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Post by Gassy on Aug 14, 2021 19:53:02 GMT
Hang on a second, are you trying to tell me that GasChat fact, isn’t actually factual? Hahaha ... Now let's not open that can of worms here..lol I've been posting on here while doing other things this afternoon as I couldn't make game.I was sure Sam frost ?? From the post Twitted it out.I might be wrong Tbf whether you like Barton or not, he is certainly not one to shy away from the media. He's been in some pretty big situations, personal and professional, so I would very much doubt that Sam Frost would be too much pressure after losing to Stevenage
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Post by playtowin on Aug 14, 2021 19:54:52 GMT
Thank you for your opinion. Not a problem. Its quite easy. The facts speak for themselves. Exactly.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 14, 2021 19:56:55 GMT
Wow surely you can understand what I am talking about in relation to man management and not players capabilities?? I never said any of the players were good enough I said why would anyone want to play for a manager when he publicly humiliates them !! They are team mates and friends off the pitch as well I would imagine and if someone humiliated my mate I would want to stick up for them as well. Team spirit and confidence is imo a big part of football and success but people like you don't help !! Westbrooke has been rubbish for 3 managers along with a few others who are still here. As for the last comment, go f**k yourself Why is it such a bad thing for the manager to call out players who aren’t delivering? In the same way as he will ultimately carry the can and risk being sacked, so should they, ffs! I can’t stand all this Dam faux outrage and Pearl-clutching whenever Barton speaks his mind - if they’re sh**e, they need to be made aware that they’re sh**e, or they will never stop being sh**e! Why are their psyche’s so delicate and fragile that they need to be coddled and protected from all the hurty words . . ?
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 14, 2021 19:57:08 GMT
Thinking about giving Rovers/football a break for a while, lost a lot of interest whilst we weren’t allowed in the grounds, with all the negativity around the club at the minute it’s not a nice place to be.
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Post by bigal40 on Aug 14, 2021 20:04:05 GMT
Westbrooke has been rubbish for 3 managers along with a few others who are still here. As for the last comment, go f**k yourself Why is it such a bad thing for the manager to call out players who aren’t delivering? In the same way as he will ultimately carry the can and risk being sacked, so should they, ffs! I can’t stand all this Dam faux outrage and Pearl-clutching whenever Barton speaks his mind - if they’re sh**e, they need to be made aware that they’re sh**e, or they will never stop being sh**e! Why are their psyche’s so delicate and fragile that they need to be coddled and protected from all the hurty words . . ? Not sure how old you are but you are missing the point. By all means say you aren't happy but to belittle players and humiliate them in public is completely different. Ask yourself how you would feel and how your wife kids mam dad etc would feel when you say he is meant to be a midfield player or he isn't a midfielder when he has played there all his career . Its very very poor management imo. If im wrong fine, but I have ran a successful company now for over thirty years and if I managed my staff like that I would have went under a long long time ago all be it in a different environment.
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Post by Icegas on Aug 14, 2021 20:04:15 GMT
Hahaha ... Now let's not open that can of worms here..lol I've been posting on here while doing other things this afternoon as I couldn't make game.I was sure Sam frost ?? From the post Twitted it out.I might be wrong Tbf whether you like Barton or not, he is certainly not one to shy away from the media. He's been in some pretty big situations, personal and professional, so I would very much doubt that Sam Frost would be too much pressure after losing to Stevenage In all fairness and without thinking through my statement at the time, that was also my first thought when I heard he had no showed.
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Post by barumgas on Aug 14, 2021 20:08:50 GMT
Don't know if his after match interview was worth listening to, but I can't take anymore of his drivel.
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Post by adrian301 on Aug 14, 2021 20:08:57 GMT
My frustration today, was the woeful passing. The amount of times we gave the ball away was shocking. What do they practise in training?
When in final third, we should be getting the ball in the box....but no, we have to try these intricate triangles that always fail. Pitman aint going outrun defenders from the halfway line, he's going to be looking for knock downs and 2nd balls in the box. Well, he's going to be waiting a long time then!
I remember GC venting his spleen when he took over, of seasoned footballers not able to manage a 10 yard pass, or pass the ball into touch.
Harries tried a full cross pitch pass today....straight into touch. I could see Barton point out to him, play it down the channel, if in doubt. But that should be automatic!-
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 14, 2021 20:10:28 GMT
Why is it such a bad thing for the manager to call out players who aren’t delivering? In the same way as he will ultimately carry the can and risk being sacked, so should they, ffs! I can’t stand all this Dam faux outrage and Pearl-clutching whenever Barton speaks his mind - if they’re sh**e, they need to be made aware that they’re sh**e, or they will never stop being sh**e! Why are their psyche’s so delicate and fragile that they need to be coddled and protected from all the hurty words . . ? Not sure how old you are but you are missing the point. By all means say you aren't happy but to belittle players and humiliate them in public is completely different. Ask yourself how you would feel and how your wife kids mam dad etc would feel when you say he is meant to be a midfield player or he isn't a midfielder when he has played there all his career . Its very very poor management imo. If im wrong fine, but I have ran a successful company now for over thirty years and if I managed my staff like that I would have went under a long long time ago all be it in a different environment. I’m 58 - what’s that got to do with anything?
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Post by socrates on Aug 14, 2021 20:11:41 GMT
anyone know of any No 9;s that signed for a league one club this week ? be interesting to see what calibre we are after Not this week but we sold Ayunga to Morcombe a couple of weeks ago and he set up their winner midweek. How we could have done with him in the middle today, Saunders didn’t get in to the game at all.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2021 20:11:43 GMT
If you are let down badly you can chose to eject the cause of your sadness and anger from your life.Change your job ,partner, etc but with footy you can't do that,you are lumbered. Remember the euphoria that Sat evenings were following a win,well,that's something from a very long time ago. The final league position last season is mirrored by our current position and the awful stadium compared to non league,Kidderminster,Kettering,Chesterfield,Telford,Morpeth etc ,etc simply fill me with despair. Even the Rose Tinters must know we are so far behind most other clubs now,I seriously fear how long the malaise will last and fear where we will be in five years time. Feeling the lack of leadership at Rovers is terminal and the constant disappointments just go on and on. The Brentford story earlier today was thrilling.This evening I wonder why I bother. Even Cantankerous Gas is no-where to be seen on Match days. What "leadership" do you expect at this level, Wael seems a good a leader as any at this level and Barton's had no real issues leading Fleetwood in the past. You keep on posting how fantastic Port Vale's owner is but their start to the season isn't much better than our own.
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Post by pirate on Aug 14, 2021 20:21:46 GMT
Obviously a very poor performance. Similar to pre-season and the Mansfield and Cheltenham games we again struggled to create any real clear cut chances and I can't really remember their keeper having a save to make. Desperately lacking a central midfielder with a bit of guile that can open up a defence and the lack of a number 9 is clear for all to see. Very very disappointing start to the season.
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Post by oldie on Aug 14, 2021 20:22:08 GMT
Not sure how old you are but you are missing the point. By all means say you aren't happy but to belittle players and humiliate them in public is completely different. Ask yourself how you would feel and how your wife kids mam dad etc would feel when you say he is meant to be a midfield player or he isn't a midfielder when he has played there all his career . Its very very poor management imo. If im wrong fine, but I have ran a successful company now for over thirty years and if I managed my staff like that I would have went under a long long time ago all be it in a different environment. I’m 58 - what’s that got to do with anything? Theoretically you should know better.
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Post by brfc on Aug 14, 2021 20:26:05 GMT
anyone know of any No 9;s that signed for a league one club this week ? be interesting to see what calibre we are after Not this week but we sold Ayunga to Morcombe a couple of weeks ago and he set up their winner midweek. How we could have done with him in the middle today, Saunders didn’t get in to the game at all. I see more potential in Ayunga then Saunders.
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Post by bigal40 on Aug 14, 2021 20:35:59 GMT
Not sure how old you are but you are missing the point. By all means say you aren't happy but to belittle players and humiliate them in public is completely different. Ask yourself how you would feel and how your wife kids mam dad etc would feel when you say he is meant to be a midfield player or he isn't a midfielder when he has played there all his career . Its very very poor management imo. If im wrong fine, but I have ran a successful company now for over thirty years and if I managed my staff like that I would have went under a long long time ago all be it in a different environment. I’m 58 - what’s that got to do with anything? 58 !!!! and you think to publicly humiliate your staff is a good motivational tool and the way forward. If you were a young man who is full of passion and adrenaline I could understand but just wow !! My goodness please don't even reply thats incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 20:38:38 GMT
Why is it such a bad thing for the manager to call out players who aren’t delivering? In the same way as he will ultimately carry the can and risk being sacked, so should they, ffs! I can’t stand all this Dam faux outrage and Pearl-clutching whenever Barton speaks his mind - if they’re sh**e, they need to be made aware that they’re sh**e, or they will never stop being sh**e! Why are their psyche’s so delicate and fragile that they need to be coddled and protected from all the hurty words . . ? Not sure how old you are but you are missing the point. By all means say you aren't happy but to belittle players and humiliate them in public is completely different. Ask yourself how you would feel and how your wife kids mam dad etc would feel when you say he is meant to be a midfield player or he isn't a midfielder when he has played there all his career . Its very very poor management imo. If im wrong fine, but I have ran a successful company now for over thirty years and if I managed my staff like that I would have went under a long long time ago all be it in a different environment. What division was your company in? 😁
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 14, 2021 20:41:11 GMT
I’m 58 - what’s that got to do with anything? 58 !!!! and you think to publicly humiliate your staff is a good motivational tool and the way forward. If you were a young man who is full of passion and adrenaline I could understand but just wow !! My goodness please don't even reply thats incredible. Oh my, I’m so, so sorry - I didn’t realise I’m not allowed to have an opinion that differs from yours. If you’d be kind enough to point me in the direction of the stone tablets upon which your orthodoxy is inscribed so I can see what I am and aren’t allowed to think, that would be very helpful.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 14, 2021 20:44:00 GMT
Westbrooke has been rubbish for 3 managers along with a few others who are still here. As for the last comment, go f**k yourself Why is it such a bad thing for the manager to call out players who aren’t delivering? In the same way as he will ultimately carry the can and risk being sacked, so should they, ffs! I can’t stand all this Dam faux outrage and Pearl-clutching whenever Barton speaks his mind - if they’re sh**e, they need to be made aware that they’re sh**e, or they will never stop being sh**e! Why are their psyche’s so delicate and fragile that they need to be coddled and protected from all the hurty words . . ? Agree with this, managers are sacked easily. Players need to step and put a shift in. We didn't see it last season. We are just 2 league games in and we have been lacking. If the manager wants to say we aren't good enough, then I agree with that. And we must do better next game.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2021 20:46:31 GMT
Not this week but we sold Ayunga to Morcombe a couple of weeks ago and he set up their winner midweek. How we could have done with him in the middle today, Saunders didn’t get in to the game at all. I see more potential in Ayunga then Saunders. Is Ayunga injured again as he wasn't in today's squad?
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Post by gasify on Aug 14, 2021 21:21:32 GMT
I see more potential in Ayunga then Saunders. Is Ayunga injured again as he wasn't in today's squad? Ayunga is a league one player and Saunders is a league 2 player.
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