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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 31, 2021 7:15:00 GMT
Which RB is going to be left out then? Someone is going to feel very hard done by.
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2021 7:18:25 GMT
Which RB is going to be left out then? Someone is going to feel very hard done by. TAA I reckon. He mostly plays James these days and loves Trippier for some reason. Don't get me wrong, Trippier is ok but he isn't up to James, TAA or Wan-Bissaka's level
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 7:24:47 GMT
Which RB is going to be left out then? Someone is going to feel very hard done by. TAA I reckon. He mostly plays James these days and loves Trippier for some reason. Don't get me wrong, Trippier is ok but he isn't up to James, TAA or Wan-Bissaka's level Not sure about that. Trippier offers better defensive cover than the others. Reece James runs him close. Trippier has just won La Liga playing right back for probably the most defensive manager ever. I think Walker will also go as he can play right Cb in a three.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 31, 2021 8:09:18 GMT
Which RB is going to be left out then? Someone is going to feel very hard done by. TAA I reckon. He mostly plays James these days and loves Trippier for some reason. Don't get me wrong, Trippier is ok but he isn't up to James, TAA or Wan-Bissaka's level Its not for some reason, it's because he's a great player. Trippier's quality, great crosser of the ball. Would surely have learned a lot defensively winning the la liga with Atletico. He was also our best player in the world cup.
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2021 8:55:27 GMT
Yes he’s a great player, but he’s not at the level of TAA, Walker, James or Wan-Bissaka for me.
He struggles when being closed down and needs too much time on the ball. Yes he was good in the WC 3 years ago, but that was 3 years ago now. Yes he’s done well at Athletico, but I’d hardly be putting their success down to the RB who’s played 25 games per season.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 31, 2021 9:50:24 GMT
Yes he’s a great player, but he’s not at the level of TAA, Walker, James or Wan-Bissaka for me. He struggles when being closed down and needs too much time on the ball. Yes he was good in the WC 3 years ago, but that was 3 years ago now. Yes he’s done well at Athletico, but I’d hardly be putting their success down to the RB who’s played 25 games per season. Wow, you seriously think Wan-Bissaka is better than him? We might as well as end the discussion here! As for Trips, He's always been a good player at Burnley, Spurs and now Atletico, not just at the last world Cup.
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Post by Qatar Gas on May 31, 2021 9:53:19 GMT
If Southgate wanted to go back to playing three CB's, two defensive central midfielders and wing backs then TAA plays. He is the best RWB we have. However, playing that formation seriously limits our attacking play. Thanfulyl Southgate appears to have gone away with that again. I think defensively, Walker and James are the best right backs. If we are playing San Marino in a qualifier, yes go and play an attacking wing back but I think we should be picking defensive full backs during the tournament. We have enough attacking talent so no need to risk getting caught out because the full backs are too high up the pitch.
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Post by herbertblake on May 31, 2021 10:27:56 GMT
Ahead of the Euro tournament, here is a list of players who appeared for Rovers and were in a national squad for a major competition. Jaakkola is the first to do so whilst on Rovers' books.
Euro 68 Alan Ball Euro 92 Keith Curle, Nigel Martyn Euro 00 Nigel Martyn Euro 04 Vitalijs Astafjevs Euro 16 Fraser Forster Euro 20 Anssi Jaakkola, Connor Roberts
World Cup 50 Roy Bentley World Cup 66 Alan Ball World Cup 70 Alan Ball, Terry Cooper World Cup 98 Nigel Martyn World Cup 02 Nigel Martyn World Cup 10 Rory Fallon World Cup 14 Fraser Forster, Rickie Lambert
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 31, 2021 10:30:38 GMT
It’s a difficult one. An on-song Alexander-Arnold is one of the most potent attacking threats in the premier league. Clearly he is not a typical right back and if Southgate wants a solid 4 at the back then you can see why he’d want James and Walker. I’d take all three given it’s a 26 man squad. Trippier unlucky as he’s done nothing wrong.
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2021 10:32:17 GMT
Yes he’s a great player, but he’s not at the level of TAA, Walker, James or Wan-Bissaka for me. He struggles when being closed down and needs too much time on the ball. Yes he was good in the WC 3 years ago, but that was 3 years ago now. Yes he’s done well at Athletico, but I’d hardly be putting their success down to the RB who’s played 25 games per season. Wow, you seriously think Wan-Bissaka is better than him? We might as well as end the discussion here! As for Trips, He's always been a good player at Burnley, Spurs and now Atletico, not just at the last world Cup. Feel free to. Wan-Bassaka is 7 years younger, had 2 full seasons and Man Utd and done really well. You’re now referencing Trippiers success in the Championship with Burnley and as bench warmer for Spurs as a reason for being better than Man Utd’s first team RB? Trippier was an average at best RB until the WC where he excelled unexpectedly. Since then, he failed to make it yet again at the top level in the PL because he can’t handle the speed in which attackers close him down. It’s no surprise he’s done well in a less high paced division. Where I will agree though is that I’m sure he’s learnt a lot over the past year from Athletico, but even if they are defensive - they’re only really playing defensive against Barca/Madrid, the teams outside the bottom 6 really drop off in standards.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 31, 2021 10:42:09 GMT
Wow, you seriously think Wan-Bissaka is better than him? We might as well as end the discussion here! As for Trips, He's always been a good player at Burnley, Spurs and now Atletico, not just at the last world Cup. Feel free to. Wan-Bassaka is 7 years younger, had 2 full seasons and Man Utd and done really well. You’re now referencing Trippiers success in the Championship with Burnley and as bench warmer for Spurs as a reason for being better than Man Utd’s first team RB? Trippier was an average at best RB until the WC where he excelled unexpectedly. Since then, he failed to make it yet again at the top level in the PL because he can’t handle the speed in which attackers close him down. It’s no surprise he’s done well in a less high paced division. Where I will agree though is that I’m sure he’s learnt a lot over the past year from Athletico, but even if they are defensive - they’re only really playing defensive against Barca/Madrid, the teams outside the bottom 6 really drop off in standards. He was always a good RB. I've always rated him way before that world cup, so it wasn't unexpected at all. I get the impression you were ignorant to how good he was/is because he didn't play for a top club.
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Post by Hudson1883 on May 31, 2021 10:49:15 GMT
AWB has also never played for England. You could consider it a quite a gamble putting forth a young man who has never sampled international football, ahead of those with considerable experience in that field & who have also won domestic leagues/trophies this very season.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 31, 2021 11:00:55 GMT
On a personal note I hope Poland get the ball to Lewandowski as much as possible and stop this possession game. I’d love to see good, old fashioned wingers play a more dominant role instead of tippy tappy football, trying to walk the ball in. Some long shots woukd be welcomed too
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2021 11:09:17 GMT
Feel free to. Wan-Bassaka is 7 years younger, had 2 full seasons and Man Utd and done really well. You’re now referencing Trippiers success in the Championship with Burnley and as bench warmer for Spurs as a reason for being better than Man Utd’s first team RB? Trippier was an average at best RB until the WC where he excelled unexpectedly. Since then, he failed to make it yet again at the top level in the PL because he can’t handle the speed in which attackers close him down. It’s no surprise he’s done well in a less high paced division. Where I will agree though is that I’m sure he’s learnt a lot over the past year from Athletico, but even if they are defensive - they’re only really playing defensive against Barca/Madrid, the teams outside the bottom 6 really drop off in standards. He was always a good RB. I've always rated him way before that world cup, so it wasn't unexpected at all. I get the impression you were ignorant to how good he was/is because he didn't play for a top club. Yes good for a mid/lower table PL team, clearly every other manager agrees with me seeming as no one snapped up this sensational talent whilst he warmed the bench for Spurs. He came back from the WC and was a liability for Spurs and they got rid. As you obviously rated him his entire career, I’m sure you’d love to BOOM a post where you called him a massive success before that WC?
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2021 11:11:15 GMT
AWB has also never played for England. You could consider it a quite a gamble putting forth a young man who has never sampled international football, ahead of those with considerable experience in that field & who have also won domestic leagues/trophies this very season. Yeah that’s a fair point, although he’s sampled cup finals, champions league and Europa league - but it’s not the same tbf. But just as a player, I do think Wan-Bassaka is better.
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Post by Big Jock on May 31, 2021 11:14:50 GMT
Checking out th Scotland squad, i thinks McGinn could have a good tourny , Andy Robertson is obviously quality, McTominay could do well an I like th fact we’re takin a few youngsters. However i foresees problems in th goalkeeper an striker department’s where we are massively lacking in quality at international level.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 31, 2021 11:18:06 GMT
He was always a good RB. I've always rated him way before that world cup, so it wasn't unexpected at all. I get the impression you were ignorant to how good he was/is because he didn't play for a top club. Yes good for a mid/lower table PL team, clearly every other manager agrees with me seeming as no one snapped up this sensational talent whilst he warmed the bench for Spurs. He came back from the WC and was a liability for Spurs and they got rid. As you obviously rated him his entire career, I’m sure you’d love to BOOM a post where you called him a massive success before that WC? Great decision by Tottenham that. Where are they now and where are Atletico? I thought Spurs were made for selling Trippier for £20m.
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Post by Gassy on May 31, 2021 11:20:51 GMT
Yes good for a mid/lower table PL team, clearly every other manager agrees with me seeming as no one snapped up this sensational talent whilst he warmed the bench for Spurs. He came back from the WC and was a liability for Spurs and they got rid. As you obviously rated him his entire career, I’m sure you’d love to BOOM a post where you called him a massive success before that WC? Great decision by Tottenham that. Where are they now and where are Atletico? I thought Spurs were made for selling Trippier for £20m. What no BOOM? Ah so the entire reason Spurs aren’t in the top 4 now is because of Trippier and the only reason Athletico won the league is because of Trippier? 😂
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Post by spiess1 on May 31, 2021 11:22:18 GMT
"...However i foresees problems in th goalkeeper..." (Wee Jock) Plus ça change, eh?!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 31, 2021 11:23:12 GMT
Great decision by Tottenham that. Where are they now and where are Atletico? I thought Spurs were made for selling Trippier for £20m. What no BOOM? Ah so the entire reason Spurs aren’t in the top 4 now is because of Trippier and the only reason Athletico won the league is because of Trippier? 😂 I don't often comment on things other than Rovers on here. It is a Rovers forum after all. Pretty poor road you're going down there. As for your last bit, I've not said that all (although he would have contributed to both) . If you think Spurs selling him for £20m was good business you must be mad. A regular for the la liga champions but not good enough for Spurs? Don't think so somehow.
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