for all we know. To be honest I'm not to bothered about what's being said in the interview because that's all it is an interview he could just say the obvious it's not my place to talk about what's gone on before line,but that's a touch boring. Will it have any effect on the team and help us stay in the league I very much doubt it but JB needs to try something different or we will just fall away quietly.
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