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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Sept 2, 2022 8:17:25 GMT
True nevertheless, I equally find that a yawn ‘ 🙃💙utg
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Post by bluegas on Sept 2, 2022 8:18:08 GMT
Ah yes, but no opportunity to berate Barton must be missed. yawn Yes, it is indeed becoming tiresome and boring.
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Post by playtowin on Sept 2, 2022 9:34:29 GMT
You do wonder where Zain will end up at the end of his contract if he is unable to currently find a new club. Southend united ?
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Post by RD on Sept 2, 2022 9:57:32 GMT
You do wonder where Zain will end up at the end of his contract if he is unable to currently find a new club. Southend united ? My guess is he probably has club's interested, but noone prepared to match the likely crazy money we're paying him. He belongs in amateur football and should be earning a living on the side IMO. One of the worst ever to wear the quarters.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 2, 2022 10:01:58 GMT
So Trev and Westbrooke (surprisingly!) havent found clubs and Joey now says they are back in the fold. Pleased for Trev but this whole thing has been very poor from Joey. Needs to keep some thoughts in his head Or good man management? Guess we'll wait and see Imo, a very good strategy, Joey was clear, neither player having being given a number of opportunities, were currently capable of doing what he wanted them to do on the pitch during game time, he told them / their agents, to look for a new club; unfortunately, neither has been able to drum up any interest. Subsequently, rather than isolate the players from the first team squad, Joey has quite rightly allowed both players to stay and train, while they sort out there futures. All very unambiguous, and I would have thought, in the short term at least (until the end of January 23), mutually acceptable.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 2, 2022 10:06:34 GMT
You do wonder where Zain will end up at the end of his contract if he is unable to currently find a new club. Southend united ? My guess is he probably has club's interested, but noone prepared to match the likely crazy money we're paying him. He belongs in amateur football and should be earning a living on the side IMO. One of the worst ever to wear the quarters. He knows he wont ever get a contract like this one every again, so (as is his right) he will wait it out. Shows a lack of ambition though as he has no chance here
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Post by pepsi on Sept 2, 2022 10:20:33 GMT
My guess is he probably has club's interested, but noone prepared to match the likely crazy money we're paying him. He belongs in amateur football and should be earning a living on the side IMO. One of the worst ever to wear the quarters. He knows he wont ever get a contract like this one every again, so (as is his right) he will wait it out. Shows a lack of ambition though as he has no chance here I’m still baffled by how he was a success at Coventry when they were promoted to the championship (won the league I think 🤔) Didn’t he win young player of the year 😮 Perhaps he was the only young player 🤷♂️
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Post by It's a song on Sept 2, 2022 10:25:41 GMT
Poor old Trevor Clarke. What a turnaround from the high of a new contract, we've now ended up stuck with about the most despondent pro in the league.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 2, 2022 10:38:12 GMT
Poor old Trevor Clarke. What a turnaround from the high of a new contract, we've now ended up stuck with about the most despondent pro in the league. He didn't look despondent when he played at Plymouth on Tuesday. Football can be brutal at times, and I'm sure that he'll be happy enough to be integrated back into the squad.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 2, 2022 10:39:05 GMT
He knows he wont ever get a contract like this one every again, so (as is his right) he will wait it out. Shows a lack of ambition though as he has no chance here I’m still baffled by how he was a success at Coventry when they were promoted to the championship (won the league I think 🤔) Didn’t he win young player of the year 😮 Perhaps he was the only young player 🤷♂️ You and me both. He looks way below L1 level and didnt set things alight while at Stevenage in L2. Terrible signing considering the decent contract he would have been on
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Post by fanboy on Sept 2, 2022 10:45:33 GMT
Poor old Trevor Clarke. What a turnaround from the high of a new contract, we've now ended up stuck with about the most despondent pro in the league. Or the most motivated to make it work.
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Post by alanrg on Sept 2, 2022 10:46:56 GMT
I wonder come January when Westbrooke has 6 months left on his contract whether the club will come to a mutual agreement to pay off the rest of the contract like they did with Stefan Payne
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 2, 2022 10:47:51 GMT
I wonder come January when Westbrooke has 6 months left on his contract whether the club will come to a mutual agreement to pay off the rest of the contract like they did with Stefan Payne Fingers crossed, eh? 🤞
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Post by horfield on Sept 2, 2022 10:48:35 GMT
It is an embarrassment though when 3 players are shown the door and the CEO, Manager and the man who cant say good morning without using a four letter word don't know the PFA contract rules or even bother to ring the PFA to find out where they stand. Everybody raves about the new professionalism at the club but its been found wanting on this one. Who is going to eat humble pie now, probably all blaming each other.
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Post by It's a song on Sept 2, 2022 10:50:26 GMT
Poor old Trevor Clarke. What a turnaround from the high of a new contract, we've now ended up stuck with about the most despondent pro in the league. Or the most motivated to make it work. Well that would be the real Rocky story then. I hope so but very much doubt it.
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Post by It's a song on Sept 2, 2022 10:53:49 GMT
Poor old Trevor Clarke. What a turnaround from the high of a new contract, we've now ended up stuck with about the most despondent pro in the league. He didn't look despondent when he played at Plymouth on Tuesday. Football can be brutal at times, and I'm sure that he'll be happy enough to be integrated back into the squad. Don't think its worth reading much into anything in that comp. JB wasn't even there. I'm really rooting for TC, hope he can turn it around.
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Post by It's a song on Sept 2, 2022 10:57:10 GMT
It is an embarrassment though when 3 players are shown the door and the CEO, Manager and the man who cant say good morning without using a four letter word don't know the PFA contract rules or even bother to ring the PFA to find out where they stand. Everybody raves about the new professionalism at the club but its been found wanting on this one. Who is going to eat humble pie now, probably all blaming each other. Who's the four letter word man?
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 2, 2022 12:44:54 GMT
It is an embarrassment though when 3 players are shown the door and the CEO, Manager and the man who cant say good morning without using a four letter word don't know the PFA contract rules or even bother to ring the PFA to find out where they stand. Everybody raves about the new professionalism at the club but its been found wanting on this one. Who is going to eat humble pie now, probably all blaming each other. Who's the four letter word man? 'Good' is four letters long.
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 2, 2022 12:47:55 GMT
Saw this article yesterday, suggesting banishing a player from the first team squad could fall foul of FIFA regulations and UK employment law... theathletic.com/3549567/2022/08/31/transfers-bomb-squads/ [Paywall] " This transfer window ought to have been different. This is the first summer since FIFA clarified its regulations on the “status and transfer of players” (RSTP) in November. New commentaries of Article 14 (2) found that forcing a player to train on their own may result in a club engaging in “abusive conduct”. Footballers, the rules argue, do not warrant such degradation.
There will be readers who roll their eyes at that. How can a player, often well-remunerated, command sympathy when all they are being asked to do is train away from their senior team-mates?
Well, it is entering dangerous territory with UK employment laws. The Professional Footballers’ Association (PFA), the players’ union, has been advising some of their impacted members this summer and continues to actively work with “two or three” players as this transfer window reaches its close.
“We see this tactic used now because there is this opportunity to move players on before the deadline,” James King, general counsel of the PFA, tells The Athletic.
“Managers change and they make an assessment of their squad, deciding that some players are not in their plans. But a player still has an employment contract and that is for a fixed term. The player is an employee and they have rights and protections like anyone else.
“This isn’t keeping a player’s skills up to the level they should be. These are professional footballers and the employer is obliged to train them at the highest possible level." The club were told by the PFA that they had to let them train with the first team squad, or they would be in breach of contract. Hence they were "welcomed back" on Tuesday, last week. I presume that an experienced CEO would have known this, a bit of on the job learning for Tom. Swansea obviously ignored all of that in the case of Ryan Bennett who has not featured in any of their squads since last March and was forced to train with the under 21's. I suppose when you are on £20k/week you don't mind doing that. He has just agreed a termination of his contract which would have paid him £2 million over the next two years. If he had played one more game for them he would have received another increase. Has apparently agreed a termination which gives him many hundred of thousands and is now a free agent. A very good centrehalf who has fallen out with their under pressure manager who appears to be out of his depth after his spell at MK dons. We need an experienced centreback but I think he is slightly out of our price range.
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Post by horfield on Sept 2, 2022 13:06:09 GMT
Who's the four letter word man? 'Good' is four letters long. The arrogant unpleasant well pleased with himself scouser who I had the misfortune to sit near at a game last season who masquerades sometimes as director of football or sometimes football consultant, it all depends what day of the week it is. Of course apparently he's not employed by the club.
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