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Post by percy on Sept 23, 2022 12:48:50 GMT
I don’t think that is what is being suggested but I also don’t see where the incentive is for a multi millionaire to deliberately drive without insurance to save a few pennies when the repercussions (for someone who constantly needs to drive up and down the country for family reasons) could be hugely disruptive to their daily life. exactly he has all the money he could ever need, why would he try and get out of paying for car insurance, driving up and down the M5/M6 all the time will get him pulled no doubt if you don't have insurance it just doesn't make sense, I absolutely believe it was a genuin mistake, some people on here making more out of this as usualAnd that's the issue. "As usual". Joey in court or in trouble for something is a regular occurrence. Some will defend him every time, others will say he shouldnt be near our club. Personally its tiresome and does no good for the club or team. Grow up Joey ffs.
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Post by kruger on Sept 23, 2022 13:07:06 GMT
exactly he has all the money he could ever need, why would he try and get out of paying for car insurance, driving up and down the M5/M6 all the time will get him pulled no doubt if you don't have insurance it just doesn't make sense, I absolutely believe it was a genuin mistake, some people on here making more out of this as usualAnd that's the issue. "As usual". Joey in court or in trouble for something is a regular occurrence. Some will defend him every time, others will say he shouldnt be near our club. Personally its tiresome and does no good for the club or team. Grow up Joey ffs. it must be bloody brilliant being you, you're obviously one of these people that doesn't make mistakes, well guess what I do, I do shed loads wrong, I've driven my car without MOT a few years ago, I did not realise it had ran out, about 15 years ago I also drove without tax again I forgot all about it, I'm a lorry driver and a few months back I hit a Mercedes car in Birmingham, again my fault although he was in my blind spot, it's OK Joey we all make genuin mistakes accept for the odd person on here obviously
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Post by Quarters on Sept 23, 2022 13:23:08 GMT
Get your car written off by an uninsured driver and see how you feel.
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Post by percy on Sept 23, 2022 13:26:27 GMT
And that's the issue. "As usual". Joey in court or in trouble for something is a regular occurrence. Some will defend him every time, others will say he shouldnt be near our club. Personally its tiresome and does no good for the club or team. Grow up Joey ffs. it must be bloody brilliant being you, you're obviously one of these people that doesn't make mistakes, well guess what I do, I do shed loads wrong, I've driven my car without MOT a few years ago, I did not realise it had ran out, about 15 years ago I also drove without tax again I forgot all about it, I'm a lorry driver and a few months back I hit a Mercedes car in Birmingham, again my fault although he was in my blind spot, it's OK Joey we all make genuin mistakes accept for the odd person on here obviously Oh dear, you've misread and put your own spin on my comment. Never mind.
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Post by kruger on Sept 23, 2022 13:34:29 GMT
Get your car written off by an uninsured driver and see how you feel. That as actually happened to me back in the 90s, I did not feel good about it in the slightest, he was uninsured and drunk, but that's a bit different from a genuin mistake
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 23, 2022 13:42:27 GMT
Does nobody commenting on this know how the law works regarding car insurance? Lets (reasonably) assume that JB is insured to drive his own motor; if we also (just as reasonably) assume that said insurance is Fully Comp, then normally that would cover him (3rd party) to drive someone else’s car. However, that car also has to be insured by the owner for JB’s own insurance to be valid whilst driving it. So it is entirely possible that he borrowed the car automatically assuming the owner was insured and that consequently his insurance would cover him - no problem. As it turns out, the owner (and therefore the car) was not insured, rendering JB’s insurance invalid when he was driving it. And the judge awarded the fine and points because, in the eyes of the law, JB really should’ve checked first. I would imagine there are quite a lot of people who have borrowed vehicles from family members or friends assuming everything was fine & driven without actually having insurance cover. Of it could just be that JB is in fact the Antichrist . . . Hush you, coming on here with your sensible facts!
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Post by It's a song on Sept 23, 2022 13:50:17 GMT
For someone who was banned from driving for 6 months in 2019 it's just not great is it. Wael, get him a chauffeur.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 23, 2022 13:54:54 GMT
Does nobody commenting on this know how the law works regarding car insurance? Lets (reasonably) assume that JB is insured to drive his own motor; if we also (just as reasonably) assume that said insurance is Fully Comp, then normally that would cover him (3rd party) to drive someone else’s car. However, that car also has to be insured by the owner for JB’s own insurance to be valid whilst driving it. So it is entirely possible that he borrowed the car automatically assuming the owner was insured and that consequently his insurance would cover him - no problem. As it turns out, the owner (and therefore the car) was not insured, rendering JB’s insurance invalid when he was driving it. And the judge awarded the fine and points because, in the eyes of the law, JB really should’ve checked first. I would imagine there are quite a lot of people who have borrowed vehicles from family members or friends assuming everything was fine & driven without actually having insurance cover. Of it could just be that JB is in fact the Antichrist . . . The other car doesn't need to be insured, it just needs to be owned by somebody else and they've given you permission to drive it. However if Barton's own car is a company car then he won't have a driving other vehicles extension to his policy.
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Post by Goose on Sept 23, 2022 13:56:48 GMT
I think it's changed in the last few years now. You can get TPO cover with DOC extension, however you need to notify your insurers when you intend to drive someone else's car for it to take effect. It's not generally a blanket cover anymore
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Post by kruger on Sept 23, 2022 14:05:29 GMT
Does nobody commenting on this know how the law works regarding car insurance? Lets (reasonably) assume that JB is insured to drive his own motor; if we also (just as reasonably) assume that said insurance is Fully Comp, then normally that would cover him (3rd party) to drive someone else’s car. However, that car also has to be insured by the owner for JB’s own insurance to be valid whilst driving it. So it is entirely possible that he borrowed the car automatically assuming the owner was insured and that consequently his insurance would cover him - no problem. As it turns out, the owner (and therefore the car) was not insured, rendering JB’s insurance invalid when he was driving it. And the judge awarded the fine and points because, in the eyes of the law, JB really should’ve checked first. I would imagine there are quite a lot of people who have borrowed vehicles from family members or friends assuming everything was fine & driven without actually having insurance cover. Of it could just be that JB is in fact the Antichrist . . . The other car doesn't need to be insured, it just needs to be owned by somebody else and they've given you permission to drive it. However if Barton's own car is a company car then he won't have a driving other vehicles extension to his policy. are you 100% on that, that doesn't sound right to me?
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 23, 2022 14:36:19 GMT
Does nobody commenting on this know how the law works regarding car insurance? Lets (reasonably) assume that JB is insured to drive his own motor; if we also (just as reasonably) assume that said insurance is Fully Comp, then normally that would cover him (3rd party) to drive someone else’s car. However, that car also has to be insured by the owner for JB’s own insurance to be valid whilst driving it. So it is entirely possible that he borrowed the car automatically assuming the owner was insured and that consequently his insurance would cover him - no problem. As it turns out, the owner (and therefore the car) was not insured, rendering JB’s insurance invalid when he was driving it. And the judge awarded the fine and points because, in the eyes of the law, JB really should’ve checked first. I would imagine there are quite a lot of people who have borrowed vehicles from family members or friends assuming everything was fine & driven without actually having insurance cover. Of it could just be that JB is in fact the Antichrist . . . The other car doesn't need to be insured, it just needs to be owned by somebody else and they've given you permission to drive it. However if Barton's own car is a company car then he won't have a driving other vehicles extension to his policy. Your are wrong Topper! The other car needs to be insured if you have DOC cover on your own policy to cover you for third party insurance while driving that car.
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 23, 2022 14:37:31 GMT
The other car doesn't need to be insured, it just needs to be owned by somebody else and they've given you permission to drive it. However if Barton's own car is a company car then he won't have a driving other vehicles extension to his policy. are you 100% on that, that doesn't sound right to me? It's not right, you are correct in saying that doesn't sound right. The other car has to be insured.
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Post by farmygas on Sept 23, 2022 16:27:51 GMT
My gaffer 👊
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 16:37:45 GMT
Can't believe people read the Sun and the Daily Mail, some Rupert Murdoch sympathisers about, shameful.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Sept 23, 2022 17:41:38 GMT
Can't believe people read the Sun and the Daily Mail, some Rupert Murdoch sympathisers about, shameful. How else am I supposed to keep up with latest news on Megan Markle?! (never look at The Sun, DM for the showbiz - I'm shallow)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2022 20:29:05 GMT
Can't believe people read the Sun and the Daily Mail, some Rupert Murdoch sympathisers about, shameful. How else am I supposed to keep up with latest news on Megan Markle?! (never look at The Sun, DM for the showbiz - I'm shallow) Love the honesty Tilly!
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Post by kruger on Sept 23, 2022 20:37:56 GMT
are you 100% on that, that doesn't sound right to me? It's not right, you are correct in saying that doesn't sound right. The other car has to be insured. yes thats how I've always known it, see my point, people on here don't even know the laws
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 10:56:29 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting rich people only break the law by mistake? I don’t think that is what is being suggested but I also don’t see where the incentive is for a multi millionaire to deliberately drive without insurance to save a few pennies when the repercussions (for someone who constantly needs to drive up and down the country for family reasons) could be hugely disruptive to their daily life. But Joey seems to have got into trouble quite a lot over the years despite being wealth. Joey's wealth does not seem to impact on his behaviour but it does enable him to hire top-drawer lawyers when misfortune strikes.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Sept 24, 2022 11:23:29 GMT
Can't believe people read the Sun and the Daily Mail, some Rupert Murdoch sympathisers about, shameful. How else am I supposed to keep up with latest news on Megan Markle?! (never look at The Sun, DM for the showbiz - I'm shallow) 🤣 The amount of reading you are doing at the moment Tills re; MM must be overwhelming 😀 I wonder if you also watch Lady Colin Campbell, HG Tudor, River SueMe all on YouTube )How a woman with little talent, apart from bagging a shoddy Prince) 🤔is quite remarkable!
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Post by gasify on Sept 24, 2022 11:31:15 GMT
The bit I can't understand is whose car was it? Was it owned by JB or his brother? Whenever I have seen Joey driving, he has been behind the wheel of a Range Rover. This thread is like playing "Joey Barton Hate Bingo" only need a few more contributors saying how horrible he is to shout "house". I was asking a simple question. Attack the post, not the poster(s). This post feels like you are attacking people, rather than the posts.
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