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Post by amgas on Jan 6, 2015 21:41:55 GMT
Wonder how many of his recent goals have been as a result of playing upfront with "the beast" - if nothing else it must mean defenders concentrating less on Tubbs when he is playing alongside a player who is such a handful. Based on the FA cup game last night I did not see much about Tubbs that looked better than what we already have with Taylor. Based on that game everyone should be trying to sign Rigg not Tubbs.....
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 6, 2015 22:06:46 GMT
amgas, You can't learn anything about the ability of a player playing up front against a Premier League team. Its in the bread and butter games in the standard in which they are playing where you learn about players. If we are completely out of the running for Tubbs then that is disappointing as he would have been a great signing for the level we are playing at and also could have been playing next season. Anybody watching last nights game would probably have rated Riggs as better than Lambert and we all know that is rubbish!!
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Post by Raj Gas on Jan 6, 2015 22:36:40 GMT
amgas, You can't learn anything about the ability of a player playing up front against a Premier League team. Its in the bread and butter games in the standard in which they are playing where you learn about players. If we are completely out of the running for Tubbs then that is disappointing as he would have been a great signing for the level we are playing at and also could have been playing next season. Anybody watching last nights game would probably have rated Riggs as better than Lambert and we all know that is rubbish!! Steve do you think something like a Riggy would be a welcome addition to the squad and first team? I did think that Tubbs looked like a more experienced Taylor, he seemed to have a more instinctive game more in and around the box.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 22:40:33 GMT
Very difficult to judge strikers re: will they make an impact at a new club because so much depends on the players around them. Tubbs is very much a player who creates very little for others/himself, but is a clinical finisher of chances. Typical striker in many ways.
Wimbledon last night worked really hard and created quite a few chances, sounds like the opposite of Pompey this season. That's why I think Tubbs might struggle at Portsmouth, and probably would have been a perfect fit at BRFC.
Who knows though, funny how these things work out.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 7, 2015 9:06:11 GMT
Getting LDV back would be the biggest signing we can make and proberbly needed more than another striker right now (and far cheaper than Tubbs would cost). We should not be going back to the days of extra long big money contracts just to get these big names in.
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Post by roverstillidie on Jan 7, 2015 11:31:41 GMT
Completely agree with Qater Gas on trying to get LDV back,joy to watch a confident young lad with a few tricks in his locker and the ability to leave defenders on their arse...but ( and I know my memories not quite what it was)... when was the last time we issued a big money contract to get a big name in ..?!! If we had done that this time last year, maybe we might not be in the position we find ourselves in now.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jan 7, 2015 11:37:16 GMT
Completely agree with Qater Gas on trying to get LDV back,joy to watch a confident young lad with a few tricks in his locker and the ability to leave defenders on their arse...but ( and I know my memories not quite what it was)... when was the last time we issued a big money contract to get a big name in ..?!! If we had done that this time last year, maybe we might not be in the position we find ourselves in now. If in fact we did do that ( the big money contract). If we did though it does make you wonder if this loosening of the purse strings has anything to do with events going on elsewhere. Like the state of play with Sainsburys?
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jan 7, 2015 11:59:23 GMT
Completely agree with Qater Gas on trying to get LDV back,joy to watch a confident young lad with a few tricks in his locker and the ability to leave defenders on their arse...but ( and I know my memories not quite what it was)... when was the last time we issued a big money contract to get a big name in ..?!! If we had done that this time last year, maybe we might not be in the position we find ourselves in now. Wasnt this also part of our downfall? Offering big money contracts luring players in who only came for the money. the players we have now and probably on far less than those a few years ago as well as on shorter contracts. The difference in the effort these guys put in is phenominal
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 7, 2015 15:55:07 GMT
Completely agree with Qater Gas on trying to get LDV back,joy to watch a confident young lad with a few tricks in his locker and the ability to leave defenders on their arse...but ( and I know my memories not quite what it was)... when was the last time we issued a big money contract to get a big name in ..?!! If we had done that this time last year, maybe we might not be in the position we find ourselves in now. Wasnt this also part of our downfall? Offering big money contracts luring players in who only came for the money. the players we have now and probably on far less than those a few years ago as well as on shorter contracts. The difference in the effort these guys put in is phenominal very true and I wouldn't swap mansell, sincs, brown, taylor etc for others in regard to workrate, professionalism, and a lack of jail time or stupid tweets. HOWEVER, putting goals away is a skill that is always in demand, and we still need it IMO. Only position on the pitch that continually sought after by nearly every team. We'd be top of the lge if we had a 20 goal striker.
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Post by stevek192 on Jan 7, 2015 16:14:01 GMT
From the Bournemouth site Tubbs has now had his contract Mutually terminated which makes him a free agent.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 7, 2015 16:20:18 GMT
That doesn't always work out as didn't we get relegated with Hoskins scoring 20+ goals, plus JJOT would have scored 20 last season if he hadn't gone AWOL around Easter time.
Whilst Tubbs may have scored more goals than Taylor would his work rate have been similar, would we have conceded more by not defending from the front? You now sense we had little chance of signing Tubbs so saying he would have made a difference now seems irrelevent anyway.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 7, 2015 16:21:05 GMT
I actually think we might still be in the running to sign him
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Post by gastee on Jan 7, 2015 16:27:45 GMT
Contract terminated by mutual consent, free agent now, be interesting to see where he goes next! 99% sure like most that it's Pompey but ya never know!
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Post by cheese4ead on Jan 7, 2015 17:26:52 GMT
Is there a possibility that Clarke's being a bit clever and throwing everyone off the scent. Put Tubbs's name out there as someone we are after (mutually beneficial, as they are possibly Buddy's) and then when all the attention is on Bournemouth/Portsmouth sign the guy we have been after all along.
Who in their right mind advertises the player they want to sign a couple of months before the window!
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 7, 2015 18:08:24 GMT
Who in their right mind advertises the player they want to sign a couple of months before the window! men have been carving the names of women in tree trunks for hundreds of years.
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Post by Gashead73 on Jan 7, 2015 18:25:06 GMT
Is there a possibility that Clarke's being a bit clever and throwing everyone off the scent. Put Tubbs's name out there as someone we are after (mutually beneficial, as they are possibly Buddy's) and then when all the attention is on Bournemouth/Portsmouth sign the guy we have been after all along. Who in their right mind advertises the player they want to sign a couple of months before the window! It does sort of make sense!
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 7, 2015 18:48:19 GMT
From the Bournemouth site Tubbs has now had his contract Mutually terminated which makes him a free agent. the detail (and level of detail!) is interesting. Need to play to his strengths. Matt Tubbs' contract at AFC Bournemouth has been cancelled by mutual consent. Tubbs is now a free agent, allowing him to complete a permanent move in the January transfer window. “I’ve always maintained Matt Tubbs is a very good footballer and a scorer of goals," Eddie Howe told the Daily Echo. "I’ve never doubted his ability to score goals provided you play to his strengths. “It was always difficult for Matt bearing in mind the system that we play, the competition for places that we have and the step up in level to the Championship. “This club has moved forward at such a rate and, unfortunately, there are always casualties. “But what I will say about Matt Tubbs is that he’s a great man, an incredible professional and very dedicated. I haven’t had one cross word with him. “I respect him immensely and he’s a fantastic goalscorer. He goes with our best wishes and we hope he continues his excellent career so far." The striker returned to the Goldsands Stadium in January 2012 and helped the Cherries win promotion to the Sky Bet Championship in his first full season. He has spent the following 18 months out on loan, with a spell at former club Crawley Town, as well as stints with Rotherham United and AFC Wimbeldon. The 30-year-old scored 15 goals in 30 appearances in all competitions for the Dons before being recalled. Read more at www.afcb.co.uk/news/article/matt-tubbs-cancels-contract-with-afc-bournemouth-by-mutual-consent-2187707.aspx#L73dQ3TaeeZUmlQt.99
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Post by aghast on Jan 7, 2015 22:03:29 GMT
He's saying that Tubbs isn't good enough to play at top-five Championship level. But then no-one ever thought he was. Not him when he signed for Bournemouth, and not Bournemouth when they signed him. At that time they were happy to sign a good League 1 player who'd performed brilliantly for Crawley. Then along comes that miracle worker Eddie Howe again and whoosh - they're in the Championship. It's like he'd suddenly signed for Derby County - he was out of his depth in the Howe whirlwind.
None of which detracts from the fact that he's a good player at a level two leagues above us, and makes the idea that he'd ever have joined us all the more unlikely.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 7, 2015 23:46:22 GMT
He's saying that Tubbs isn't good enough to play at top-five Championship level. But then no-one ever thought he was. Not him when he signed for Bournemouth, and not Bournemouth when they signed him. At that time they were happy to sign a good League 1 player who'd performed brilliantly for Crawley. Then along comes that miracle worker Eddie Howe again and whoosh - they're in the Championship. It's like he'd suddenly signed for Derby County - he was out of his depth in the Howe whirlwind. None of which detracts from the fact that he's a good player at a level two leagues above us, and makes the idea that he'd ever have joined us all the more unlikely. exactly. Norwich had the same in 2009-11, and soton from 2009-12. had to rapidly get players in and others out as they progressed so fast through the leagues. Both managed it very, very well, especially Norwich.
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