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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 16, 2021 20:02:37 GMT
Point 1. Correct, innocent until proven guilty. His wife hasn't denied though.
Point 3. Sean hasn't found him guilty. Nowhere has he stated or suggested JB is guilty. He just rightfully corrected that his wife didn't deny the assault. That doesn't mean Sean finds him guilty. What a crazy accusation! This bit gets me though... "Whatever way you say it you are clearly in the Barton out camp. I am not,so I will leave it at that and refrain from posting on this thread." So reading this, it looks like you are suggesting that those in the 'Barton out camp' will find JB guilty. Is that right? Another crazy accusation if so!
Point 3. Clevedongas has already found him guilty in the C Town match thread. "He will be gone in November when he is found guilty of one or both charges". His words not mine. That suggests to me he has already decided on his guilt. Almost correct, I have not "found him guilty" but I believe he is guilty as do the police and the CPS. His history and list of previous offences would indicate he has the type of character to do this. It would appear that all this escalated because you have preconceived idea's about this rather than taking my post on face value when I pointed out a non true statement
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Post by alanrg on Sept 8, 2021 10:29:13 GMT
Noticed he has been helping out at our opponents on Saturday Hartlepool United
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Post by lympstonegas on Sept 8, 2021 10:32:28 GMT
Noticed he has been helping out at our opponents on Saturday Hartlepool United Hopefully he’ll set their defence up like he did ours and we will score a few
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Post by legas on Sept 8, 2021 10:34:13 GMT
Clearly travel wasn’t a factor in his ‘family issues’ if as the BEP article suggests he’s based in Birkenhead (Bristol 190 miles away; Hartlepool 170 miles away).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 11:05:31 GMT
Clearly travel wasn’t a factor in his ‘family issues’ if as the BEP article suggests he’s based in Birkenhead (Bristol 190 miles away; Hartlepool 170 miles away). I think most people were able to read between the lines of why he left. It will all come out later in the year.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 8, 2021 11:21:03 GMT
Clearly travel wasn’t a factor in his ‘family issues’ if as the BEP article suggests he’s based in Birkenhead (Bristol 190 miles away; Hartlepool 170 miles away). There's a difference between helping out on a temporary basis 170 miles away and working full time 190 miles away.
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Post by baggins on Sept 8, 2021 11:42:58 GMT
Clearly travel wasn’t a factor in his ‘family issues’ if as the BEP article suggests he’s based in Birkenhead (Bristol 190 miles away; Hartlepool 170 miles away). There's a difference between helping out on a temporary basis 170 miles away and working full time 190 miles away. Temporary? I thought he was on the books as full time with JB?
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Post by titchthephot on Sept 8, 2021 12:01:10 GMT
Point one. Because he is innocent until proven guilty and his wifes denial is good enough for me. Point two. You posted it and Antonio and to a lesser extent twerton agreed with you. That makes more than one when I do the maths. Topper is wrong in your opinion, not mine. Point three. You have clearly found him guilty on this thread and many other threads on here. Whatever way you say it you are clearly in the Barton out camp. I am not,so I will leave it at that and refrain from posting on this thread. It has nothing to do with me being in the Barton out camp (which I am) I would still say she hasn't denied it if I was his greatest fan, because she hasn't! and no matter how many times you say she has, won't make it true I am 100% in the Barton Out camp. As for his upcoming court case the thing to consider is that 1.Someone deemed the incident serious enough to dial 999 - which I assume was his wife. 2. The police will have the recording of that phone call which will be played in court. 3. No-one is denying the police story that upon arriving at the house a woman had a facial injury which the police would have seen. If Mrs Barton changed her story to say that she wasn't hurt then it maybe she was coerced into changing her story and the courts will want to know why she changed her mind. If it wasn't her who phoned the police then another witness must have thought it serious enough to do so. If JB does get away with it, it will probably be because he has a good lawyer and not because he didn't do it. We need rid of this evil man before he destroys our club!
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Post by Congas on Sept 8, 2021 12:13:45 GMT
CH has just started studying for his Pro coaching badge. Maybe that had something to do with his leaving. Who knows.
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Post by yetigas on Sept 8, 2021 12:14:20 GMT
Clearly travel wasn’t a factor in his ‘family issues’ if as the BEP article suggests he’s based in Birkenhead (Bristol 190 miles away; Hartlepool 170 miles away). There's a difference between helping out on a temporary basis 170 miles away and working full time 190 miles away. Yep, 20 miles
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Post by baggins on Sept 8, 2021 12:19:27 GMT
It has nothing to do with me being in the Barton out camp (which I am) I would still say she hasn't denied it if I was his greatest fan, because she hasn't! and no matter how many times you say she has, won't make it true I am 100% in the Barton Out camp. As for his upcoming court case the thing to consider is that 1.Someone deemed the incident serious enough to dial 999 - which I assume was his wife. 2. The police will have the recording of that phone call which will be played in court. 3. No-one is denying the police story that upon arriving at the house a woman had a facial injury which the police would have seen. If Mrs Barton changed her story to say that she wasn't hurt then it maybe she was coerced into changing her story and the courts will want to know why she changed her mind. If it wasn't her who phoned the police then another witness must have thought it serious enough to do so. If JB does get away with it, it will probably be because he has a good lawyer and not because he didn't do it. We need rid of this evil man before he destroys our club! It's a well written rant, but you, me, anybody knows what actually happened. Pure rumour and speculation. In the mean time, he's actually putting a good squad together and getting some decent performances and results together.
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Post by gasfred on Sept 8, 2021 12:33:22 GMT
There are a lot of evil men in this world a certain Mr Pitchfork is now walking our streets I certainly do not think our Joey is an evil man. Get a grip
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 8, 2021 12:45:05 GMT
There's a difference between helping out on a temporary basis 170 miles away and working full time 190 miles away. Yep, 20 miles The distance wasn't the bit I was getting at!
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Post by pirate on Sept 8, 2021 12:45:23 GMT
I am 100% in the Barton Out camp. As for his upcoming court case the thing to consider is that 1.Someone deemed the incident serious enough to dial 999 - which I assume was his wife. 2. The police will have the recording of that phone call which will be played in court. 3. No-one is denying the police story that upon arriving at the house a woman had a facial injury which the police would have seen. If Mrs Barton changed her story to say that she wasn't hurt then it maybe she was coerced into changing her story and the courts will want to know why she changed her mind. If it wasn't her who phoned the police then another witness must have thought it serious enough to do so. If JB does get away with it, it will probably be because he has a good lawyer and not because he didn't do it. We need rid of this evil man before he destroys our club! It's a well written rant, but you, me, anybody knows what actually happened. Pure rumour and speculation. In the mean time, he's actually putting a good squad together and getting some decent performances and results together. Getting some decent performances and results together? I'd argue the only decent performance so far was the first half against crisis club Oldham and the game against Cheltenham's reserve/youths in the tin pot trophy. Other than that we got outplayed by Mansfield with barely a chance created, outplayed and lost vs Stevenage at home, lost the game conceding 4 goals in 25 minutes vs Exeter and couldn't beat a team who finished 21st in League Two last season despite having a man advantage for over an hour.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 8, 2021 12:45:23 GMT
There's a difference between helping out on a temporary basis 170 miles away and working full time 190 miles away. Temporary? I thought he was on the books as full time with JB? Read that again.
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Post by baggins on Sept 8, 2021 12:52:25 GMT
It's a well written rant, but you, me, anybody knows what actually happened. Pure rumour and speculation. In the mean time, he's actually putting a good squad together and getting some decent performances and results together. Getting some decent performances and results together? I'd argue the only decent performance so far was the first half against crisis club Oldham and the game against Cheltenham's reserve/youths in the tin pot trophy. Other than that we got outplayed by Mansfield with barely a chance created, outplayed and lost vs Stevenage at home, lost the game conceding 4 goals in 25 minutes vs Exeter and couldn't beat a team who finished 21st in League Two last season despite having a man advantage for over an hour. As I said, getting better, thought we played well against Crawley.
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Post by baggins on Sept 8, 2021 12:53:18 GMT
Temporary? I thought he was on the books as full time with JB? Read that again. I have. What do you mean by temporary?
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 8, 2021 12:59:47 GMT
I have. What do you mean by temporary? he is referring to Hartlepool being temporary, not when with JB
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Post by baggins on Sept 8, 2021 13:05:41 GMT
I have. What do you mean by temporary? he is referring to Hartlepool being temporary, not when with JB Ah. Ta.
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Post by titchthephot on Sept 8, 2021 13:25:49 GMT
There are a lot of evil men in this world a certain Mr Pitchfork is now walking our streets I certainly do not think our Joey is an evil man. Get a grip It depends if you were on the receiving end of a cigar in your eye, or you were a young lad that was knocked unconscious by him, or you were allegedly given a split lip and the police had to be called, or it depends if you were a visiting manager and got attacked by him....the list goes on and on. Get a grip? The man has serious anger management issues and should never be allowed near a football team. Yes, he is evil and just because he isn't as evil as Mr Pitchfork doesn't make him a nice guy.
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