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Post by pirate on Jul 16, 2021 15:06:06 GMT
"Should be forced to have the vaccination" Rule No. 1 in the Nuremberg Code 1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. "and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision" Oh the irony.... Indeed. I'm again reminded of this previous scandal. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 15:11:48 GMT
Regardless of the argument, I feel we havent seen the last of lockdowns in 2021. Hence not in a rush for the vaccine or to buy a ST. If restrictions do get lifted and we get through winter fairly normal then I will slowly come round to be less cynical and will reassess my stance on the vaccine. Im very interested in the changes to society and the rules going forward. Its been a very interesting ride so far watching from afar and it feels far from over. Time will reveal all.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Jul 16, 2021 15:18:29 GMT
With all due respect, I am not sure if a radiographer would have all the facts regarding how cases are recorded and even if this were true, any deaths that can be saved through vaccination should be. And anyone stupid enough to believe conspiracy theories should be forced to have the vaccination "Should be forced to have the vaccination" Rule No. 1 in the Nuremberg Code 1.The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. It's Norton rules here Pirate -:-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 17:08:36 GMT
Tickets on sale for the last three pre season friendlies now, but not a mention about the requirements for supporters attending.
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Post by aghast on Jul 16, 2021 17:45:49 GMT
Regardless of the argument, I feel we havent seen the last of lockdowns in 2021. Hence not in a rush for the vaccine or to buy a ST. If restrictions do get lifted and we get through winter fairly normal then I will slowly come round to be less cynical and will reassess my stance on the vaccine. Im very interested in the changes to society and the rules going forward. Its been a very interesting ride so far watching from afar and it feels far from over. Time will reveal all. You're waiting to see if restrictions are lifted, and if they are, because Covid deaths and hospitalisations are low, you'll get the vaccine? Ok. When you decide to have it, I hope you'll be thanking those of us who have already done it and allowed you your freedom to decide.
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Post by oldie on Jul 16, 2021 17:49:01 GMT
Regardless of the argument, I feel we havent seen the last of lockdowns in 2021. Hence not in a rush for the vaccine or to buy a ST. If restrictions do get lifted and we get through winter fairly normal then I will slowly come round to be less cynical and will reassess my stance on the vaccine. Im very interested in the changes to society and the rules going forward. Its been a very interesting ride so far watching from afar and it feels far from over. Time will reveal all. You're waiting to see if restrictions are lifted, and if they are, because Covid deaths and hospitalisations are low, you'll get the vaccine? Ok. When you decide to have it, I hope you'll be thanking those of us who have already done it and allowed you your freedom to decide. Very precisely Aghast. Some would call it cowardice, I would.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 16, 2021 17:50:26 GMT
Tickets on sale for the last three pre season friendlies now, but not a mention about the requirements for supporters attending. I thought that was odd, you'd think that was an important issue to cover!
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Post by herbertblake on Jul 16, 2021 19:01:41 GMT
I had this email reply today from Tom Gorringe when I asked about buying tickets other than via Ticket master on matchday and when was shop re opening.
"It is a very busy time but preparations are well under way for the new season.
Matchday prices will be released shortly along with the on-sale for the first league games. We are just awaiting a call that we have Monday with the EFL regarding the return of spectators.
At the moment sales are only via Tickmaster, however work is underway to get the store re-opened and once that is sorted purchases can be made in store again.
Friendly tickets are already on sale now, Cheltenham tickets will go on sale with the first batch of league games.
If you need anything else, just let me know."
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Post by herbertblake on Jul 16, 2021 19:04:08 GMT
Tickets on sale for the last three pre season friendlies now, but not a mention about the requirements for supporters attending. I thought that was odd, you'd think that was an important issue to cover! the issue has been covered previously by Martyn Starnes a condition of entry will be proof of double vaccination or a negative covid test.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 19:28:55 GMT
I thought that was odd, you'd think that was an important issue to cover! the issue has been covered previously by Martyn Starnes a condition of entry will be proof of double vaccination or a negative covid test. Surely the negative test is the only way? A super double vaxxer could be carrying the virus and spread it to us pure beings.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 16, 2021 19:48:41 GMT
the issue has been covered previously by Martyn Starnes a condition of entry will be proof of double vaccination or a negative covid test. Surely the negative test is the only way? A super double vaxxer could be carrying the virus and spread it to us pure beings. Thank you, Lord Voldemort.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 16, 2021 19:54:06 GMT
the issue has been covered previously by Martyn Starnes a condition of entry will be proof of double vaccination or a negative covid test. Surely the negative test is the only way? A super double vaxxer could be carrying the virus and spread it to us pure beings. I thought you weren't going to attend games for the foreseeable future anyway?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 16, 2021 19:58:58 GMT
I thought that was odd, you'd think that was an important issue to cover! the issue has been covered previously by Martyn Starnes a condition of entry will be proof of double vaccination or a negative covid test. I know but if a supporter hadn't read that article there's nothing on the latest article to show the entry requirements, although from what TG has now said it seems that might only been confirmed in his call with the EFL on Monday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 20:49:53 GMT
Surely the negative test is the only way? A super double vaxxer could be carrying the virus and spread it to us pure beings. I thought you weren't going to attend games for the foreseeable future anyway? Thanks for your concern. I won't be going if there is a requirement to wear a mask outdoors. Your thoughts on my point, or are you just looking to trip me up?
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Post by aghast on Jul 16, 2021 21:16:31 GMT
I thought you weren't going to attend games for the foreseeable future anyway? Thanks for your concern. I won't be going if there is a requirement to wear a mask outdoors. Your thoughts on my point, or are you just looking to trip me up? A negative test means nothing if it just relies upon the honesty and/or competence of the person taking it at home and logging the result. Which means an expensive private test. A double dose of the vaccine can be shown as proof via the NHS app. I've looked and looked on the official BRFC website and I can't find anything to explain what 'proof' of a negative Covid test actually is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 22:12:54 GMT
Thanks for your concern. I won't be going if there is a requirement to wear a mask outdoors. Your thoughts on my point, or are you just looking to trip me up? A negative test means nothing if it just relies upon the honesty and/or competence of the person taking it at home and logging the result. Which means an expensive private test. A double dose of the vaccine can be shown as proof via the NHS app. I've looked and looked on the official BRFC website and I can't find anything to explain what 'proof' of a negative Covid test actually is. Yeah, the honesty thing is a big one. As for clarity from Rovers, I guess it's the same for all sorts of businesses who just aren't clear themselves on the rules/guidance as you cannot please everyone. I stand by my point though. Moreso since there is a notion of those vaccinated such as yourself(I gather) pointing fingers at those who aren't. Being jabbed doesn't mean you aren't carrying. By not proving negativity, that is placing those who have taken tests to ensure they are clear, at risk. Therefore, in the interests of eliminating as much risk as possible. Everyone should prove a negative result within a sensible time period prior to attending. I cant believe this will be argued considering how uber cautious most of this forum pretends to be.
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Post by southbristolgas on Jul 17, 2021 13:15:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 13:50:04 GMT
But you can legally attend with any other virus yeah? Just not covid. 😜
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Post by axegas on Jul 17, 2021 14:02:46 GMT
But you can legally attend with any other virus yeah? Just not covid. 😜 Not if the virus is listed as an infectious disease under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 14:03:42 GMT
From SAG? You getting your info from OTIB?
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