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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 5, 2022 14:56:57 GMT
Good article by Sam Frost on Bristol live this afternoon with an in depth interview with Joey as to why Clarke has been let go. No doubt someone who knows how can post the link. So just burying Clarke even further. If he want to let him go, fine. His decision, but is there any need to just complete trash the bloke I still dont know what Barton knows now that he didnt know 2 months ago, or even throughout the year prior to that? Ok so he didnt see much of him due to his physical state, so why give him a new 2 year deal!?
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2022 14:59:47 GMT
So just burying Clarke even further. If he want to let him go, fine. His decision, but is there any need to just complete trash the bloke I wouldn't say he's completely 'trashed' him. I think these are actually pretty reasonable explanations. 'He’s a good kid," Barton said when explaining his decision. "He just can’t play the position how I want it played. Last year, we didn’t see a lot of him due to his physical state. "He came in this summer after the back end of the season and he got the bit between his teeth and he was saying he really wanted to get after it in the summer and the off-season. He’s come back in and he’s had a lot of reps because we’ve been light in that position with Josh (Grant) being unavailable. "For me, he just doesn’t fill me with trust going forward. If I’m honest, I don’t trust him. I don’t think he’s the right component for us. We want to pass out, we want to play, and he’s not that type of full-back' I don't see anything wrong with what Bartons saying, a pretty clear explanation for those wondering why. I mean this is pretty much a dis he could probably play in the League of Ireland, he’s probably got enough ability to play there.
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Post by fanboy on Aug 5, 2022 15:01:55 GMT
So just burying Clarke even further. If he want to let him go, fine. His decision, but is there any need to just complete trash the bloke I still dont know what Barton knows now that he didnt know 2 months ago, or even throughout the year prior to that? Ok so he didnt see much of him due to his physical state, so why give him a new 2 year deal!? To be fair, as much as everyone likes to paint Joey as a basket case, he has openly said he made a mistake here and holds his hands up.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 5, 2022 15:03:54 GMT
Seems to be calling him 'a problem' too;
"He’s obviously done well in the League of Ireland and he could pop back out there, but that will be somebody else’s problem and he won’t go forward with us."
Maybe im reading too much into that though!!
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Post by mftc on Aug 5, 2022 15:08:02 GMT
Re the youngsters are Heal and Egan being let go, or just given the opportunity to get loans for experience?
I thought Egan was highly rated and played well beyond his years at Hereford last season.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 5, 2022 15:09:28 GMT
I still dont know what Barton knows now that he didnt know 2 months ago, or even throughout the year prior to that? Ok so he didnt see much of him due to his physical state, so why give him a new 2 year deal!? To be fair, as much as everyone likes to paint Joey as a basket case, he has openly said he made a mistake here and holds his hands up. It's a pretty big mistake though, giving a player an extended contract when they have been injured or suspended for much of the first season
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 5, 2022 15:14:46 GMT
So just burying Clarke even further. If he want to let him go, fine. His decision, but is there any need to just complete trash the bloke I still dont know what Barton knows now that he didnt know 2 months ago, or even throughout the year prior to that? Ok so he didnt see much of him due to his physical state, so why give him a new 2 year deal!? Barton's openly admitted he made a mistake in giving him the deal. I think he's been quite frank & honest in what he's said about the whole situation.
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Post by pirate on Aug 5, 2022 15:16:00 GMT
Re the youngsters are Heal and Egan being let go, or just given the opportunity to get loans for experience? I thought Egan was highly rated and played well beyond his years at Hereford last season. Said yesterday they have no future here.
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Post by percy on Aug 5, 2022 15:23:44 GMT
I still dont know what Barton knows now that he didnt know 2 months ago, or even throughout the year prior to that? Ok so he didnt see much of him due to his physical state, so why give him a new 2 year deal!? To be fair, as much as everyone likes to paint Joey as a basket case, he has openly said he made a mistake here and holds his hands up. And at the same time put off clubs that may have been interested in taking him off our hands. Will still be taking a wage from us for 2 years. Cheers Joey.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Aug 5, 2022 15:23:54 GMT
I still dont know what Barton knows now that he didnt know 2 months ago, or even throughout the year prior to that? Ok so he didnt see much of him due to his physical state, so why give him a new 2 year deal!? Barton's openly admitted he made a mistake in giving him the deal. I think he's been quite frank & honest in what he's said about the whole situation. I like the fact he has been open and honest about all this and held his hands up and said he made mistake and has quickly gone about rectifying the situation. We all make mistakes its part of life some people never hold there hands up or do anything about it.
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Post by percy on Aug 5, 2022 15:25:35 GMT
Barton's openly admitted he made a mistake in giving him the deal. I think he's been quite frank & honest in what he's said about the whole situation. I like the fact he has been open and honest about all this and held his hands up and said he made mistake and has quickly gone about rectifying the situation. We all make mistakes its part of life some people never hold there hands up or do anything about it. It’s the way he does it. See my previous reply. Surely reduced any chance of him being picked up by anyone else. Will just wait to be paid off now.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 5, 2022 15:27:49 GMT
Barton's openly admitted he made a mistake in giving him the deal. I think he's been quite frank & honest in what he's said about the whole situation. I like the fact he has been open and honest about all this and held his hands up and said he made mistake and has quickly gone about rectifying the situation. We all make mistakes its part of life some people never hold there hands up or do anything about it. Agree. Good post. Also, he's given them all time and opportunities. Many times. Sometimes it just goes like that, and with many many players competing for contracts, the market should be on our side to sign suitable replacement. Good luck to all those leaving..
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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 5, 2022 15:37:45 GMT
Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason) and whoever is in charge has to acknowledge and accept this. Even if they can't quite bring themselves to select him, when fit. [ Please explain your comment about " Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason)? Thought it was obvious. Chelsea product obviously.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 5, 2022 15:48:48 GMT
Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason) and whoever is in charge has to acknowledge and accept this. Even if they can't quite bring themselves to select him, when fit. [ Please explain your comment about " Grant was and is Wael's boy (for obvious reason)? Ex Chelsea?
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Post by fanboy on Aug 5, 2022 15:54:35 GMT
To be fair, as much as everyone likes to paint Joey as a basket case, he has openly said he made a mistake here and holds his hands up. And at the same time put off clubs that may have been interested in taking him off our hands. Will still be taking a wage from us for 2 years. Cheers Joey. I'll be surprised if he isn't gone on a free transfer within 3 weeks.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 5, 2022 15:56:45 GMT
It is incompetent to spend someone else's money on a two year contract in June 2022 for a player who, at the announcement of the signing is praised to high heaven, then sack him in August after one game. But leave the shareholders to foot the contract cost...with absolutely zero benefit. If that is not a prime example of incompetence, what is? How do you know it’s incompetence - unless of course you know the facts and you can enlighten us all. I’m sure the primary shareholder knows the facts and is in agreement. Wael hasn't got much choice though, he either backs JB in public or sacks him, which he's never going to do after he's just achieved promotion. You do have to fear one day that JB will over step the mark and finish up being dismissed.
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Post by Quarters on Aug 5, 2022 16:11:04 GMT
Re the youngsters are Heal and Egan being let go, or just given the opportunity to get loans for experience? I thought Egan was highly rated and played well beyond his years at Hereford last season. Said yesterday they have no future here. with the two young boys, I could keep them in, but it's just not fair on them," Barton said. "They're probably going to have to drop out of the league and into non-league, I think Jamie has done that at Hereford before. Sam Heal has come back of an ACL last year, he needs to go and play men's football. He doesn't need to be hanging around our training ground. Does not say they are not wanted.
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Post by eastgas on Aug 5, 2022 16:12:12 GMT
Re the youngsters are Heal and Egan being let go, or just given the opportunity to get loans for experience? I thought Egan was highly rated and played well beyond his years at Hereford last season. Said yesterday they have no future here. I think the club and Sam frost put out another statement/tweet afterward clarifying that Heal and Egan have been told to go on loan and not have no future at the club like the other three mentioned
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 5, 2022 16:48:56 GMT
Right decision regarding Westbrooke and Rodman. The Clarke situation does seem odd. I'm speculating but I wonder if the rumours that Charlton are in for Clarke has caused a bit of tension between the two? Either way, we were and most certain are now short at the back which is a worry I’m not very knowledgeable on this, but I presume we still have to pay him for 2 years if no one signs him?? Of course we do, if we've offered him a 2 year contract then we have to honour it. The best we can hope for is Clarke gets a new contract at another club and we just meet any shortfall.
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Post by pirate on Aug 5, 2022 21:01:33 GMT
Said yesterday they have no future here. with the two young boys, I could keep them in, but it's just not fair on them," Barton said. "They're probably going to have to drop out of the league and into non-league, I think Jamie has done that at Hereford before. Sam Heal has come back of an ACL last year, he needs to go and play men's football. He doesn't need to be hanging around our training ground. Does not say they are not wanted. He specifically said: "we've lost 5 players this week who have no future with the club". "I don't think it's fair to carry them on down the track with us when they aren't going to be part of our future." I listened to the interview myself on Having a Gas and he couldn't have been any clearer. Here from 7:30mins: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0cl3y8r
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