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Post by wilmslowgas on Apr 12, 2021 15:58:44 GMT
Three goals between them in the eighteen games since the closing of the January window. Pretty funny. The only people laughing are the opposing defenders lining up against them.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 14, 2021 11:50:24 GMT
It's an embarrassing statistic that's for sure. I agree with others, I can't for the life of me understand why Daly isn't being given more of a chance. If he can't get game time when Hanlan and Ayunga haven't scored in over a month in a congested fixture list, then when will he ever get game time? I like Ayunga but he's low on confidence, and Hanlan well he isn't a striker, not yet anyway. Daly is the only one of our 3 strikers that I'd have any confidence could score a goal this weekend. If he's fit, play him!!! Agreed. Don’t know what he has to do to start , perhaps he knows his Nietzsche better than Joey and also knows more in space/time and Cairo’s 😂😂
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 14, 2021 11:51:45 GMT
The players Garner/Widdrington bought in are contracted so, is Wael going to give Barton a war chest to pay off those players plus bring in his own ? Not sure he will need to. Here is my best estimate of the summer decision (out of contract/end of loan) players (16 in Total) View AttachmentOf these, some have said - Leahy and Rodman could be offered contracts. In addition to this, lets add McCormick as a very hopeful. So 3/16 remain. Here is my best estimate of the players under contract (Total 21) View Attachment21 including a lot of youngsters that could benefit from loans to lower divisions. Those out of favour (for example Ehmer) will have some interest IMO. Despite not firing at the Gas he has lot of experience and historically has a good pedigree (at Gillingham) these teams getting promoted for example may be interested. You are left with a few fringe players for sure (Mehew, Hargreaves, Liddle, Koiki, Tutonda) but I can't see them being on massive wedge and could be appealing in the loan market. Not sure the reset needs to be a major £££ - depending on the price of quality JB wants/needs to bring in. Can’t read your estimates as it comes up with “ invalid attachment “
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 14, 2021 11:54:38 GMT
I posted this in the ‘Tonight’s games’ thread but I should have posted it here. Shows how our failure to recruit a striker (and a competent centre back) in the window has cost us:
Goals from strikers since Feb 2nd (after transfer window shut)
Wigan 13/21 (62%) goals conceded 25 Wimbledon 10/18 (56%) goals conceded 16 Swindon 9/15 (60%) goals conceded 24 Northampton 4/14 (29%) goals conceded 20 Rochdale 4/9 (44%) goals conceded 23 Bristol Rovers 3/17 (18%) goals conceded 29
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 14, 2021 12:15:16 GMT
They all end to go in the summer, sooner the better The players Garner/Widdrington bought in are contracted so, is Wael going to give Barton a war chest to pay off those players plus bring in his own ? Yes, that seems the likely outcome if everyone wants a clear out. Yes you’re correct, not quite as easy to do it is it KP? Players on decent contracts aren’t going to rip them up just because we go down. Not sure that will happen. People wanting a clear out aren’t always the ones that want to pay for it! Those out of contract will probably go I suppose. UTG!
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Apr 14, 2021 12:15:35 GMT
Not sure he will need to. Here is my best estimate of the summer decision (out of contract/end of loan) players (16 in Total) View AttachmentOf these, some have said - Leahy and Rodman could be offered contracts. In addition to this, lets add McCormick as a very hopeful. So 3/16 remain. Here is my best estimate of the players under contract (Total 21) View Attachment21 including a lot of youngsters that could benefit from loans to lower divisions. Those out of favour (for example Ehmer) will have some interest IMO. Despite not firing at the Gas he has lot of experience and historically has a good pedigree (at Gillingham) these teams getting promoted for example may be interested. You are left with a few fringe players for sure (Mehew, Hargreaves, Liddle, Koiki, Tutonda) but I can't see them being on massive wedge and could be appealing in the loan market. Not sure the reset needs to be a major £££ - depending on the price of quality JB wants/needs to bring in. Can’t read your estimates as it comes up with “ invalid attachment “ Soz Pal: Summer decision: JvS André Armstrong Hare Little Rodman Davies Leahy Kelly Upson Ogogo Tomlinson Bennett Loanee: Day McCormick Oztumer Under Contract: Jaakkola Williams Ehmer Baldwin Kilgour Harries Martinez Tutonda Koiki Jones Westbrooke Grant Nicholson Mehew Hargreaves Liddle Barrett Hanlan Ayunga Daly Phillips
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 14, 2021 12:19:10 GMT
Cheers G1883 Any ideas regarding the young pros that we have in dev squad ? Thinking of Hoole, Warwick, Hulbert etc, feel a bit for those lads covid has really messed up their chances of making a case for a new contract if they dont already have one
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Post by alanrg on Apr 14, 2021 12:23:36 GMT
Looking at the list of 12 out of contract the only 2 I reckon they will offer a deal to is Leahy and Rodman the rest bye bye
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 14, 2021 12:30:30 GMT
They all end to go in the summer, sooner the better The players Garner/Widdrington bought in are contracted so, is Wael going to give Barton a war chest to pay off those players plus bring in his own ? He will just say "there's no place for you here. You cannot train with us either". So they will either do a Bennet or leave, and Agogo had that treatment as well. Think Ehmer will be looking
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Post by theduke on Apr 14, 2021 12:32:28 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 14, 2021 13:53:17 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard. Which for me makes the failure of any signings in January even more baffling. Sam Frost said this on deadline day: "Striker wanted, but they won't sign one for the sake of it. They want an upgrade on the first XI rather than a depth option" Are they honestly expecting us to believe that there were no players better than what we have willing to come here. I think they didn't try hard enough, and relied on Widdringtons assessment that the players were good enough, coming true....
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Post by theduke on Apr 14, 2021 15:32:21 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard. Which for me makes the failure of any signings in January even more baffling. Sam Frost said this on deadline day: "Striker wanted, but they won't sign one for the sake of it. They want an upgrade on the first XI rather than a depth option" Are they honestly expecting us to believe that there were no players better than what we have willing to come here. I think they didn't try hard enough, and relied on Widdringtons assessment that the players were good enough, coming true.... I think that's spot on. Widdrington had a proper sh1t eating grin on after that Pompey game post-Tisdale where Ayunga bagged a couple. Hasn't scored a single goal since if i'm not mistaken.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 14, 2021 15:48:53 GMT
Which for me makes the failure of any signings in January even more baffling. Sam Frost said this on deadline day: "Striker wanted, but they won't sign one for the sake of it. They want an upgrade on the first XI rather than a depth option" Are they honestly expecting us to believe that there were no players better than what we have willing to come here. I think they didn't try hard enough, and relied on Widdringtons assessment that the players were good enough, coming true.... I think that's spot on. Widdrington had a proper sh1t eating grin on after that Pompey game post-Tisdale where Ayunga bagged a couple. Hasn't scored a single goal since if i'm not mistaken. The ironic thing is Oxford signed 2 forward players on deadline day and a week later both scored against us
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Post by theduke on Apr 14, 2021 15:50:49 GMT
I think that's spot on. Widdrington had a proper sh1t eating grin on after that Pompey game post-Tisdale where Ayunga bagged a couple. Hasn't scored a single goal since if i'm not mistaken. The ironic thing is Oxford signed 2 forward players on deadline day and a week later both scored against us I know, it's just unbelievable that the club didn't act. Basically consigned us to the drop as soon as the window closed. I would have sacked off several of the squad in order to free up space and wages for a half-decent striker.
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Post by singupgas on Apr 14, 2021 16:01:59 GMT
But, but Tony said we had goals in the team and that this was the best squad since promotion! Surely "our Tony" cannot be wrong? 😊 If TW had stated that they wouldn't score in brothel would you have been any happier? What about JB suggesting Hanlan was going to score 20 goals? Probably trying to lift him a little after Tisdale publicly told everyone that we have strikers that can't score. Don't blame JB for trying to give one of the few strikers he has inherited a little bit of belief.
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Post by alanrg on Apr 14, 2021 16:31:50 GMT
You are right about Ayunga has not scored since Portsmouth after all Mr Widdrington did say we did not need any forwards we have enough in the building smug twat he is
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Post by CrispPusher on Apr 14, 2021 16:47:16 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard. Which for me makes the failure of any signings in January even more baffling. Sam Frost said this on deadline day: "Striker wanted, but they won't sign one for the sake of it. They want an upgrade on the first XI rather than a depth option" Are they honestly expecting us to believe that there were no players better than what we have willing to come here. I think they didn't try hard enough, and relied on Widdringtons assessment that the players were good enough, coming true.... 100% agree, Nero and his fiddle comes to mind.
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 15, 2021 8:28:20 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard. Which for me makes the failure of any signings in January even more baffling. Sam Frost said this on deadline day: "Striker wanted, but they won't sign one for the sake of it. They want an upgrade on the first XI rather than a depth option" Are they honestly expecting us to believe that there were no players better than what we have willing to come here. I think they didn't try hard enough, and relied on Widdringtons assessment that the players were good enough, coming true.... We had the wrong manager for that time. If PT was here at the start of the season, he might have done ok and he might have done on next season. But he said himself he does not agree with loan signings, unless there was a chance of signing them. That he would rather develop his own player’s. I agree with that in principle, but this was not the time for that. We needed player’s in on loan. Playing twice a week this season, there wasn’t much time to develop the player’s anyway. It’s all been about recovery. So it was the wrong season to rely on developing player’s. So many times this season, player’s have been having a good game against us and the commentator says, they are on loan. McCormick has been our best player overall. Some clubs have more than 5 on loan, but can only put 5 in the match day squad.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 15, 2021 8:44:20 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard. Yes, we did have better at conference level. But we didn’t the season before, that was the worst I can remember. This lot, not good but still better than those in 13/14. Whatever, we’re talking about crap and more or least crap, a low bar! UTG!
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Post by LJG on Apr 15, 2021 8:57:13 GMT
Worst set of forwards I’ve ever seen at Rovers. Even at a conference level we had a better standard. Don't think so. Ignoring JCH in the 18/19 crop: Gavin Reilly 4 league goals Alex Jakubiak 2 league goals Stefan Payne 2 league goals Tom Nichols 1 league goal. To date in 20/21: Hanlan 7 league goals Daly 3 league goals Ayunga 2 league goals I would happily take any of the current crop over any of those 18/19 crop. I can't be bothered to find the minutes played stats maybe someone else can. As an aside looking at those 18/19 stats now it is almost unbelievable that DC played Nichols over Gavin Reilly week in week out. It's similarly strange that Daly can't get a start now.
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