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Post by Jomo on Apr 18, 2021 5:35:27 GMT
of course it won't get deleted because its from one of the Moderators and they all hate Barton so it'll stay just like the thread "Barton Out" if I put a thread on saying "wael out" it'll be locked after 3 minutes Is this for real? It’s not from one of the mods. I am also fully behind Barton, you’re chatting out of your backside. Quite often the case with this one.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 18, 2021 5:41:52 GMT
FFS - can we delete this embarrassing twaddle. of course it won't get deleted because its from one of the Moderators and they all hate Barton so it'll stay just like the thread "Barton Out" if I put a thread on saying "wael out" it'll be locked after 3 minutes This thread wasnt started by a moderator. Not all the Mods hate Barton.
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Post by kruger on Apr 18, 2021 8:07:56 GMT
Mods bloody delete this will you, really getting watered of with some of the jokers on here
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 18, 2021 8:11:24 GMT
Mods bloody delete this will you, really getting P?!sed of with some of the jokers on here So am I, but if a mod dares to change anything, even in good faith, we get twat after twat moaning that we only make edits here to suit our agenda.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 18, 2021 8:15:55 GMT
People have a right to post their opinions on managers even if it’s what we perceive to be a load of nonsense. Or even defending the worst manager in our history (for avoidance of doubt, in my eyes that’s certainly Garner). So long as there’s no defamation or slander, or anything that could be construed as grossly inappropriate or offensive.
As a mod group opinions vary in a similar way to the general support base. Some of us back Barton to the hilt, some of us appear to want him gone or are sick of his excuses. Some are somewhere in the middle.
It’s interesting Joey appeared in the odds for the Preston job, Tisdale has been linked to a few jobs and appointed in a sort of DOF role. Garner has disappeared off the face of the planet. Says it all for me about how football as an industry perceives our predicament.
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 18, 2021 8:18:56 GMT
Mods bloody delete this will you, really getting P?!sed of with some of the jokers on here I’ll just delete your post as I’m not sure if I like it or not ? !!!
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Post by kruger on Apr 18, 2021 8:59:03 GMT
Mods bloody delete this will you, really getting P?!sed of with some of the jokers on here I’ll just delete your post as I’m not sure if I like it or not ? !!! go on then if it makes you feel better I don't care either way go on do it!
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Post by piratejames on Apr 18, 2021 9:15:26 GMT
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but sacking another manager is not going to solve anything. Back when we beat Accrington everyone was buzzing saying we were playing brilliant football and joey was exactly what we needed.
I think we all need to just accept that this season has been a write off from start to finish, not good enough for anyone’s standards, but I do have faith and the patience to see what joey can do with a transfer window and go from there.
There were some major failings in the summer, I like so many thought we were building a great squad capable of much more, but at the time I was still very worried that we had no experienced striker, and the side was mainly youthful. The idea was good build a squad of youthful up and comers but you need a spine to support the young ones when times get tough and we’ve just not had that.
I’m not making excuses for joey, but I think everyone can agree that not having Nicholson deeply affected the last few games and I’m confident in saying we would have got more points with him playing, same goes for if jak was playing all season.
Dust ourselves down and look forward to getting back in a stadium and supporting the team onto promotion next season.
UTG
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 18, 2021 9:16:28 GMT
I’ll just delete your post as I’m not sure if I like it or not ? !!! go on then if it makes you feel better I don't care either way go on do it! Don’t dare me ! P.s it was in sarcasm......
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Post by alanrg on Apr 18, 2021 9:17:57 GMT
Well said piratejames agree everything you say thank god when May 10 arrives when this bloody season ends
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Post by kruger on Apr 18, 2021 9:22:40 GMT
go on then if it makes you feel better I don't care either way go on do it! Don’t dare me ! P.s it was in sarcasm...... it wasn't a dare if you read it again you will see that, just fed up of posters starting threads about getting rid of Barton, there was one started last week, why didn't he say his bit on that one, not all of us feel the same way as him, I certainly don't
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Post by piratejames on Apr 18, 2021 9:24:55 GMT
Don’t dare me ! P.s it was in sarcasm...... it wasn't a dare if you read it again you will see that, just fed up of posters starting threads about getting rid of Barton, there was one started last week, why didn't he say his bit on that one, not all of us feel the same way as him, I certainly don't Kruger mate just take a step back and deep breath, I don’t like reading the let’s get rid posts as much as you, but it’s just people’s passion for the club, people have different ways of solving it. Ultimately what any of us say on here will have no affect on what actually happens, so stick the kettle on and enjoy the sun. UTG
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Post by LJG on Apr 18, 2021 9:36:26 GMT
No, I do get it. And you perfectly illustrated the guy's point. Next season we're going nowhere with the mouth in charge. If you got it, you wouldn’t be saying he was worse 😂. Don’t think any other football league manager ever, has thought, let’s have 4 left backs and 3 strikers. Garner deserves the award for worst manager ever, for that alone! Garner even signed loads of players in January and we got worse. Then signed loads during the summer. Whose record was worse, with another managers squad??? Even though they had a chance to sign players?? Or can you not answer that?? So you're saying Garner should take responsibility for poor results with Coughlan's squad but Barton shouldn't take responsibility for poor results with Garners squad? Does that definitely make sense? The idea that a manager should only be judged on his performance with his own squad is so clearly wrong it doesn't withstand even a single second's critical thought. If Barton had come in and we'd won all the games we'd lost and he'd gone on an amazing winning streak literally no one would be saying we couldn't judge him until he had his own squad. The role of football manager is one with responsibilities far beyond just recruitment. Training, motivation, selection, tactics, substitutions, being the face of the club to the fans. There's no reason he shouldn't be judged by those criteria and Barton has failed on every single one of those.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 9:52:29 GMT
Seems to be a lot of mediocre managers in the lower reaches of league football and half of them seem pretty eccentric in what they say and do as well. Good lower league managers are in short supply and attracting them to the Gas seems near on impossible.
The risk of keeping Barton is the disruption that will inevitable follow will not prove to be fruitful and the club will continue its downward spiral. It's clear he can't get improvement from the present squad for sure and it's clear that internal relations with staff will become strained if he does not get his own way or money for recruitment. Added to that there is the risk he will walk away either of his own accord or courtesy of the Judge in June. I'm not hopeful at all.
That said, what choice does Wael have? Listen to TW and Starnes again or gamble with his money and Barton. It's not a choice I would like and who would come in to replace Barton anyway?
I think it's stick with Barton and hope he recruits well and is around for pre-season.
Am I optimistic? No, but we are where we are. Another poor season and the club will be lucky to get 4000 regulars at the Mem and the downward spiral will continue. A lot rests on Barton.
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Post by gruad on Apr 18, 2021 10:06:38 GMT
Agree to the right of free speech which the mods generally support.
JB has not done better with these players. We needed a striker, something unpredictable in Jan.
He is a fanatic though who cares about football. He personally takes on these defeats.
I believe he should be given a chance in 21/22 L2 as he did ok at Fleetwood and was a top player, and is still driven for success.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 10:08:01 GMT
...not just at Bristol Rovers but in the history of world football. He has taken the same players which Garner, Widdrington and Tisdale had and made them even worse...I wouldn’t trust him to drive the team bus next season let alone assemble a new squad. What an absolute load of bollox!
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Post by bluegas on Apr 18, 2021 10:11:57 GMT
...not just at Bristol Rovers but in the history of world football. He has taken the same players which Garner, Widdrington and Tisdale had and made them even worse...I wouldn’t trust him to drive the team bus next season let alone assemble a new squad. What an absolute load of bollox! That's an understatement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 10:52:28 GMT
It’s threads like this that get me questioning “ Do I want to be associated with so say other fans like this” - Crazy title and at a time when we are all numb with what’s gone on.
So much hatred to JB from some Rovers Fans - I am embarrassed and thinking of shutting the door on it all.
This forum is at the same level as the club - Toxic caused in the main by egos backed up with little credibility.
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Post by daniel300380 on Apr 18, 2021 11:54:04 GMT
If you got it, you wouldn’t be saying he was worse 😂. Don’t think any other football league manager ever, has thought, let’s have 4 left backs and 3 strikers. Garner deserves the award for worst manager ever, for that alone! Garner even signed loads of players in January and we got worse. Then signed loads during the summer. Whose record was worse, with another managers squad??? Even though they had a chance to sign players?? Or can you not answer that?? So you're saying Garner should take responsibility for poor results with Coughlan's squad but Barton shouldn't take responsibility for poor results with Garners squad? Does that definitely make sense? The idea that a manager should only be judged on his performance with his own squad is so clearly wrong it doesn't withstand even a single second's critical thought. If Barton had come in and we'd won all the games we'd lost and he'd gone on an amazing winning streak literally no one would be saying we couldn't judge him until he had his own squad. The role of football manager is one with responsibilities far beyond just recruitment. Training, motivation, selection, tactics, substitutions, being the face of the club to the fans. There's no reason he shouldn't be judged by those criteria and Barton has failed on every single one of those. I didn’t say that did I? I said they should both be treated the same. Garner was given time and a window, so Barton should get that as well. Barton has not been good enough so far. I have questioned some of his team selections and Substitutions etc. But I think he will have more contacts and will bring in better quality loan player’s. Again yesterday Lincoln had key players on loan. The keeper, Morton and the player that scored a hat trick the game before. McCormick has been our best player. Don’t know if Barton is the right man and he has to take a bit of slack himself. But he’s certainly not been as bad as Garner last season. So he’s not the worse. With a full pre season and transfer market, we should be a lot better under Barton.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Apr 18, 2021 12:01:15 GMT
DC took is down after starting in March and the rest is history. I am confident JB will also get us promoted back to L1 and become a fans favourite
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