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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 2, 2022 5:25:54 GMT
I know this is off message but that referee ruined a day out for 1800 people who had paid good money, for his sheer incompetence and lack of backbone to alter the result of the game.
Of course, people shouldn’t react and lose their tempers but the FA might want to understand what brought such an angry reaction, and the reason for that was the FA putting officials in charge who were not properly trained and vetted to handle league 1 professional football games.
If the fire department put out a fire, they don’t just drive away. They look to establish why the fire started, who did it and how etc?
Therefore they should put the fire out (by all means address the crowd trouble) but they should also perhaps watch the game and the decisions and understand what led to it in the first place.
It is simply not good enough to dust your hands down and walk away just blaming it on fans. Poor musicians get pelted if they don’t perform. Politicians get heckled and egged if they don’t perform.
The crowd had every right to be angry. It doesn’t justify being violent, but the anger itself was justified and none of this would have happened had the referee not been so weak spirited and incompetent.
The fans had spent a lot of time and money to watch a professional football match and they didn’t get what they paid for. They were cheated and got ripped off, essentially.
As fans, we pay the wages of those officials. They are not Kings and masters of the universe, so a comment once in a while that they are reviewing the standard of performance of one of their officials would go a long way.
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Post by rusho'gas on Sept 2, 2022 7:14:04 GMT
Perhaps Pompey were paying the 30 pieces of silver to their referee.
Whomever threw the bottle, find them, ban them, make a point of acknowledging their stupidity.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 2, 2022 8:33:10 GMT
I know this is off message but that referee ruined a day out for 1800 people who had paid good money, for his sheer incompetence and lack of backbone to alter the result of the game. Of course, people shouldn’t react and lose their tempers but the FA might want to understand what brought such an angry reaction, and the reason for that was the FA putting officials in charge who were not properly trained and vetted to handle league 1 professional football games. If the fire department put out a fire, they don’t just drive away. They look to establish why the fire started, who did it and how etc? Therefore they should put the fire out (by all means address the crowd trouble) but they should also perhaps watch the game and the decisions and understand what led to it in the first place. It is simply not good enough to dust your hands down and walk away just blaming it on fans. Poor musicians get pelted if they don’t perform. Politicians get heckled and egged if they don’t perform. The crowd had every right to be angry. It doesn’t justify being violent, but the anger itself was justified and none of this would have happened had the referee not been so weak spirited and incompetent. The fans had spent a lot of time and money to watch a professional football match and they didn’t get what they paid for. They were cheated and got ripped off, essentially. As fans, we pay the wages of those officials. They are not Kings and masters of the universe, so a comment once in a while that they are reviewing the standard of performance of one of their officials would go a long way. The bottle was thrown in the first half just after Pompey scored. No dodgy decisions from the ref at that point which kind of blows a hole in your off message point
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Post by gasify on Sept 2, 2022 8:43:46 GMT
Stop bein so woke grandad. It's just bantz an normal excitement an wot dyoo expect wen the playaz r divin. R fanz nevva do nuffin rong. wot about all the uvver teamz fanz? Av u nevva bin 2 a game an enjoyed it? Itz wankaz like u thatz spolin the game. Going by how inarticulate your post is you are either 6 years old, a Sh1thead or both? Or even the person who threw the bottle? Or taking the water. Of what someone trying to defend it would say. We have already had some "Whataboutism" on this thread. Maybe we should concente on the behaviour of our own fans, rather try to play the victim (it's due to JB. What about City). We only have ourselves to blame if there is a points deduction or behind closed door game.
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 2, 2022 9:05:24 GMT
I know this is off message but that referee ruined a day out for 1800 people who had paid good money, for his sheer incompetence and lack of backbone to alter the result of the game. Of course, people shouldn’t react and lose their tempers but the FA might want to understand what brought such an angry reaction, and the reason for that was the FA putting officials in charge who were not properly trained and vetted to handle league 1 professional football games. If the fire department put out a fire, they don’t just drive away. They look to establish why the fire started, who did it and how etc? Therefore they should put the fire out (by all means address the crowd trouble) but they should also perhaps watch the game and the decisions and understand what led to it in the first place. It is simply not good enough to dust your hands down and walk away just blaming it on fans. Poor musicians get pelted if they don’t perform. Politicians get heckled and egged if they don’t perform. The crowd had every right to be angry. It doesn’t justify being violent, but the anger itself was justified and none of this would have happened had the referee not been so weak spirited and incompetent. The fans had spent a lot of time and money to watch a professional football match and they didn’t get what they paid for. They were cheated and got ripped off, essentially. As fans, we pay the wages of those officials. They are not Kings and masters of the universe, so a comment once in a while that they are reviewing the standard of performance of one of their officials would go a long way. The bottle was thrown in the first half just after Pompey scored. No dodgy decisions from the ref at that point which kind of blows a hole in your off message point "The nasty man made me do it". Maybe fans who feel that way should referee a game and realise it isn't that simple. I wouldn't want to be a ref that's for sure, so I won’t berate someone willing to do it as there wouldn't even be a game without officials.
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 2, 2022 9:42:54 GMT
The bottle was thrown in the first half just after Pompey scored. No dodgy decisions from the ref at that point which kind of blows a hole in your off message point "The nasty man made me do it". Maybe fans who feel that way should referee a game and realise it isn't that simple. I wouldn't want to be a ref that's for sure, so I won’t berate someone willing to do it as there wouldn't even be a game without officials. I have refereed and run the line at kids football and that is bad enough. Most officials do a good enough job. They are human, they make honest mistakes. Their job is made harder by FIFA and the FA interpretation focus groups, by cheating players, baying fans and endless television replays. You go to games knowing how it is going to be officiated. That is part and parcel of the game.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Sept 2, 2022 10:07:30 GMT
As far as I am aware the bigger problem sits with Portsmouth, their fans throwing coins which hit the referee; the other matter concerning a Rovers Supporter relates to a empty plastic bottle being thrown onto the pitch, which while regrettable and wrong, imo would not warrant BRFC being docked points, etc. ...
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 2, 2022 10:25:53 GMT
As far as I am aware the bigger problem sits with Portsmouth, their fans throwing coins which hit the referee; the other matter concerning a Rovers Supporter relates to a empty plastic bottle being thrown onto the pitch, which while regrettable and wrong, imo would not warrant BRFC being docked points, etc. ... The bottle was not empty when it was thrown but most of the liquid would have spilt out when on the ground
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 2, 2022 15:20:06 GMT
As far as I am aware the bigger problem sits with Portsmouth, their fans throwing coins which hit the referee; the other matter concerning a Rovers Supporter relates to a empty plastic bottle being thrown onto the pitch, which while regrettable and wrong, imo would not warrant BRFC being docked points, etc. ... But how many incidents like this are the FA going to let us get away with before they take stronger action?
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 2, 2022 16:16:57 GMT
I know this is off message but that referee ruined a day out for 1800 people who had paid good money, for his sheer incompetence and lack of backbone to alter the result of the game. Of course, people shouldn’t react and lose their tempers but the FA might want to understand what brought such an angry reaction, and the reason for that was the FA putting officials in charge who were not properly trained and vetted to handle league 1 professional football games. If the fire department put out a fire, they don’t just drive away. They look to establish why the fire started, who did it and how etc? Therefore they should put the fire out (by all means address the crowd trouble) but they should also perhaps watch the game and the decisions and understand what led to it in the first place. It is simply not good enough to dust your hands down and walk away just blaming it on fans. Poor musicians get pelted if they don’t perform. Politicians get heckled and egged if they don’t perform. The crowd had every right to be angry. It doesn’t justify being violent, but the anger itself was justified and none of this would have happened had the referee not been so weak spirited and incompetent. The fans had spent a lot of time and money to watch a professional football match and they didn’t get what they paid for. They were cheated and got ripped off, essentially. As fans, we pay the wages of those officials. They are not Kings and masters of the universe, so a comment once in a while that they are reviewing the standard of performance of one of their officials would go a long way. The bottle was thrown in the first half just after Pompey scored. No dodgy decisions from the ref at that point which kind of blows a hole in your off message point I didn’t know that, then you’re correct. There’s no excuse.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 2, 2022 16:33:24 GMT
It's a bloody disgrace and disgusting....
....every missile missed their target. Ridiculous!
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 2, 2022 20:12:42 GMT
The bottle was thrown in the first half just after Pompey scored. No dodgy decisions from the ref at that point which kind of blows a hole in your off message point "The nasty man made me do it". Maybe fans who feel that way should referee a game and realise it isn't that simple. I wouldn't want to be a ref that's for sure, so I won’t berate someone willing to do it as there wouldn't even be a game without officials. They get paid for it. They aren’t doing it for charity. “The nasty man made me do it” No, “their voice wasn’t being heard”
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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 2, 2022 20:24:48 GMT
"The nasty man made me do it". Maybe fans who feel that way should referee a game and realise it isn't that simple. I wouldn't want to be a ref that's for sure, so I won’t berate someone willing to do it as there wouldn't even be a game without officials. They get paid for it. They aren’t doing it for charity. “The nasty man made me do it” No, “their voice wasn’t being heard” And? Referees being paid does not mean fans can breach the rules if they think the referee is wrong. In the heat of the moment who is to say the referee called it wrong? All you are doing is passing the buck, fans need to take both individual and collective responsibility.
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Post by gulfofaden on Sept 3, 2022 19:21:03 GMT
They get paid for it. They aren’t doing it for charity. “The nasty man made me do it” No, “their voice wasn’t being heard” And? Referees being paid does not mean fans can breach the rules if they think the referee is wrong. In the heat of the moment who is to say the referee called it wrong? All you are doing is passing the buck, fans need to take both individual and collective responsibility. No! Mob rule.
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 3, 2022 20:13:00 GMT
Couple of high profile incidents today at Goodison Park. Fella ran on the pitch trying to give Antony Taylor a slap & someone lobbed a plastic bottle at Klopp.
Seems they’ve both been identified & bans incoming.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Sept 4, 2022 11:15:30 GMT
It’s interesting how many gas heads seem intent on talking us into fines and points deductions for incidents for which other teams appear to be getting away with punishment Scott free?! Port vale springs to mind, fans assaulting Swindon players on the pitch having just booked a Wembley play off final place!! It’s comforting to see our fans rightly disassociating themselves from the twats who ran on the pitch, we have got form it’s true, but I’d like to see a bit more evenhandedness towards other clubs fans, who in the same few months as we’ve been punished and investigated seem to be getting away with similar incidents, did port vale play with a reduced capacity because of the Swindon incursions
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2022 11:22:19 GMT
It’s interesting how many gas heads seem intent on talking us into fines and points deductions for incidents for which other teams appear to be getting away with punishment Scott free?! Port vale springs to mind, fans assaulting Swindon players on the pitch having just booked a Wembley play off final place!! It’s comforting to see our fans rightly disassociating themselves from the twats who ran on the pitch, we have got form it’s true, but I’d like to see a bit more evenhandedness towards other clubs fans, who in the same few months as we’ve been punished and investigated seem to be getting away with similar incidents, did port vale play with a reduced capacity because of the Swindon incursions Port Vale: The FA charge club for pitch invasion during home play-off semi-final - www.bbc.com/sport/football/62346511
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Sept 4, 2022 12:33:13 GMT
It’s interesting how many gas heads seem intent on talking us into fines and points deductions for incidents for which other teams appear to be getting away with punishment Scott free?! Port vale springs to mind, fans assaulting Swindon players on the pitch having just booked a Wembley play off final place!! It’s comforting to see our fans rightly disassociating themselves from the twats who ran on the pitch, we have got form it’s true, but I’d like to see a bit more evenhandedness towards other clubs fans, who in the same few months as we’ve been punished and investigated seem to be getting away with similar incidents, did port vale play with a reduced capacity because of the Swindon incursions Port Vale: The FA charge club for pitch invasion during home play-off semi-final - www.bbc.com/sport/football/62346511 thanks Topper I knew as soon as I mentioned a set of fans apparently getting away with punishment someone would put me right UTG
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