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Post by Quarters on Aug 5, 2022 9:36:02 GMT
How do you know it’s incompetence - unless of course you know the facts and you can enlighten us all. I’m sure the primary shareholder knows the facts and is in agreement. Exactly - like I said elsewhere, none of the people commenting on the contract situation have any idea how that contract is structured, unless they happen to be either TC or his agent. I do feel for the bloke having to find another club, but that is something that happens frequently these days, unfortunately. So let’s just see what happens next . . . Frequently? After playing one game into an extension, not sure that happens frequently! The Westbrooke situation is more the norm.
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Post by legas on Aug 5, 2022 9:51:09 GMT
No Rossiter for tomorrow though. After last weeks showing, wonderful news! didn’t think he was that bad, but agree he wasn’t great! Think we might have to suffer some poor results before the window closes. In true Buckle style, I’ve already got my kids to lower their expectations!
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2022 10:03:54 GMT
After last weeks showing, wonderful news! didn’t think he was that bad, but agree he wasn’t great! Think we might have to suffer some poor results before the window closes. In true Buckle style, I’ve already got my kids to lower their expectations! well Joey has come out and promised we will have enough to stay up
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Post by Claremont Gas on Aug 5, 2022 11:17:16 GMT
After last weeks showing, wonderful news! didn’t think he was that bad, but agree he wasn’t great! Think we might have to suffer some poor results before the window closes. In true Buckle style, I’ve already got my kids to lower their expectations! To be fair to Rossiter he started the game against FGR carrying a hamstring niggle and only played because Sam Finley was out ... he then has to put in a double shift because JB has decided to give 'Will of the Wisp Westbrooke' a run out and of course he does nothing... JB wants to try and win the game so leaves Rossiter on and his niggle becomes more serious and he is now out for the next two / three games at least ... No surprise he wasn't at his best but the guy took one for the team and should be applauded in my book. If we can get him fit and we have the medical team to do it he will potentially be great for us.
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Post by gulfofaden on Aug 5, 2022 11:22:29 GMT
We all have something to bring to this conversation, however, I believe that the best things that those sticking knives into the man who got us promoted to national and worldwide acclaim can bring to this conversation is silence.
Don’t forget you laughed when he said he would get us promoted, in the words of Sir Nigel “you’re not laughing now, are you”!
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Post by trueblur4u on Aug 5, 2022 12:32:11 GMT
Joe is simply getting rid of the dead wood, although it wouldn't be that suprising if more were to follow. This is a manager with very little sentiment. With Joe we trust. UTG.
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Post by popuppirate on Aug 5, 2022 12:43:38 GMT
Haven't read the whole thread, but I thought something was afoot with Clarke on Saturday. Don't know whether it wasn't heeding tactical advice or something else but it was clear that some of the players (Evans notibly, in his role as Captain) weren't impressed by something Clarke was or wasn't doing. We'll probably never know, and although he looked decent going forwards (in the first 20 minutes or so) he was getting some looks/gestures in his direction that seemed to indicate he wasn't doing what he'd been asked. I just hope we're able to get a replacement before too long, as at the start of the season it was defence that worried me the most in terms of depth.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 5, 2022 12:53:39 GMT
Haven't read the whole thread, but I thought something was afoot with Clarke on Saturday. Don't know whether it wasn't heeding tactical advice or something else but it was clear that some of the players (Evans notibly, in his role as Captain) weren't impressed by something Clarke was or wasn't doing. We'll probably never know, and although he looked decent going forwards (in the first 20 minutes or so) he was getting some looks/gestures in his direction that seemed to indicate he wasn't doing what he'd been asked. I just hope we're able to get a replacement before too long, as at the start of the season it was defence that worried me the most in terms of depth. Think you’ve probably hit the nail on the head and I was going to write similar ( I didn’t because I wasn’t at the game !) . Players can look to the crowd to have had a good game but if they’re not carrying out the specific instructions of the manager it can mess up the game plan. If as a fullback you’re told to stick to a rigid back four but you go bombing down the line playing like a winger it might look great on the eye but it leaves holes at the back.
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Post by eric on Aug 5, 2022 12:57:29 GMT
Your reasoning grows more bizarre with each post. Are you seriously suggesting a player has his career evaluated on the basis of one game? Christ, on that basis Jason Roberts would have been sacked almost immediately. Let's not just continuously deflect from the point. Barton's judgement is highly questionable. This farce is just one more example. I can imagine you were cheering Joeys team on as BRFC were promoted back to division 1 ? What is the farce ? we are only one game in to a new season and you are moaning. You’re assuming everyone on here attends and supports the team 🤔!!!
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Post by eric on Aug 5, 2022 12:59:00 GMT
No Rossiter for tomorrow though. After last weeks showing, wonderful news! I remember the same sort of thing being said this time last season after Coutts’ first game.
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 5, 2022 13:18:11 GMT
After last weeks showing, wonderful news! I remember the same sort of thing being said this time last season after Coutts’ first game. Not from these fingertips, Coutts was actually alright on the day. Just felt like belting someone in the ear in the last minute yards from the ref😄Rossiter was genuinely terrible against the Vegans. He’ll come good, if he can stay fit for more than a fortnight.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 5, 2022 13:20:01 GMT
After last weeks showing, wonderful news! I remember the same sort of thing being said this time last season after Coutts’ first game. Coutts isnt made of friable asbestos though, thats the difference
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Post by eric on Aug 5, 2022 13:23:54 GMT
I remember the same sort of thing being said this time last season after Coutts’ first game. Not from these fingertips, Coutts was actually alright on the day. Just felt like belting someone in the ear in the last minute yards from the ref😄Rossiter was genuinely terrible against the Vegans. He’ll come good, if he can stay fit for more than a fortnight. I recall Coutts was getting a lot of stick on here for at least the first month. If Rossiter was the selfish type he could have just said he wasn’t fit to play - instead he showed he’s a team player and played when not 100% fit which was his detriment. Like Coutts he’ll now have to win some fans over during the coming weeks and months.
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Post by dudelebowski on Aug 5, 2022 13:29:23 GMT
Not from these fingertips, Coutts was actually alright on the day. Just felt like belting someone in the ear in the last minute yards from the ref😄Rossiter was genuinely terrible against the Vegans. He’ll come good, if he can stay fit for more than a fortnight. I recall Coutts was getting a lot of stick on here for at least the first month. If Rossiter was the selfish type he could have just said he wasn’t fit to play - instead he showed he’s a team player and played when not 100% fit which was his detriment. Like Coutts he’ll now have to win some fans over during the coming weeks and months. Ah he’s only had one ropey 90mins. Coutts was terrible well into november & now I love him like a son😄😄😄
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Post by SleepyGas on Aug 5, 2022 13:55:07 GMT
Joe is simply getting rid of the dead wood, although it wouldn't be that suprising if more were to follow. This is a manager with very little sentiment. With Joe we trust. UTG. Dead wood that Joey signed and then extended their contract for 2 years? Makes sense...
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 5, 2022 14:10:23 GMT
if the level has dropped .calling him out and getting rid is the way forward. Your reasoning grows more bizarre with each post. Are you seriously suggesting a player has his career evaluated on the basis of one game? Christ, on that basis Jason Roberts would have been sacked almost immediately. Let's not just continuously deflect from the point. Barton's judgement is highly questionable. This farce is just one more example. It looks as though Trevor Clarke has been evaluated quite heavily. It looks as though he hasn't taken any information in and doesn't seem to follow any team instructions. He played on Saturday because of the sad situation with Nick Anderton and Josh Grant being injured. Joey Barton has openly admitted he made a mistake giving him a 2 year deal. It's a completely different scenario to Jason Roberts, who was only about 19 when he signed, who clearly had loads of potential. Trevor Clarke is 24. Now JB has explained the situation, I now understand why Trevor Clarke is surplus to requirements. If he consistently doesn't follow team intructions or what the manager is telling him to do then it makes perfect sense. I take it you feel Bartons judgement was highly questionable after the signings of Belshaw, Coutts, Finley, Anthony Evans, Harry Anderson and Aaron Collins? Actually the fact you've already said you think the loan signing of Eliott Anderson was just luck, makes me think you won't give him any credit whatsoever. I've changed my mind over Barton, simply because he's done what he said he would and got us promoted, by playing great stuff and the overwhelming majority of his signings have been absolute gems. It seems some people, i.e yourself, are unable to do that.
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Post by bidefordgas on Aug 5, 2022 14:18:51 GMT
Good article by Sam Frost on Bristol live this afternoon with an in depth interview with Joey as to why Clarke has been let go. No doubt someone who knows how can post the link.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 5, 2022 14:26:52 GMT
Good article by Sam Frost on Bristol live this afternoon with an in depth interview with Joey as to why Clarke has been let go. No doubt someone who knows how can post the link. Barton On Clarke exit
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2022 14:48:06 GMT
Good article by Sam Frost on Bristol live this afternoon with an in depth interview with Joey as to why Clarke has been let go. No doubt someone who knows how can post the link. So just burying Clarke even further. If he want to let him go, fine. His decision, but is there any need to just complete trash the bloke
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 5, 2022 14:55:31 GMT
Good article by Sam Frost on Bristol live this afternoon with an in depth interview with Joey as to why Clarke has been let go. No doubt someone who knows how can post the link. So just burying Clarke even further. If he want to let him go, fine. His decision, but is there any need to just complete trash the bloke I wouldn't say he's completely 'trashed' him. I think these are actually pretty reasonable explanations. 'He’s a good kid," Barton said when explaining his decision. "He just can’t play the position how I want it played. Last year, we didn’t see a lot of him due to his physical state. "He came in this summer after the back end of the season and he got the bit between his teeth and he was saying he really wanted to get after it in the summer and the off-season. He’s come back in and he’s had a lot of reps because we’ve been light in that position with Josh (Grant) being unavailable. "For me, he just doesn’t fill me with trust going forward. If I’m honest, I don’t trust him. I don’t think he’s the right component for us. We want to pass out, we want to play, and he’s not that type of full-back' I don't see anything wrong with what Bartons saying, a pretty clear explanation for those wondering why.
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