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Post by gasify on May 16, 2022 21:41:23 GMT
I think it's a shame that we still live in a world where you have to officially come out and it isn't possible to just be you and be accepted. I think he's done well and I hope it makes people's lives in football easier. I agree, however there are are tabloid newspapers that would be rubbing their hands with breaking a news story about a gay footballer. The boy had to announce this to take the 'power' away from the tabloids and as he says, it's his story.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 17, 2022 5:19:54 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance.
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Post by gashead79 on May 17, 2022 6:22:50 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance. Interesting last few points. It's worth pointing out that there are a few countries in the world where homosexuality is illegal. There are some where it is punishable by the death penalty. In the UK, we welcome guests, tourists and business from all of the world and our footballing institutions have players, supporters and even investment from countries such as Nigeria and the UAE to name 2. We also have many different practising religions here in the UK. So whilst we encourage equality and respect across the board in this country, there is also a conflict with people who have other beliefs, laws and traditions. Sometimes you don't need to 'educate ignorant people' at all, rather accept that there are different people in the world with different views as a result of their various backgrounds.
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Post by bluegas on May 17, 2022 7:57:40 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance. I have to ask myself that if that bigot is standing near me, will I challenge /confront him? (I have a gay son BTW.)
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Post by oldie on May 17, 2022 8:04:21 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance. Interesting last few points. It's worth pointing out that there are a few countries in the world where homosexuality is illegal. There are some where it is punishable by the death penalty. In the UK, we welcome guests, tourists and business from all of the world and our footballing institutions have players, supporters and even investment from countries such as Nigeria and the UAE to name 2. We also have many different practising religions here in the UK. So whilst we encourage equality and respect across the board in this country, there is also a conflict with people who have other beliefs, laws and traditions. Sometimes you don't need to 'educate ignorant people' at all, rather accept that there are different people in the world with different views as a result of their various backgrounds. True But then it comes down to values. What do we value in our society and should we accept those values being subverted or "devalued" by those that do not share them?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 17, 2022 8:28:48 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance. I have to ask myself that if that bigot is standing near me, will I challenge /confront him? (I have a gay son BTW.) I'd like to think that you wouldn't be a lone voice, if this happened.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 17, 2022 8:47:33 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance. Interesting last few points. It's worth pointing out that there are a few countries in the world where homosexuality is illegal. There are some where it is punishable by the death penalty. In the UK, we welcome guests, tourists and business from all of the world and our footballing institutions have players, supporters and even investment from countries such as Nigeria and the UAE to name 2. We also have many different practising religions here in the UK. So whilst we encourage equality and respect across the board in this country, there is also a conflict with people who have other beliefs, laws and traditions. Sometimes you don't need to 'educate ignorant people' at all, rather accept that there are different people in the world with different views as a result of their various backgrounds. Fair enough, i did not use the right language there, i do believe every one should be who they want to be, believe what they want to and it is not for me to try and change them as long as those beliefs and there way of life does not involve behaviour which causes folk with different values hurt or anguish, at least i think that's what i mean!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 11:17:33 GMT
Haven't clicked an article about it and won't be, I'm interested in football not footballers private lives, shag a doll for all I care.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 17, 2022 15:28:57 GMT
Good luck to the lad, obviously a big thing for him, thankfully it's a sign of the times that my reaction is neither, shock, horror, or any other negative emotion, just 'que ,sera, sera, ' , media should not make this a big story BUT they will, sure 99% of fans will judge him on his ability not his sexual orientation, there will always be one in the crowd , just as there is always one racist, or any other kind of bigot, up to the rest of us to educate them and rid them of there ignorance.I think his biggest test will be the reaction of opposition players and maybe even some of his own teammates
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Post by Big Jock on May 17, 2022 16:11:21 GMT
Jake Daniels will be a name mentioned a lot in th coming years an maybe jes one of th biggest influencers of this generation.
I wish th lad good fortune an hope many others follow suit.
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Post by fintanstack on May 17, 2022 16:42:03 GMT
Jake Daniels will be a name mentioned a lot in th coming years an maybe jes one of th biggest influencers of this generation. I wish th lad good fortune an hope many others follow suit. But only if they are gay. A slightly more cynical thought has occurred to me that some clubs may be in a hurry to be seen as inclusive and cash in on this situation. I hope that players only come out if they want to and for absolutely no other reason.
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Post by The Equaliser on May 17, 2022 16:43:51 GMT
Well done Jake.
A pioneer of that there is no doubt and a big step forward for football in our country I hope.
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Post by herbertblake on May 17, 2022 16:55:50 GMT
Good sponsorship opportunity for him with a whiskey company sponsoring him at Blackpool.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 17, 2022 20:34:27 GMT
Jake Daniels will be a name mentioned a lot in th coming years an maybe jes one of th biggest influencers of this generation. I wish th lad good fortune an hope many others follow suit. Yo Jock, thought you were in Spain with Rangers, every other Scot seems to be, gonna be a great atmosphere, ! best of luck to them!
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Post by Big Jock on May 17, 2022 20:48:05 GMT
Jake Daniels will be a name mentioned a lot in th coming years an maybe jes one of th biggest influencers of this generation. I wish th lad good fortune an hope many others follow suit. Yo Jock, thought you were in Spain with Rangers, every other Scot seems to be, gonna be a great atmosphere, ! best of luck to them! Thanks pal, thatβs appreciated ππΌ Literally ma 4th cup final in just a few weeks, I literally havnae been sober for weeks πβ¦. Gas v Port Vale .. Cup final (well sort of) Gers v R B Leipzig . . Cup final (semi, but yous know what I mean) Gas v Scunny . . Cup final π Gers v Frankfurt. . π¬π§ Come on th Queens Eleven! πͺπΌ still ta comeβ¦ Gers v Jam Tarts . . Scootish Cup final thank chuffkk for the magnificent seven! Otherwise 3 more chuffkkers May have seen me off wit alcohol oblivion π one bonus for tomorrow, it looks like Roofe has travelled after being injured las few weeks, judging by his tweet from th plane ππΌ
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 17, 2022 21:27:24 GMT
No Surrender π
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