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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2021 17:45:28 GMT
Neither of our opinions matter Exactly with makes your claim that ‘shitstirrers’ damage the club invalid. Yeah, people making unfounded claims have not impacted the club and Wael at all. Lol.
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 17:46:19 GMT
I have no axe ta grind with th OP, but in my opinion some of th old boys club are spinning their little tales again, an it’s sad, really sad 😔 I’m not an old boy. Well maybe I am but I’m only 44. What you consider telling tales or whatever, I consider giving my opinion. It is a forum for them after all, not cooking sideshows.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2021 17:46:42 GMT
Wael has done a lot for this club and yet certain people on this forum question his wealth they haven’t got a clue Look at the family stand for example, some people are so ungrateful! No, that's definitely a.mark in the against column
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 17:47:19 GMT
Exactly with makes your claim that ‘shitstirrers’ damage the club invalid. Yeah, people making unfounded claims have not impacted the club and Wael at all. Lol. But you said my opinion was insignificant and in the same breath you say I’m making unfounded claims and then you post this. It’s not adding up Hugo, sorry.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Jun 9, 2021 17:48:26 GMT
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 17:48:49 GMT
Wael has done a lot for this club and yet certain people on this forum question his wealth they haven’t got a clue Look at the family stand for example, some people are so ungrateful! Haha good post! Can’t fathom the logic behind building that, another blot on Wael’s copybook.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2021 17:49:54 GMT
Yeah, people making unfounded claims have not impacted the club and Wael at all. Lol. But you said my opinion was insignificant and in the same breath you say I’m making unfounded claims and then you post this. It’s not adding up Hugo, sorry. Starting false rumours and perpetuating them are two very different things as well you know.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 9, 2021 17:52:39 GMT
Harrystokegas why don’t you join the other forum you would be right up there street
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Post by Jomo on Jun 9, 2021 17:56:28 GMT
For me, Wael is a lovely bloke with honourable intentions and has done a lot for the club. For that I am really thankful to him and I hope he remains with us for the long term.
Those are the positives and my feelings towards him are general positive. However, I do also think that he is a bit naive, a bit idealistic and he is easily swayed. He therefore has a tendency to flip flop in strategy and as a club in the last couple of years our direction has been very incoherent, and all this "great reset" stuff while retaining TWidds and Starnes again just seems to be a real stab in the dark again, with little in the way of true direction.
I hope that one of these days, he hits the jackpot, but I do wonder if it will be more by luck than judgement.
Nevertheless, as I say, I like the guy, and I appreciate the sacrifices and investment he has made in the club. I desperately hope he brings us success and gets us the new stadium we all desperately crave. Unfortunately I just don't see him as having quite the level of nouse or funding to see it through.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 9, 2021 17:56:51 GMT
Welcome harrys, don’t apologise for being a newbie, and you’re entitled to your view just like everyone else. Wael took over in Feb ‘16 and we were mid table and certainly not “all but a League 1 club” and whilst I’d never say it was his promotion because it was Darrell's and the team, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Nick Higgs’ promotion. Lots of good things happening incl the Training Ground and lots of bad things happening, relegation, 3 managers in a season. Sure things could be better but they’ve also been worse. It is what it’s always been, supporting a lower league club with all its ups and downs, much like it been for many years. Don’t be put off by others disagreeing but we’ve just been relegated, we’ve had 3 managers and everyone’s frustrated with all the negativity. Give Joey a chance to get his players, win a few games, develop a style and we'll be fine. 😉 Fingers crossed. UTG!
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 18:02:27 GMT
For me, Wael is a lovely bloke with honourable intentions and has done a lot for the club. For that I am really thankful to him and I hope he remains with us for the long term. Those are the positives and my feelings towards him are general positive. However, I do also think that he is a bit naive, a bit idealistic and he is easily swayed. He therefore has a tendency to flip flop in strategy and as a club in the last couple of years our direction has been very incoherent, and all this "great reset" stuff while retaining TWidds and Starnes again just seems to be a real stab in the dark again, with little in the way of true direction. I hope that one of these days, he hits the jackpot, but I do wonder if it will be more by luck than judgement. Nevertheless, as I say, I like the guy, and I appreciate the sacrifices and investment he has made in the club. I desperately hope he brings us success and gets us the new stadium we all desperately crave. Unfortunately I just don't see him as having quite the level of nouse or funding to see it through. I just don’t get why so many chastise Widdrington and Starnes, yet are comfortable with Wael appointing them, placing his trust in them, then after they’ve failed keep them on for another season. For the people that try and say I make false claims to dismiss my argument, just consider that for a moment. I have stated I have liked the guy too, my concern has nothing to do with his character but his judgement. Quite shocked at how poorly my views have been taken to on here to be honest. I’m not trying to WUM, just get my opinion across.
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Post by spiess1 on Jun 9, 2021 18:02:40 GMT
Harrystokegas why don’t you join the other forum you would be right up there street Where do you think he comes from? (answer is not Harry Stoke)
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 18:05:21 GMT
Welcome harrys, don’t apologise for being a newbie, and you’re entitled to your view just like everyone else. Wael took over in Feb ‘16 and we were mid table and certainly not “all but a League 1 club” and whilst I’d never say it was his promotion because it was Darrell's and the team, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Nick Higgs’ promotion. Lots of good things happening incl the Training Ground and lots of bad things happening, relegation, 3 managers in a season. Sure things could be better but they’ve also been worse. It is what it’s always been, supporting a lower league club with all its ups and downs, much like it been for many years. Don’t be put off by others disagreeing but we’ve just been relegated, we’ve had 3 managers and everyone’s frustrated with all the negativity. Give Joey a chance to get his players, win a few games, develop a style and we'll be fine. 😉 Fingers crossed. UTG! Thanks for your concern Wareham, you seem like a decent bloke. HIggs had two transfer windows that season, of which he funded our transfers at a personal cost. Remember when Gaffney had a sensational loan spell so Higgs dipped into his pocket bought him permanently? Thing is, even if we give Joey a chance the best he can do is get us promoted to the division we spent treading water in, in the last 5 years. We’ve become so mediocre and lacklustre as football club well the likes of Morecambe, Accrington and Wycombe are well run and above us. It sickens me.
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 18:06:08 GMT
Harrystokegas why don’t you join the other forum you would be right up there street Where do you think he comes from? (answer is not Harry Stoke) Where do you come from? I’m guessing not Germany like the great loanee keeper Fabian of the same name.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 9, 2021 18:07:13 GMT
Quite shocked at how poorly my views have been taken to on here to be honest. I’m not trying to WUM, just get my opinion across. In 7 posts you managed to firstly bring up a rumour from the other forum about issues with planning caused by employees upsetting neighbours at the training ground. Bump at least three threads from 2019. Then you capped it off with this masterpiece. If you’re not a WUM I’ll eat Ben Garners cap.
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Post by spiess1 on Jun 9, 2021 18:08:31 GMT
I come from The Other Forum (and so does my wife, Spartacus).
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 18:09:29 GMT
Quite shocked at how poorly my views have been taken to on here to be honest. I’m not trying to WUM, just get my opinion across. In 7 posts you managed to firstly bring up a rumour from the other forum about issues with planning caused by employees upsetting neighbours at the training ground. Bump at least three threads from 2019. Then you capped it off with this masterpiece. If you’re not a WUM I’ll eat Ben Garners cap. I’ve explained this before. The post about planning, I thought people would genuinely interested in as it was about people’s objections concerning the new training ground. The bump posts as I PM’ed you, I got a little confused. This? Well this is just my opinion and others have actually had the courtesy and grace to acknowledge it.
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 18:10:20 GMT
But feel free to eat Garners hat, he won’t be needing it as it has the Rovers logo on and he’s not employed by them anymore.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 9, 2021 18:11:23 GMT
I like you harrystokegas.
At least you put in the effort.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 9, 2021 18:13:43 GMT
In 7 posts you managed to firstly bring up a rumour from the other forum about issues with planning caused by employees upsetting neighbours at the training ground. Bump at least three threads from 2019. Then you capped it off with this masterpiece. If you’re not a WUM I’ll eat Ben Garners cap. I’ve explained this before. The post about planning, I thought people would genuinely interested in as it was about people’s objections concerning the new training ground. The bump posts as I PM’ed you, I got a little confused. This? Well this is just my opinion and others have actually had the courtesy and grace to acknowledge it. Your rap sheet will make Joey blush at this rate
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