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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 27, 2021 14:00:38 GMT
"Our expectation is that when the new season begins it will be for home fans only. " As this actually been confirmed by the Government/EFL or just something dreamt up by the SC? You could save on policing costs if this happens, but I like going away to games.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 27, 2021 17:36:47 GMT
Fake news.
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Post by Marshy on Jun 28, 2021 3:50:29 GMT
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 28, 2021 5:33:06 GMT
Ridiculous. Just means away fans will be in home ends like any usual away capacity fixture. Public transport is running, people are commuting for work, restaurants, family. Why should standing on an open terrace in the UK be an issue? Other countries seem to be managing just fine. Please note ANYTHING which downplays the seriousness of Covid will he pounced on. I pointed out the average age of death and that the rovers players had almost a zero chance of dying and got my @$$ kicked all over the place. Seems that both the architect of the modelling, Ferguson, and Hancock both agreed. I think it’s a pro boards rule or something, but alternative views won’t be tolerated I am afraid. Lives are at stake etc
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 28, 2021 5:34:23 GMT
The lab leak theory was fake news when Donald said it. Now he’s gone it’s no longer fake news.
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Post by cagastrophy on Jun 28, 2021 5:43:35 GMT
Good, more room for us. I hear some of them are nose pickers...dirty buggers
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Post by cagastrophy on Jun 28, 2021 5:52:51 GMT
Ridiculous. Just means away fans will be in home ends like any usual away capacity fixture. Public transport is running, people are commuting for work, restaurants, family. Why should standing on an open terrace in the UK be an issue? Other countries seem to be managing just fine. Please note ANYTHING which downplays the seriousness of Covid will he pounced on. I pointed out the average age of death and that the rovers players had almost a zero chance of dying and got my @$$ kicked all over the place. Seems that both the architect of the modelling, Ferguson, and Hancock both agreed. I think it’s a pro boards rule or something, but alternative views won’t be tolerated I am afraid. Lives are at stake etc I'm sure it's OK to state facts but some people are sensitive about the situation as have lost loved ones. I didn't see your comment so I can't say why someone might have been unhappy with it.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jun 28, 2021 6:57:04 GMT
Please note ANYTHING which downplays the seriousness of Covid will he pounced on. I pointed out the average age of death and that the rovers players had almost a zero chance of dying and got my @$$ kicked all over the place. Seems that both the architect of the modelling, Ferguson, and Hancock both agreed. I think it’s a pro boards rule or something, but alternative views won’t be tolerated I am afraid. Lives are at stake etc I'm sure it's OK to state facts but some people are sensitive about the situation as have lost loved ones. I didn't see your comment so I can't say why someone might have been unhappy with it. It most certainly isn’t ok state facts if it’s not supportive of the narrative. My comment was “it’s a bit OTT wishing thoughts and prayers to the rovers players given that they’re in their 20s, fit and there chance of death is almost zero. The average age of death is above life expectancy so if you’re not old, or already have a health condition, it’s almost absurd to suggest they are at risk” Lost one family member to Covid. He was already deep Into Alzheimer’s and over 80. I know others have been affected, long Covid etc, but that’s what I said and I got threats of banning and all sorts. So no, you can only state facts if it doesn’t hype up the issue.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 28, 2021 7:49:21 GMT
Having read the article, it appears this isn't based on anything other than gut feeling. If restrictions are ended on July 19th, I can't see any reason how you could justify banning away fans. Re: iFollow, it needs to revert back to the previous system once fans are allowed back in at full capacity. Whilst I am sure I follow will revert I am not sure it needs to. Whilst the home team may lose some revenue from away fans who will not travel, they will make this back by their own fans who do not normally travel for their away games buying a pass. the question I guess the questionj is how much revenue would be lost by home fans staying away and watching i follow instead? Seems as if clubs are no longer bound by the collective iFollow agreement anyway.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jun 28, 2021 8:25:53 GMT
It's really the elderley and / vulnerable that could still be at serious risk.
A friend of a friend is in hospital right now with covid having had both jabs. I don't believe he's on a ventilator but he's pretty unwell. It's true, he's in his late sixties but it goes to show that even if you're fully vaccinated some will sadly still get very ill or die.
I can understand some fans being nervous about returning to crowded stadiums, particularly if all restrictions are lifted.
I wonder if clubs have considered making iFollow available to season ticket holders. That way they would not lose out on any revenue and the supporter could decide whether to attend or not.
They could also make iFollow available for away games to season ticket holders at a charge of £10 per game.
It might actually encourage some fans to purchase a season ticket who otherwise wouldn't bother.
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Post by bluegas on Jun 28, 2021 8:40:57 GMT
I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm repeating something, but surely it's not away fans in the grounds that's a problem. It's turning up early and mixing in bars, etc.. This could lead to spread of new variants or from a hot-spot to an otherwise Covid free area.
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Post by baggins on Jun 28, 2021 8:42:55 GMT
I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm repeating something, but surely it's not away fans in the grounds that's a problem. It's turning up early and mixing in bars, etc.. This could lead to spread of new variants or from a hot-spot to an otherwise Covid free area. That's potentially going to happen as of 19th July anyway.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jun 28, 2021 8:47:14 GMT
I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm repeating something, but surely it's not away fans in the grounds that's a problem. It's turning up early and mixing in bars, etc.. This could lead to spread of new variants or from a hot-spot to an otherwise Covid free area. That's potentially going to happen as of 19th July anyway. Assuming we move to level 4 on the 19th If the last 15 months tells us anything, it is that nothing is certain
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 10:09:05 GMT
Ridiculous. Just means away fans will be in home ends like any usual away capacity fixture. Public transport is running, people are commuting for work, restaurants, family. Why should standing on an open terrace in the UK be an issue? Other countries seem to be managing just fine. Please note ANYTHING which downplays the seriousness of Covid will he pounced on. I pointed out the average age of death and that the rovers players had almost a zero chance of dying and got my @$$ kicked all over the place. Seems that both the architect of the modelling, Ferguson, and Hancock both agreed. I think it’s a pro boards rule or something, but alternative views won’t be tolerated I am afraid. Lives are at stake etc Ah, OK. Well I should probably avoid getting into those debates then as my views will definitely be at odds with those rules! You only have to look at the Euro ground guides to see that there are a range of measures in place. Also here, some pubs are uber strict whilst others are super relaxed. There's no consistency which in a way, I'm fairly pleased about. It offers a choice.
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 28, 2021 11:42:29 GMT
It's really the elderley and / vulnerable that could still be at serious risk. A friend of a friend is in hospital right now with covid having had both jabs. I don't believe he's on a ventilator but he's pretty unwell. It's true, he's in his late sixties but it goes to show that even if you're fully vaccinated some will sadly still get very ill or die. I can understand some fans being nervous about returning to crowded stadiums, particularly if all restrictions are lifted. I wonder if clubs have considered making iFollow available to season ticket holders. That way they would not lose out on any revenue and the supporter could decide whether to attend or not. They could also make iFollow available for away games to season ticket holders at a charge of £10 per game. It might actually encourage some fans to purchase a season ticket who otherwise wouldn't bother. This shows that we are all different and jabs might not be effective for everyone
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