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Post by darkbluegas on Dec 15, 2021 12:32:41 GMT
What regs, I've not read anything to say capacity has already been reduced? As far as the OP, is finding loopholes to get around COVID rules the right thing to do for fans safety? I’m not going to source this - especially when it’s there for everyone to see at the ground - but due to a combination of footballing body rules and H&S rules supporters are no longer allowed at the bottom of the terraces or at the top of the terraces on the east terrace. Something about not being allowed at pitch level and having to be surrounded by barriers on the terraces. This is why the bottom sections of the east and north terraces are taped off and standing at the top of the east terrace is no longer permitted. I imagine it cuts off a fair amount of capacity. Don’t shoot the messenger. These little snippets are the most positive news in our search for a new stadium or a redeveloped Mem. There will soon become a time when our ground is deemed unfit for human habitation by the authorities. This will then force the issue finally. It can’t be too long before the west stand rusts away and one bout of canvas rot will see the old place shut down for good
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 13:18:08 GMT
I’m not going to source this - especially when it’s there for everyone to see at the ground - but due to a combination of footballing body rules and H&S rules supporters are no longer allowed at the bottom of the terraces or at the top of the terraces on the east terrace. Something about not being allowed at pitch level and having to be surrounded by barriers on the terraces. This is why the bottom sections of the east and north terraces are taped off and standing at the top of the east terrace is no longer permitted. I imagine it cuts off a fair amount of capacity. Don’t shoot the messenger. These little snippets are the most positive news in our search for a new stadium or a redeveloped Mem. There will soon become a time when our ground is deemed unfit for human habitation by the authorities. This will then force the issue finally. It can’t be too long before the west stand rusts away and one bout of canvas rot will see the old place shut down for good Cheaper to fix rust and tents than a new Stadium.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Dec 15, 2021 13:24:48 GMT
www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-coronavirus-covid-19-measures-for-elite-sport/elite-sport-operationsFrom 6am on Wednesday 15th December (subject to the approval of Parliament), certain businesses and some events are required by law to check the COVID status of customers, using the NHS COVID Pass. This includes unseated indoor events with 500 or more attendees, unseated outdoor events with 4,000 or more attendees and any event with 10,000 or more attendees. Only customers who are fully vaccinated or have tested negative in the last 48 hours can be admitted (unless they are exempt from these requirements). Read the guidance on mandatory COVID status checks for organisations for more information. This will mean that a fair few clubs will not need to provide Covid checks. Carlisle ain't one of them: www.worldfootball.net/attendance/eng-league-two-2021-2022/1/ Carlisle can probably get round this because they have a capacity of over 16000, most is seating but also terrace, if they close the terraced area just keep the seating it would bring the capacity down to below 10,000 avoiding need for COVID passes . Unfortunately we don't have enough seating to do that. I am going to contact TG shortly hopefully he will get back to me and confirm things and put an announcement out on the official site. Think it's just a case of wait until we are told. FGR (5000 capacity) have announced those in the seated main stand (2000 seats) need vaccination or negative test results. Those in the terraces don't although they will to go into the bar. Can only guess that this is because the seated area has a covered concourse. If this is the case then the mem actually seems one of the better grounds to go to due to it being open to the elements. Possibly restrictions in the bars. East stand? Lots of seats but no covered communal area
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Post by legas on Dec 15, 2021 13:29:01 GMT
Given the pushing, shoving and general crush to get into the bar at the back of the Thatchers as soon as the half time whistle goes, it will be interesting to see the stewards try to individually check everyone’s vaccination status!
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Post by thegasman on Dec 15, 2021 13:39:30 GMT
Given the pushing, shoving and general crush to get into the bar at the back of the Thatchers as soon as the half time whistle goes, it will be interesting to see the stewards try to individually check everyone’s vaccination status! Surely if vaccination status is checked going into the ground, it doesn't need doing again at half time?
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 13:39:30 GMT
Given the pushing, shoving and general crush to get into the bar at the back of the Thatchers as soon as the half time whistle goes, it will be interesting to see the stewards try to individually check everyone’s vaccination status! They'd have already done that to get in in the first place yes?
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Dec 15, 2021 13:43:41 GMT
Given the pushing, shoving and general crush to get into the bar at the back of the Thatchers as soon as the half time whistle goes, it will be interesting to see the stewards try to individually check everyone’s vaccination status! They'd have already done that to get in in the first place yes? Will people be checked for open terraces though. Should apply for licence to allow BYO. That'd work 😁
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 13:54:03 GMT
They'd have already done that to get in in the first place yes? Will people be checked for open terraces though. Should apply for licence to allow BYO. That'd work 😁 It's all crap.
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Post by legas on Dec 15, 2021 15:08:27 GMT
Given the pushing, shoving and general crush to get into the bar at the back of the Thatchers as soon as the half time whistle goes, it will be interesting to see the stewards try to individually check everyone’s vaccination status! They'd have already done that to get in in the first place yes? Thought someone was suggesting not needed to get onto a terrace but would be for the bar. Anyway, since I’m not drinking at the moment I’m not even sure why I’m posting about it!
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2021 15:28:35 GMT
I'm not sure I understand why this is a major issue. If people refuse vaccinations (other than for medical exemptions) they will have to accept they cannot attend various locations whilst the rules are in place. Looking at the queues for jabs, I think it's fair to say a lot of the refuseniks have quickly changed their minds - exactly as happened when France introduced Covid passports. Also I'm pretty sure Rovers WILL have to use the passports as a condition of entry as our standing crowd is well in excess of 4,000. According to the Evil Post, 85% of 'teds who were polled said they would continue attending games and showing passports and I would imagine a similar percentage of Gasheads would say the same thing. The Nuremburg code prohibits medical procedures without consent. To exclude people from certain parts of society without a vaccine is coercion and coercion is not consent. We must uphold the Nuremburg code at all costs. Glad to see no other posters are agreeing with your nonsense, imagine the state of the country if none us had been vaccinated.
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Post by axegas on Dec 15, 2021 15:32:46 GMT
Apologies guys I didn’t mean to start a debate about vaccines. Just posted it to raise awareness of what other EFL clubs our size were doing in order to cut costs and reduce pressure on stewards. Had my booster shot this morning and I’m feeling fine FWIW.
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Post by SleepyGas on Dec 15, 2021 15:35:27 GMT
They'd have already done that to get in in the first place yes? Thought someone was suggesting not needed to get onto a terrace but would be for the bar. Anyway, since I’m not drinking at the moment I’m not even sure why I’m posting about it! I think only those who can prove they have been double/triple jabbed should be allowed in the bar.. might be quieter and I'll have time for 2 pints without missing any of the 2nd half
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Post by xenongas on Dec 15, 2021 15:39:23 GMT
Thought someone was suggesting not needed to get onto a terrace but would be for the bar. Anyway, since I’m not drinking at the moment I’m not even sure why I’m posting about it! I think only those who can prove they have been double/triple jabbed should be allowed in the bar.. might be quieter and I'll have time for 2 pints without missing any of the 2nd half I fully support this! I don't usually bother trying to squeeze a pint in at half time but fancied it on Saturday. First time I've experienced that crush to get through to the Thatchers bar. I'm amazed at how people behave just to be first at the bar.
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Dec 15, 2021 15:46:56 GMT
I think only those who can prove they have been double/triple jabbed should be allowed in the bar.. might be quieter and I'll have time for 2 pints without missing any of the 2nd half I fully support this! I don't usually bother trying to squeeze a pint in at half time but fancied it on Saturday. First time I've experienced that crush to get through to the Thatchers bar. I'm amazed at how people behave just to be first at the bar. I often question why I chose to go into the bar at half time every single game.
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Post by baggins on Dec 15, 2021 16:40:55 GMT
They'd have already done that to get in in the first place yes? Thought someone was suggesting not needed to get onto a terrace but would be for the bar. Anyway, since I’m not drinking at the moment I’m not even sure why I’m posting about it! So have a few drinks and then post? Works for me.
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Post by BelieveItWhenIAmSatInIt on Dec 15, 2021 16:45:17 GMT
Were you in the hospital handing out your brown envelopes few weeks back Pirate?
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Post by Okebournegas on Dec 15, 2021 20:39:56 GMT
I’m not vaccinated, got Covid and was quite ill with it. I gave it serious thought about getting the vaccine but I’ve decided to stick with my original thought , not to get it. I’m not ruling it out forever but at present I still don’t want it. I’m happy to provide LFT results where necessary and if that’s not good enough I’m also happy to not enter establishments where proof of vaccine is required. My wife and my two children are also not vaccinated and are happy to deal with the consequences of not being so.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 15, 2021 20:41:40 GMT
I think only those who can prove they have been double/triple jabbed should be allowed in the bar.. might be quieter and I'll have time for 2 pints without missing any of the 2nd half I fully support this! I don't usually bother trying to squeeze a pint in at half time but fancied it on Saturday. First time I've experienced that crush to get through to the Thatchers bar. I'm amazed at how people behave just to be first at the bar. I normally stand up the back of the Thatcher End, right next to the door for the bar, makes me laugh watching the scramble begin at around the 35 minute mark. Not sure why they have to wait until half time to open the doors?
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Post by wertongas on Dec 16, 2021 8:18:20 GMT
I have heard back from Tom G on the Sutton game , he says the club are taking guidance from the health and safety advisory group and will make an announcement on COVID restrictions and requirements after the Scunthorpe game , this is to make sure there is no confusion by fans between the two games. What ever the rules are for the Sutton game are likely to cover other home games for the foreseeable future.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 16, 2021 12:12:50 GMT
I’ve seen that a few clubs have reduced their capacity to 9.999 now, even Bournemouth in the Championship.
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