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Post by percy on Aug 4, 2021 13:48:19 GMT
41-43 being left available for the big signing! 44 for Jones is either a lucky number thing or maybe he'll be the first loaned to the Conference?
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 4, 2021 13:58:45 GMT
Should scrap squad numbers and make players genuinely βplay for the shirtβ 1-11. Making earning the shirt and keeping the shirt a big thing. How would that work in the modern game with squads though? And what is the benefit? It'd just make it harder to identify the players Never a problem in the old days, we can all read a team sheet and there's a big screen at one end of the Mem.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Aug 4, 2021 14:02:56 GMT
Squad numbers mean nothing. Roy Keane and Paul Scholes were two of Manchester unitedβs most influential players for almost 20 years and wore numbers 16 and 18.
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Post by thegasman on Aug 4, 2021 14:09:52 GMT
How would that work in the modern game with squads though? And what is the benefit? It'd just make it harder to identify the players Never a problem in the old days, we can all read a team sheet and there's a big screen at one end of the Mem. And yet there isn't. Apparently not currently working. Another fine purchase from that Lansdown fellow's company.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 4, 2021 14:26:49 GMT
Whilst accepting squad numbers do not have the same thinking as years ago because of bigger number of players in squads and more subs allowed it does still have meaning. For instance, the keeper number is No1 I have never heard of an outfield player using that number. For many years Rovers No1 keeper has been the second choice keeper. Why? perhaps to keeps them happy they are 2nd choice! Nice to see Kilgour move up to No5 shirt whilst most other players from last years squad remain the same shirt number another exception being Martinez. Strange that Pitman is No40 rather than the spare No21! He wanted a number to reflect his age
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 4, 2021 14:28:38 GMT
Never a problem in the old days, we can all read a team sheet and there's a big screen at one end of the Mem. And yet there isn't. Apparently not currently working. Another fine purchase from that Lansdown fellow's company. I never had a problem at Eastville knowing who the team was (not relevant but of course Mr Lansdown used to stand on the Tote End)
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Post by gasmania on Aug 4, 2021 14:57:26 GMT
Pitman has gone for his goal target? π
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 4, 2021 14:57:53 GMT
And yet there isn't. Apparently not currently working. Another fine purchase from that Lansdown fellow's company. I never had a problem at Eastville knowing who the team was (not relevant but of course Mr Lansdown used to stand on the Tote End) Had Tote-enders known what he would become, they probably wouldn't have made him feel so welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 15:02:38 GMT
Great to see Kingsley and Joe getting squad numbers, a couple of good news stories from the Academy seen them play a few times, 100% deserve a chance. Alfie will also have a great opportunity to learn from some good (unlike last season) experienced players.
Just such a shame that there are certain individuals (Staff) at the Academy that are taking the P!*& out of the club and us fans treating it as some personal plaything. I am just losing faith with how we are running the future of the club, I am having a dig at the set up and how its being run not certain players as its not their fault.
Some very good players and coaches have left or been released because of the shambles certain elements bring to what should be a very professional set up. I know that Rovers are not alone as it happens in every club. Just very unnecessary for me that we let it happen.
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Post by albaron on Aug 4, 2021 15:56:25 GMT
Just such a shame that there are certain individuals (Staff) at the Academy that are taking the P!*& out of the club and us fans treating it as some personal plaything. I am just losing faith with how we are running the future of the club, I am having a dig at the set up and how its being run not certain players as its not their fault. Is this something you know or have been told about. Are these people in senior positions ? . I take it they were here before Joey arrived ?
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 4, 2021 15:59:21 GMT
Whilst accepting squad numbers do not have the same thinking as years ago because of bigger number of players in squads and more subs allowed it does still have meaning. For instance, the keeper number is No1 I have never heard of an outfield player using that number. For many years Rovers No1 keeper has been the second choice keeper. Why? perhaps to keeps them happy they are 2nd choice! Nice to see Kilgour move up to No5 shirt whilst most other players from last years squad remain the same shirt number another exception being Martinez. Strange that Pitman is No40 rather than the spare No21! He wanted a number to reflect his age I heard it was waist size πππ
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 4, 2021 16:16:14 GMT
He wanted a number to reflect his age I heard it was waist size πππ And what's up with a 40 inch waist?
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Post by neogas on Aug 4, 2021 16:21:03 GMT
I heard it was waist size πππ And what's up with a 40 inch waist? Nothing that youβd be able to see! π
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 20:35:04 GMT
Just such a shame that there are certain individuals (Staff) at the Academy that are taking the P!*& out of the club and us fans treating it as some personal plaything. I am just losing faith with how we are running the future of the club, I am having a dig at the set up and how its being run not certain players as its not their fault. Is this something you know or have been told about. Are these people in senior positions ? . I take it they were here before Joey arrived ? Unfortunately first hand experience. I have a son that plays, TBF the pre academy u8's and pretty much the Foundation Phase u9's - u12's, is run fairly well, all be it with sub standard home venues, unless LSC is booked, and no where to call home. The long term coaches being very good, The part timers are in the main poor, and the good ones dont last very long. The other Academy teams (that are played on a regular basis Cat 3) without exception all have their own facilities ranging from very good to ok. Problem is when you get to Youth Development Level u13's and above. Training Facilities bordering on unplayable and risking injury which happens a lot, coaching and strength ,conditioning non existent. The biggest issue is the Leads of the Youth Development stages and the ultimate person in charge. These people have the decision making powers and in my opinion are clueless in every way from coaching techniques, administration, planning and organisation. All very separate from the First team and first team affairs, until you start to get to scholarship level at u17 u18 and above. Unfortunately its to late by then, which is why I genuinely believe that the Brentford model would work well for us, unless they have a complete review and change in the full time personnel. But in fairness the club have more important and pressing issues with the First team, which I understand. Maybe a Academy Thread would work.
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Post by Somersetgas on Aug 4, 2021 22:31:05 GMT
Should still run out as 1-11, none of these squad number self centred nonsense.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 5, 2021 6:31:57 GMT
Great to see Kingsley and Joe getting squad numbers, a couple of good news stories from the Academy seen them play a few times, 100% deserve a chance. Alfie will also have a great opportunity to learn from some good (unlike last season) experienced players. Just such a shame that there are certain individuals (Staff) at the Academy that are taking the P!*& out of the club and us fans treating it as some personal plaything. I am just losing faith with how we are running the future of the club, I am having a dig at the set up and how its being run not certain players as its not their fault. Some very good players and coaches have left or been released because of the shambles certain elements bring to what should be a very professional set up. I know that Rovers are not alone as it happens in every club. Just very unnecessary for me that we let it happen. Perhaps you could offer some assistance to improve it?
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 8:52:22 GMT
Is this something you know or have been told about. Are these people in senior positions ? . I take it they were here before Joey arrived ?Β Β Unfortunately first hand experience. I have a son that plays, TBF the pre academy u8's and pretty much the Foundation Phase u9's - u12's, is run fairly well, all be it with sub standard home venues, unless LSC is booked, and no where to call home. The long term coaches being very good, The part timers are in the main poor, and the good ones dont last very long. The other Academy teams (that are played on a regular basis Cat 3) without exception all have their own facilities ranging from very good to ok. Problem is when you get to Youth Development Level u13's and above. Training Facilities bordering on unplayable and risking injury which happens a lot, coaching and strength ,conditioning non existent. The biggest issue is the Leads of the Youth Development stages and the ultimate person in charge. These people have the decision making powers and in my opinion are clueless in every way from coaching techniques, administration, planning and organisation.Β All very separate from the First team and first team affairs, until you start to get to scholarship level at u17 u18 and above. Unfortunately its to late by then, which is why I genuinely believe that the Brentford model would work well for us, unless they have a complete review and change in the full time personnel. But in fairness the club have more important and pressing issues with the First team, which I understand. Maybe a Academy Thread would work. When I read your first comment and before I'd even seen this one I was going to reply "sorry your son was let go". Sour grapes.
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Post by LJG on Aug 5, 2021 8:53:40 GMT
Great to see Kingsley and Joe getting squad numbers, a couple of good news stories from the Academy seen them play a few times, 100% deserve a chance. Alfie will also have a great opportunity to learn from some good (unlike last season) experienced players. Just such a shame that there are certain individuals (Staff) at the Academy that are taking the P!*& out of the club and us fans treating it as some personal plaything. I am just losing faith with how we are running the future of the club, I am having a dig at the set up and how its being run not certain players as its not their fault. Some very good players and coaches have left or been released because of the shambles certain elements bring to what should be a very professional set up. I know that Rovers are not alone as it happens in every club. Just very unnecessary for me that we let it happen. Myself being a younger lad, I have had known a couple people in the academy over the years who have been released and the standard of coaching is a joke (their words not mine), saying majority of the time they play on sunday league standard pitched and train on public fields or basic astro turfs, then down the road them lot have all academy facilities for I think under 12s - 18s and a gym. Our academy lads don't get to go a gym with the academy and the coaches are just like normal 40 year old blokes. This was a couple years ago that I was told this by people and I'd seen with my own eyes when watching my mate that it looks a very amateur, underfunded and perhaps neglected. I hope this has changed now but certainly 5 years ago it didn't look good from what I had seen and heard. So my facts there could be completely irrelevant right now, however with what your saying it doesn't surprise me at all. UTG Think that tells its own story.
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