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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 21:04:42 GMT
I would be this brave. I'd absolutely always say the same in person as I would on here. It's a very effective form of self moderation. I would say the stuff I say on here too. It comes across different written though too. 😊 How many times have you been beaten up?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 15, 2021 21:05:44 GMT
I should have been better as well. Two to tango. Pint on me when we get back to normal. Providing you stay 2 meters away And he's vaccinated Haha sorry okebourne couldn't resist 😂 I was planning to spike his drink with it
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 15, 2021 21:11:51 GMT
And he's vaccinated Haha sorry okebourne couldn't resist 😂 I was planning to spike his drink with it I actually just laughed out loud !!! 😂😂😂
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 15, 2021 21:12:57 GMT
I would say the stuff I say on here too. It comes across different written though too. 😊 How many times have you been beaten up? If he speaks how he posts , he wouldn’t have many teeth
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 15, 2021 21:20:20 GMT
You really need to lower your tone , you don’t have an actual clue why individuals don’t want to take the vaccine or the reasons behind it , I’ve been reading through the posts and the levels of disrespect being banded around is ridiculous, would you actually be this brave in person , I’m not trying to be threatening here as I couldn’t knock the skin off a rice pudding but I think if you were actually brave enough to be this straight talking in person , you’d end up getting your nose put to the back of your head , just wind it in a little. I know it’s a sensitive issue band I’ve come across as a bit of a cock on here at times regarding this subject but your posts in particular are really starting to grate, just be nice as you don’t know people’s circumstances. I would be this brave. I'd absolutely always say the same in person as I would on here. It's a very effective form of self moderation. The difference between you and GGMI ( particularly on this subject ) is that you’re constructive in your replies with a level of mutual respect , GGMI just comes across as an idiot , generally find him quite amusing if I’m being honest and he’s probably a lovely lad but I just don’t like how he’s spoken on this subject , yes people don’t agree but you can Disagree without being a dick.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 15, 2021 21:44:38 GMT
Did  you have the pedicure as well ? 20% off anal bleaching, so no I didn’t have the pedicure. Look after the pennies and the pounds…. You know the rest. .....have already been taken when the wife and kids raid your wallet. 😶
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Post by straighouttabristol on Jul 15, 2021 21:45:34 GMT
My daughter works in medicine as a radiographer and says there are patients she has come across which were registered as dying from covid when they were seriously ill from another illness and would have passed away anyway. The disease is very contagious and can kill, but the amount of people that actually died from the disease in this country is less than recorded. Ask your daughter if she can explain the excess deaths. Well treatments and operations getting cancelled and higher suicide rate didn’t help. I don’t think we’re saying COVID don’t exist a d people didn’t die from it what we’re saying is the figures aren’t correct. They even say now on the figures died with in 28 days of testing positive not every one of them from COVID. The average deaths from other illnesses such as flu went down. Figures, stats and people working front line show the deaths from COVID are reported higher than they are. I’m not a COVID denier or anti vaccines I don’t believe the earth is flat or that 5G is frying us.
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Post by faggotygas on Jul 16, 2021 8:30:33 GMT
Ask your daughter if she can explain the excess deaths. Well treatments and operations getting cancelled and higher suicide rate didn’t help. I don’t think we’re saying COVID don’t exist a d people didn’t die from it what we’re saying is the figures aren’t correct. They even say now on the figures died with in 28 days of testing positive not every one of them from COVID. The average deaths from other illnesses such as flu went down. Figures, stats and people working front line show the deaths from COVID are reported higher than they are. I’m not a COVID denier or anti vaccines I don’t believe the earth is flat or that 5G is frying us. Take a look at the ONS figures instead. these are not 'within 28 days', they are deaths where a doctor has mentioned COVID-19 on the death certificate. There are statistics on whether COVID-19 was recorded as the primary cause, or a contributing factor. Before vaccination, over 90% of the deaths registered as involving COVID recorded it as the primary cause. It's now dropped to 70-80%. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending2july2021There's no official stats on suicides in 2020 yet, they are due to be released in September.
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Post by RD on Jul 16, 2021 8:41:19 GMT
Well treatments and operations getting cancelled and higher suicide rate didn’t help. I don’t think we’re saying COVID don’t exist a d people didn’t die from it what we’re saying is the figures aren’t correct. They even say now on the figures died with in 28 days of testing positive not every one of them from COVID. The average deaths from other illnesses such as flu went down. Figures, stats and people working front line show the deaths from COVID are reported higher than they are. I’m not a COVID denier or anti vaccines I don’t believe the earth is flat or that 5G is frying us. Take a look at the ONS figures instead. these are not 'within 28 days', they are deaths where a doctor has mentioned COVID-19 on the death certificate. There are statistics on whether COVID-19 was recorded as the primary cause, or a contributing factor. Before vaccination, over 90% of the deaths registered as involving COVID recorded it as the primary cause. It's now dropped to 70-80%. www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending2july2021There's no official stats on suicides in 2020 yet, they are due to be released in September. Agreed. To be honest it's largely irrelevant anyway. People can see from excess deaths that people have clearly died from Covid - even the conspiracy theorists can surely except that. So even if people think it's more like 30k in stead of 150k, that's still 30k that deaths that occurred during a prolonged national lockdown. Imagine how high the number would have been had we have been out swanning around, unmasked and with no social distancing for the duration? Not least because infections would have gone up, more people would have become seriously ill and sooner or later the hospitals would have become full, meaning that those who might have been saved had they have been able to get the care they required, wouldn't have done and so would have succumbed to the disease.
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Post by baggins on Jul 16, 2021 10:30:53 GMT
The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if no-one was allowed in, vaccinated or not.
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Post by bluebiro on Jul 16, 2021 10:55:01 GMT
Out of interest What would it take for people to feel comfortable going to a game without a mask?do you have a low figure of deaths infections or vaccinations?according to the health people they say this could be here for ever in different strains so would it be indefinitely if this is the case?
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jul 16, 2021 11:07:14 GMT
A friend of mine worked on the COVID ward and said many families were disputing cause of death being put as COVID when it was other health issues. My daughter works in medicine as a radiographer and says there are patients she has come across which were registered as dying from covid when they were seriously ill from another illness and would have passed away anyway. The disease is very contagious and can kill, but the amount of people that actually died from the disease in this country is less than recorded. With all due respect, I am not sure if a radiographer would have all the facts regarding how cases are recorded and even if this were true, any deaths that can be saved through vaccination should be. And anyone stupid enough to believe conspiracy theories should be forced to have the vaccination
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Post by pepsi on Jul 16, 2021 11:10:41 GMT
The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if no-one was allowed in, vaccinated or not. Without wanting to get too involved on this thread. I think this is Most sensible post on this thread 😂 Circus and bread (and furlough 😂 ) for a few months, enjoy it while it lasts boys 😉
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Post by pirate on Jul 16, 2021 11:33:06 GMT
My daughter works in medicine as a radiographer and says there are patients she has come across which were registered as dying from covid when they were seriously ill from another illness and would have passed away anyway. The disease is very contagious and can kill, but the amount of people that actually died from the disease in this country is less than recorded. With all due respect, I am not sure if a radiographer would have all the facts regarding how cases are recorded and even if this were true, any deaths that can be saved through vaccination should be. And anyone stupid enough to believe conspiracy theories should be forced to have the vaccination "Should be forced to have the vaccination" Rule No. 1 in the Nuremberg Code 1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision.Â
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Post by baggins on Jul 16, 2021 11:36:17 GMT
With all due respect, I am not sure if a radiographer would have all the facts regarding how cases are recorded and even if this were true, any deaths that can be saved through vaccination should be. And anyone stupid enough to believe conspiracy theories should be forced to have the vaccination "Should be forced to have the vaccination" Rule No. 1 in the Nuremberg Code 1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. Who needs the Police eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 11:43:37 GMT
Out of interest What would it take for people to feel comfortable going to a game without a mask?do you have a low figure of deaths infections or vaccinations?according to the health people they say this could be here for ever in different strains so would it be indefinitely if this is the case? Exactly what Theresa May was getting at in her speech a few weeks ago. So every time there's a new variant or strain, we could be going into restrictions. It's silly. Like it's silly how the whole country suffers when there's a spike elsewhere. How does a few cases in Bolton affect Cornwall or Sussex?
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Post by baggins on Jul 16, 2021 12:00:40 GMT
Out of interest What would it take for people to feel comfortable going to a game without a mask?do you have a low figure of deaths infections or vaccinations?according to the health people they say this could be here for ever in different strains so would it be indefinitely if this is the case? Exactly what Theresa May was getting at in her speech a few weeks ago. So every time there's a new variant or strain, we could be going into restrictions. It's silly. Like it's silly how the whole country suffers when there's a spike elsewhere. How does a few cases in Bolton affect Cornwall or Sussex? Because people travel from Bolton to Cornwall or Sussex.
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Post by matealotblue on Jul 16, 2021 12:25:34 GMT
140,000 at Silverstone this weekend……….more like a small town rather than a crowd.
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Post by baggins on Jul 16, 2021 12:39:05 GMT
140,000 at Silverstone this weekend……….more like a small town rather than a crowd. Pretty much says "deal with it".
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Post by oldie on Jul 16, 2021 14:41:52 GMT
With all due respect, I am not sure if a radiographer would have all the facts regarding how cases are recorded and even if this were true, any deaths that can be saved through vaccination should be. And anyone stupid enough to believe conspiracy theories should be forced to have the vaccination "Should be forced to have the vaccination" Rule No. 1 in the Nuremberg Code 1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. "and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision" Oh the irony....
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