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Post by straighouttabristol on Jun 10, 2022 15:48:28 GMT
Wasn’t GC very keen on Payne and was disappointed when he left Huddersfield for Lincoln? Payne is admired by a few managers, amazing how BG managed to sign some good players for Swindle but when he bought in players for us most of them were crap and he never tried to entice any of them to go to Swindle when he took over there. Maybe they weren’t his signings maybe they were widdringtons? I’m not claiming to know btw
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Post by lavalamp on Jun 10, 2022 16:02:20 GMT
Payne is admired by a few managers, amazing how BG managed to sign some good players for Swindle but when he bought in players for us most of them were crap and he never tried to entice any of them to go to Swindle when he took over there. Maybe they weren’t his signings maybe they were widdringtons? I’m not claiming to know btw Garnerball signed no-one, Widdrington was director of football at Rovers and Ben Chorley was director of football at Swindon and so both were in charge of recruitment. At Rovers he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag, but he lucked out with some of Ben Chroley's signings at Swindon.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 10, 2022 16:14:44 GMT
Maybe they weren’t his signings maybe they were widdringtons? I’m not claiming to know btw Garnerball signed no-one, Widdrington was director of football at Rovers and Ben Chorley was director of football at Swindon and so both were in charge of recruitment. At Rovers he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag, but he lucked out with some of Ben Chroley's signings at Swindon. Pretty certain Wriddington was Head of Recruitment when Garner was here, he was only promoted to DoF following Garner's departure. Wriddington always insisted it was BG's idea to only recruit 3 strikers, Hanlan, Ayunga and Daly, when he considered we needed 1 more.
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 10, 2022 16:35:02 GMT
Maybe they weren’t his signings maybe they were widdringtons? I’m not claiming to know btw Garnerball signed no-one, Widdrington was director of football at Rovers and Ben Chorley was director of football at Swindon and so both were in charge of recruitment. At Rovers he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag, but he lucked out with some of Ben Chroley's signings at Swindon. No. Tommy W was only made DOF when Tisdale was appointed. When Garner was there Tommy W was responsible for signings but not DOF. UTG! edit: Sorry Topper, just seen your post that I repeated.
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Post by Quarters on Jun 10, 2022 16:38:52 GMT
Thought the understanding was that Widdrington supplied list of names that met the managers requirements. The Manager then decided who he signed and could look outside that list. As Topper said earlier Westbrooke signed because of the presentation by the manager.
Just maybe Garner learned a bit more about other qualities needed when signing players in his second stint.
What ever happened during his period there were mistakes made by those involved. It's all change at the club, lets see what this season brings.
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Post by lavalamp on Jun 10, 2022 17:38:30 GMT
Garnerball signed no-one, Widdrington was director of football at Rovers and Ben Chorley was director of football at Swindon and so both were in charge of recruitment. At Rovers he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag, but he lucked out with some of Ben Chroley's signings at Swindon. No. Tommy W was only made DOF when Tisdale was appointed. When Garner was there Tommy W was responsible for signings but not DOF. UTG! edit: Sorry Topper, just seen your post that I repeated. Whichever way you both want to look at it, can you name one succesful player that Garnerball actually signed? I can't. His time here was an unmitigated disaster and he sure lucked out with Ben Chorley's signings at Swindon. Widdrington I have no time for either...or Starnes for that matter.
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Jun 10, 2022 17:47:28 GMT
Post by Quarters on Jun 10, 2022 17:47:28 GMT
No. Tommy W was only made DOF when Tisdale was appointed. When Garner was there Tommy W was responsible for signings but not DOF. UTG! edit: Sorry Topper, just seen your post that I repeated. Whichever way you both want to look at it, can you name one succesful player that Garnerball actually signed? I can't. His time here was an unmitigated disaster and he sure lucked out with Ben Chorley's signings at Swindon. Widdrington I have no time for either...or Starnes for that matter. Grant. DI'd he give Hoole a contract?
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 10, 2022 19:15:15 GMT
No. Tommy W was only made DOF when Tisdale was appointed. When Garner was there Tommy W was responsible for signings but not DOF. UTG! edit: Sorry Topper, just seen your post that I repeated. Whichever way you both want to look at it, can you name one succesful player that Garnerball actually signed? I can't. His time here was an unmitigated disaster and he sure lucked out with Ben Chorley's signings at Swindon. Widdrington I have no time for either...or Starnes for that matter. Hang on, you were saying he was DOF. He wasn’t, that’s my point. As for players signed, not sure you mean TW or BG but I can think of Grant and Sammy N in BGs time and plenty other decent players before when TW was head of recruitment, JCH and Ogogo (and Jamal Blackman?) and Leahy wasn’t bad. Btw I’m not disagreeing with your basic point but I do get annoyed when people say TW as DOF was the reason..... He was only DOF when Tis was appointed. If people are going to make him the scapegoat at least make sure it’s accurate! 😉 UTG!
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Jun 10, 2022 19:53:46 GMT
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Post by stapletongas on Jun 10, 2022 19:53:46 GMT
So, here looking for news on Evans and I appear to have walked into the Garner thread instead?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jun 10, 2022 20:09:20 GMT
So, here looking for news on Evans and I appear to have walked into the Garner thread instead? Ha ha! Imagine the meltdown if Evans signed for Garner at Charlton!
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Jun 10, 2022 20:16:41 GMT
Post by warehamgas on Jun 10, 2022 20:16:41 GMT
So, here looking for news on Evans and I appear to have walked into the Garner thread instead? Yeh. Sorry!☹️ UTG!
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Post by pirate on Jun 10, 2022 23:23:55 GMT
Thought the understanding was that Widdrington supplied list of names that met the managers requirements. The Manager then decided who he signed and could look outside that list. As Topper said earlier Westbrooke signed because of the presentation by the manager. Just maybe Garner learned a bit more about other qualities needed when signing players in his second stint. What ever happened during his period there were mistakes made by those involved. It's all change at the club, lets see what this season brings. Just a coincidence that Widdrington was heavily involved in scouting Westbrooke before he signed for Coventry. The Timmy Abraham signing was certainly agreed before Garner was anywhere near the club, as was acknowledged at the time. I wonder how many others in that bracket?
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Jun 10, 2022 23:28:03 GMT
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Post by Gashead73 on Jun 10, 2022 23:28:03 GMT
Looks like he won't sign I guess, shame tbh but no one player is bigger than the club
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Evans
Jun 13, 2022 9:04:11 GMT
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jun 13, 2022 9:04:11 GMT
Looks like he’s gone then, very strange if he decides to sign for a league 2 club as rumoured.
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Jun 13, 2022 9:05:44 GMT
Post by percy on Jun 13, 2022 9:05:44 GMT
Looks like he’s gone then, very strange if he decides to sign for a league 2 club as rumoured. Based on what? We have to accepts some players will go to Wrexham / Salford purely for the cash. Would be surprised if Evo can't get better in Lg1 or even Champs tho
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Post by axegas on Jun 13, 2022 9:29:02 GMT
Looks like he’s gone then, very strange if he decides to sign for a league 2 club as rumoured. Based on what? We have to accepts some players will go to Wrexham / Salford purely for the cash. Would be surprised if Evo can't get better in Lg1 or even Champs tho Wrexham/Salford/Stockport are also based a lot closer to where he lives. I don’t think you can blame a player for moving somewhere that he’ll be closer to his family and earning more money, that’s just life.
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Post by gasmania on Jun 13, 2022 9:34:27 GMT
Looks like he’s gone then, very strange if he decides to sign for a league 2 club as rumoured. Where have you seen this? Haven't noticed any speculation about where he might go, thought that might be a positive for us!
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Jun 13, 2022 9:40:02 GMT
Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Jun 13, 2022 9:40:02 GMT
More fool him if he wants to stick in L2.
Still hoping he will re-sign, but the longer it drags out the less optimistic I am.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jun 13, 2022 9:49:03 GMT
Looks like he’s gone then, very strange if he decides to sign for a league 2 club as rumoured. What rumour ? I have had a look and can find nothing.
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Jun 13, 2022 9:56:34 GMT
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 13, 2022 9:56:34 GMT
Thought the understanding was that Widdrington supplied list of names that met the managers requirements. The Manager then decided who he signed and could look outside that list. As Topper said earlier Westbrooke signed because of the presentation by the manager. Just maybe Garner learned a bit more about other qualities needed when signing players in his second stint. What ever happened during his period there were mistakes made by those involved. It's all change at the club, lets see what this season brings. Just a coincidence that Widdrington was heavily involved in scouting Westbrooke before he signed for Coventry. The Timmy Abraham signing was certainly agreed before Garner was anywhere near the club, as was acknowledged at the time. I wonder how many others in that bracket? If Widdrington was in charge is signings, how come we signed different types of player's under Coughlan than Garner?? Both managers worked with Widdrington. Yet under Coughlan we signed player's like Ogoggo and JCH who were more physical. Garner spoke about player's like Barrett and Daly and said how he had followed their careers etc. Obviously Widdrington has to take a lot of blame as well, as he was heavily involved as well. But don't get Widdrington taking all the blame. You can clearly see that the managers were having a big say as well. They have all gone now anyway. So let's move on. Anyone heard any rumours regarding Evans?? Still hoping he signs. We normally get a lot of news, as the players return to pre season. As media teams are around and we need player's to train with😂
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