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Post by Jomo on Apr 4, 2021 11:24:42 GMT
Most the Gillingham fans on the league 1 page, said they were not sad to see him go. They said he struggled, unless he had some one doing a lot of the work for him and that they would rather lose him, than there other be centre backs. I thought it might have been sour grapes, but now I think it wasn’t. It was our fans that rated him highly. That's what I thought about Buckle hen he joined us from Torquay. So many warnings from Torquay fans and I thought it was sour grapes as he did so well there but they were spot on. You can usually tell the fans with sour grapes and the genuine ones. Something I've noticed is most are genuine and worth listening to. Sometimes some players just suit certain teams or managers though so always need to keep an open mind also. How many actual fans would have sour grapes? Not sure why anyone would lie to another club's fans just because they're annoyed that the player/manager left for them? You could of course get some fans that actually don't rate someone for some reason, like quite a few Gashead didn't rate Lockyer that highly, and yet he's now a Championship regular.
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Post by yetigas on Apr 4, 2021 12:34:22 GMT
That's what I thought about Buckle hen he joined us from Torquay. So many warnings from Torquay fans and I thought it was sour grapes as he did so well there but they were spot on. You can usually tell the fans with sour grapes and the genuine ones. Something I've noticed is most are genuine and worth listening to. Sometimes some players just suit certain teams or managers though so always need to keep an open mind also. How many actual fans would have sour grapes? Not sure why anyone would lie to another club's fans just because they're annoyed that the player/manager left for them? You could of course get some fans that actually don't rate someone for some reason, like quite a few Gashead didn't rate Lockyer that highly, and yet he's now a Championship regular....and therein lies the problem. Lockyer was a very good defender who read the game very well and has gone on to greater things. Craig was a defender who was coming to the end of his career and dropped a division when he left us. The fact that Gasheads seem to think Craig is the greater loss says more about the Gasheads judgement than it does about the players' ability.
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Post by playtowin on Apr 4, 2021 14:23:18 GMT
But then bought in Baldwin & Ehmer. On the face of it those 2 with kilgour & Harries and then Davies to cone back from injury gave us plenty of strength in that position. I agree. I don’t think anyone thought Ehmer would be as bad as he is. Baldwin came with pretty poor reviews but Ehmer and Kilgour should have been a decent partnership. I actually thought Davies looked decent when he was fit. Still, you are only as good as your strikers and they are gash. Ehmer wasnt too bad in a back 3 with harries and baldwin . They passed it around quite well and seemed to work. Problems started when the backline began getting changed about. Ehmer started being at wingback or fullback and kilgour came into the backline. Kilgour is the best aggressive defender out of the centrebacks but didnt suit the tippy tappy approach.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 4, 2021 15:19:27 GMT
That's what I thought about Buckle hen he joined us from Torquay. So many warnings from Torquay fans and I thought it was sour grapes as he did so well there but they were spot on. You can usually tell the fans with sour grapes and the genuine ones. Something I've noticed is most are genuine and worth listening to. Sometimes some players just suit certain teams or managers though so always need to keep an open mind also. How many actual fans would have sour grapes? Not sure why anyone would lie to another club's fans just because they're annoyed that the player/manager left for them? You could of course get some fans that actually don't rate someone for some reason, like quite a few Gashead didn't rate Lockyer that highly, and yet he's now a Championship regular. Lockyer seems to send more time out injured or on the bench, he's only played 20 games this season.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 4, 2021 15:22:12 GMT
How many actual fans would have sour grapes? Not sure why anyone would lie to another club's fans just because they're annoyed that the player/manager left for them? You could of course get some fans that actually don't rate someone for some reason, like quite a few Gashead didn't rate Lockyer that highly, and yet he's now a Championship regular....and therein lies the problem. Lockyer was a very good defender who read the game very well and has gone on to greater things. Craig was a defender who was coming to the end of his career and dropped a division when he left us. The fact that Gasheads seem to think Craig is the greater loss says more about the Gasheads judgement than it does about the players' ability. Lockyer left two summers ago, his leaving is relevant to our failings this season. Something's happened to make us go from a top 3 chasing side to a bottom 4 side in 18 months.
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Post by LJG on Apr 4, 2021 17:38:40 GMT
...and therein lies the problem. Lockyer was a very good defender who read the game very well and has gone on to greater things. Craig was a defender who was coming to the end of his career and dropped a division when he left us. The fact that Gasheads seem to think Craig is the greater loss says more about the Gasheads judgement than it does about the players' ability. Lockyer left two summers ago, his leaving is relevant to our failings this season. Something's happened to make us go from a top 3 chasing side to a bottom 4 side in 18 months. This comment might be the definition of irony.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 4, 2021 19:40:17 GMT
I agree. I don’t think anyone thought Ehmer would be as bad as he is. Baldwin came with pretty poor reviews but Ehmer and Kilgour should have been a decent partnership. I actually thought Davies looked decent when he was fit. Still, you are only as good as your strikers and they are gash. Ehmer wasnt too bad in a back 3 with harries and baldwin . They passed it around quite well and seemed to work. Problems started when the backline began getting changed about. Ehmer started being at wingback or fullback and kilgour came into the backline. Kilgour is the best aggressive defender out of the centrebacks but didnt suit the tippy tappy approach. Yes, it’s a good point. No one has decided on what our best CH pairing or threesome has been all season. These are League 1 defenders who need to get used to a system but never have. BG and Tis never seemed to know their best defence and JB has been b******* losing Nicholson and Rodman so he’s had to mix it up as well and I’m not sure he bows his best defence either. UTG!
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Post by banjogas on Apr 5, 2021 7:44:11 GMT
I think what you are all missing is the fact that the DOF/Chief scout Wriddlington sources and signs the players. Pretty obvious considering he was ex coventry and we signed 5 or 6 with a coventry connection.
The other blame must fall with CEO Martin Starnes, he runs the club and will have the final say.
When Barton talks about changes in the summer, I really hope Wael bins the pair of them for this disaster Of a season.
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