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Post by scottleroc on Aug 8, 2021 18:20:49 GMT
Barton Haters Club! Get behind r Joey or are you a shithead? Don’t be a clown! Someone with a brain cell is allowed an opinion. I was behind Garner, Tisdale less so and behind Barton. I think anyone who doesn’t have have the ability to have an objective viewpoint on any situation lacks class and intelligence. In my opinion, to which I am entitled, I don’t think JB has improved our position greatly. Could that change? Of course it can. I also think it’s immature and naive to call someone a hater or a Shithead if they have a different opinion. If you think JB is doing a great job and things have improved massively since last year you are entitled to your opinion. I wouldn’t call you a Neanderthal for example because you have a blind faith for JB. I would respect your opinion and, as a gas head (since 1978 at Eastville if you are interested) hope you are right. Whoever is manager has my backing whilst here as I want the team to do well. So have a bit of class and empower some of your brain cells👍 I’m going to have to apologise now as I assume you were being sarcastic!!😆😆 I should have read on and taken it in context. I’m getting a bit tetchy!! 👍😬
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Post by LJG on Aug 8, 2021 18:22:08 GMT
Barton Haters Club! Get behind r Joey or are you a shithead? Don’t be a clown! Someone with a brain cell is allowed an opinion. I was behind Garner, Tisdale less so and behind Barton. I think anyone who doesn’t have have the ability to have an objective viewpoint on any situation lacks class and intelligence. In my opinion, to which I am entitled, I don’t think JB has improved our position greatly. Could that change? Of course it can. I also think it’s immature and naive to call someone a hater or a Shithead if they have a different opinion. If you think JB is doing a great job and things have improved massively since last year you are entitled to your opinion. I wouldn’t call you a Neanderthal for example because you have a blind faith for JB. I would respect your opinion and, as a gas head (since 1978 at Eastville if you are interested) hope you are right. Whoever is manager has my backing whilst here as I want the team to do well. So have a bit of class and empower some of your brain cells👍 I agree with you wholeheartedly. Which is why I made the joke.
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Post by gasify on Aug 8, 2021 18:22:10 GMT
I won't give it a rest as I believe that Bristol Rovers deserves better than this thug. If you think a thug with a 15.8% win ratio is good enough, you need to have a word with yourself. So, I ask you directly a question... After 10 games Topper, what league position or number of wins would be acceptable, beyond expectation or he has to go as its unacceptable? You tell me what I should expect, I have set the bar quite low at 5 wins. Unless Wael decides to give fans the power to dismiss the manager then it doesn't really matter what I think, I just find the constant sniping about JB pretty boring given that forum posters have no power how long he remains in a job. Looks like you are gonna find the forum boring then if results don't improve. I will never stop wanting to hold a Rovers manager to account.
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Post by scottleroc on Aug 8, 2021 18:23:09 GMT
Don’t be a clown! Someone with a brain cell is allowed an opinion. I was behind Garner, Tisdale less so and behind Barton. I think anyone who doesn’t have have the ability to have an objective viewpoint on any situation lacks class and intelligence. In my opinion, to which I am entitled, I don’t think JB has improved our position greatly. Could that change? Of course it can. I also think it’s immature and naive to call someone a hater or a Shithead if they have a different opinion. If you think JB is doing a great job and things have improved massively since last year you are entitled to your opinion. I wouldn’t call you a Neanderthal for example because you have a blind faith for JB. I would respect your opinion and, as a gas head (since 1978 at Eastville if you are interested) hope you are right. Whoever is manager has my backing whilst here as I want the team to do well. So have a bit of class and empower some of your brain cells👍 I agree with you wholeheartedly. Which is why I made the joke I did. I now know and my apology has already been posted!! 👍😬
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Post by LJG on Aug 8, 2021 18:23:20 GMT
Don’t be a clown! Someone with a brain cell is allowed an opinion. I was behind Garner, Tisdale less so and behind Barton. I think anyone who doesn’t have have the ability to have an objective viewpoint on any situation lacks class and intelligence. In my opinion, to which I am entitled, I don’t think JB has improved our position greatly. Could that change? Of course it can. I also think it’s immature and naive to call someone a hater or a Shithead if they have a different opinion. If you think JB is doing a great job and things have improved massively since last year you are entitled to your opinion. I wouldn’t call you a Neanderthal for example because you have a blind faith for JB. I would respect your opinion and, as a gas head (since 1978 at Eastville if you are interested) hope you are right. Whoever is manager has my backing whilst here as I want the team to do well. So have a bit of class and empower some of your brain cells👍 I’m going to have to apologise now as I assume you were being sarcastic!!😆😆 I should have read on and taken it in context. I’m getting a bit tetchy!! 👍😬 Nah, easily misread as so many are saying the same in sincerity. No worries.
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Post by LJG on Aug 8, 2021 18:24:15 GMT
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Which is why I made the joke I did. I now know and my apology has already been posted!! 👍😬 We're crossing over in posting our apologies 🤣
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 8, 2021 18:25:04 GMT
LJG. A short while ago you said you had no respect for me which is fine because the feeling is Mutual. Why would I respect somebody who whines on and on about our Manager and almost willing us to do poorly over the first ten games. Thankfully the 1600 odd who made the journey yesterday do not appear to represent the views of a forum that represents... well very little other than a multitude of excuses each season why they wont attend.I think it is mainly true that a forum is made up mainly of those who think they are important but in fact represent a very insignificant portion of the support and are mainly those who want a platform to constantly represent negative vibes.
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Post by gasify on Aug 8, 2021 18:31:48 GMT
Topper. This Cult is a really bizarre phenomenon. We seem to have a manager with one of the worst win ratios a manager has ever had at the club. Yet, there are fans that still seem to think he is the best thing since sliced bread. That is the cult, it's nothing to do with genuine gasheads or not (I do think that was a bit of a swipe at me an the other non believers which was a bit of a cheap shot tbh). It's to do with at what point do we say that this isn't working? After 10 games, if we are 18th does JB remain in a job? Where do those that think the sun shines out of JB arse think we should be in 10 games? Wael has come out and said that promotion is the main aim this season however if we are in a relegation battle again, should JB be in charge for that? I completely understand where your coming from but does anyone seriously believe that the club are going to allow JB to completely revamp the playing squad and then sack him & his backroom team 10 games in if we dont start well ? Even without an upcoming court case that makes no sense but given that a guilty verdict in either case and hes probably gone anyway would Wael really pay up another contract ? Fwiw my own opinion is that we have to stick with him, we cant keep sacking managers and starting over every 6 months. I'm not sure if that makes me a cult member or not !!Completely understand this and I agree which is why I have said give it 10 games and I was 5 wins out of that 10. I don't think that is unreasonable probably not even promotion form. If I was going to wear my heart on my sleave, the bit that I am trying to understand is at what point do we all come together Nd say enough is enough with JB. I will ask you the same question as Topper wanted to avoid answering. At what point do you draw a line? Bottom after 20 games? 10? 15? 15th at Christmas? I really want to understand what our true expectations are of JB.
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Post by gasify on Aug 8, 2021 18:40:56 GMT
LJG. A short while ago you said you had no respect for me which is fine because the feeling is Mutual. Why would I respect somebody who whines on and on about our Manager and almost willing us to do poorly over the first ten games. Thankfully the 1600 odd who made the journey yesterday do not appear to represent the views of a forum that represents... well very little other than a multitude of excuses each season why they wont attend.I think it is mainly true that a forum is made up mainly of those who think they are important but in fact represent a very insignificant portion of the support and are mainly those who want a platform to constantly represent negative vibes. Stevek192. I remember you getting lots of negative comments from forum members when you were doing match reports. Of all people I would expect you to understand that there are different people and different viewpoints in this world. I think some of your comments are intended to belittle and that is not good forum etiquette (cue someone calling me a snowflake). 1600 fans were travelling to Mansfield, not in support of JB but in support of Rovers and the perception that the pandemic is over. Charles Manson could have been our manager with the same result. I think there are plenty out there that don't want JB anywhere near our club and there are a few that won't go to games while he is the manager. I will always support Rovers. I have a season ticket, bought in the knowledge that JB is our manager. My honest wish is that he turns out to be the best manager we have had, takes us to two consecutive promotions and then f**ks off to manager a Premier league team. However, if he does turn out to be sh**. I will be calling for his head coz he would have proved himself to be sh**.
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Post by gasmania on Aug 8, 2021 18:45:04 GMT
Overall, I think my thoughts from yesterday were relatively positive and hopeful.
I'm hoping with the returning forwards and potentially new recruit our attacking will improve a lot. Felt bad for Saunders in the role he was having to play. Bar a few odd ref decisions and couple of strange moments by Anssi and Hughes for both the goals, I didn't think we were seriously troubled too much.
Clearly Coutts red card swung the game, after our equaliser the team looked like it was starting to find it's rhythm a bit, along with the fans.
I was impressed with Hoole, Anderton and Grant. Thought Anderson in the second half started to show what he could do by running the line and getting a few corners/crosses in.
Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am still hopeful at the moment haha
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 8, 2021 18:45:18 GMT
gasify, If you can't make your own decision now then you never will.It is of no relevance what other posters think as the only one that matters is Wael. This forum like most of these groups are generally made up of the more negative supporters who want a platform for their views to have some strength but the truth is that the forums represent a very low percentage of our fanbase and that is just as well. I would say the majority of fans who attend the games have high hopes that JB will have us pushing for promotion this season. When we have all our players available I would hope that we will have a team that is well capable of winning this League. It does not mean that we will do that but IMO if we had the injured players available yesterday we would now have 3 points and be feeling a lot better.
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Post by pirate on Aug 8, 2021 19:00:41 GMT
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Post by oldie on Aug 8, 2021 19:42:18 GMT
Imagine if we were a well run club.
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Post by pirate on Aug 8, 2021 20:05:34 GMT
Imagine if we were a well run club. Ha. If only.
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Post by aghast on Aug 8, 2021 20:27:36 GMT
That really is very impressive, in that context. And Bristol to Mansfield is not an easy trip by any means. So well done all who made the long journey, sadly for little reward, apart from the thrill of seeing real life league football and having a proper away day out again after so long.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 8, 2021 20:33:32 GMT
I completely understand where your coming from but does anyone seriously believe that the club are going to allow JB to completely revamp the playing squad and then sack him & his backroom team 10 games in if we dont start well ? Even without an upcoming court case that makes no sense but given that a guilty verdict in either case and hes probably gone anyway would Wael really pay up another contract ? Fwiw my own opinion is that we have to stick with him, we cant keep sacking managers and starting over every 6 months. I'm not sure if that makes me a cult member or not !!Completely understand this and I agree which is why I have said give it 10 games and I was 5 wins out of that 10. I don't think that is unreasonable probably not even promotion form. If I was going to wear my heart on my sleave, the bit that I am trying to understand is at what point do we all come together Nd say enough is enough with JB. I will ask you the same question as Topper wanted to avoid answering. At what point do you draw a line? Bottom after 20 games? 10? 15? 15th at Christmas? I really want to understand what our true expectations are of JB. Honestly that's a really difficult question to answer. Had JB not been here last season I'd definitely be saying with a complete squad overhaul we should hold our nerve even if we're bottom half come Dec. Bolton showed last year that its possible to come with a late run and still be successful. I'd say performances as well as points will play a part, if after 15 games we aren't exactly where we want to be but there are signs of improvement then I'd stick, I genuinely dont think another roll of the dice is what we need. I'm not sure I've actually answered your question but hopefully after 10 games we've got players fit & a system in place that means this isnt an issue
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 8, 2021 21:01:24 GMT
Another f**k all of a season then. Maybe, although Bolton started off slowly last season due to their circumstances and still won promotion. This is a league where things can change very quickly. We have some decent players coming back, it will take time initially for them to catch up, but they will only add to a team that wasnt really troubled by a strong Mansfield team expected to be right up there. At this point we don't know that Mansfield are a strong side do we? Just like we don't know how we are going to do. What i do know though is their football yesterday was dull (ours was worse) and they looked a typical average middle of the road League 2 side
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 8, 2021 21:25:45 GMT
LJG. A short while ago you said you had no respect for me which is fine because the feeling is Mutual. Why would I respect somebody who whines on and on about our Manager and almost willing us to do poorly over the first ten games. Thankfully the 1600 odd who made the journey yesterday do not appear to represent the views of a forum that represents... well very little other than a multitude of excuses each season why they wont attend.I think it is mainly true that a forum is made up mainly of those who think they are important but in fact represent a very insignificant portion of the support and are mainly those who want a platform to constantly represent negative vibes. Stevek192. I remember you getting lots of negative comments from forum members when you were doing match reports. Of all people I would expect you to understand that there are different people and different viewpoints in this world. I think some of your comments are intended to belittle and that is not good forum etiquette (cue someone calling me a snowflake). 1600 fans were travelling to Mansfield, not in support of JB but in support of Rovers and the perception that the pandemic is over. Charles Manson could have been our manager with the same result. I think there are plenty out there that don't want JB anywhere near our club and there are a few that won't go to games while he is the manager. I will always support Rovers. I have a season ticket, bought in the knowledge that JB is our manager. My honest wish is that he turns out to be the best manager we have had, takes us to two consecutive promotions and then f**ks off to manager a Premier league team. However, if he does turn out to be sh**. I will be calling for his head coz he would have proved himself to be sh**. So what are you hoping to achieve by constantly criticising him on Gaschat and, in my view, creating a negative zibe, is that really going to help the cause?
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Post by LJG on Aug 8, 2021 21:26:18 GMT
LJG. A short while ago you said you had no respect for me which is fine because the feeling is Mutual. Why would I respect somebody who whines on and on about our Manager and almost willing us to do poorly over the first ten games. Thankfully the 1600 odd who made the journey yesterday do not appear to represent the views of a forum that represents... well very little other than a multitude of excuses each season why they wont attend.I think it is mainly true that a forum is made up mainly of those who think they are important but in fact represent a very insignificant portion of the support and are mainly those who want a platform to constantly represent negative vibes. Hi Steve, I don't have no respect for you. It's not true that I said that. You're a human being the same as we are all are and deserving of respect. I don't really have much respect for the things you post because I don't think you can see past your own biases (maybe that's true of us all) - your over negativity towards home grown, local, young players to the point you can't even acknowledge when they've played well (Ollie Clarke had a good game yesterday hey?). And your inability to hear even the mildest criticism of Barton- it's silly. Your post above is a pretty good example of that. The only thing I've said about Barton on this thread is a question which I'll pose to you too: What is it about him that gives him any credibility whatsoever?
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Post by gasify on Aug 8, 2021 21:27:22 GMT
Stevek192. I remember you getting lots of negative comments from forum members when you were doing match reports. Of all people I would expect you to understand that there are different people and different viewpoints in this world. I think some of your comments are intended to belittle and that is not good forum etiquette (cue someone calling me a snowflake). 1600 fans were travelling to Mansfield, not in support of JB but in support of Rovers and the perception that the pandemic is over. Charles Manson could have been our manager with the same result. I think there are plenty out there that don't want JB anywhere near our club and there are a few that won't go to games while he is the manager. I will always support Rovers. I have a season ticket, bought in the knowledge that JB is our manager. My honest wish is that he turns out to be the best manager we have had, takes us to two consecutive promotions and then f**ks off to manager a Premier league team. However, if he does turn out to be sh**. I will be calling for his head coz he would have proved himself to be sh**. So what are you hoping to achieve by constantly criticising him on Gaschat and, in my view, creating a negative zibe, is that really going to help the cause? That if he turns out to be sh**, he is held accountable.
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