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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 20:55:42 GMT
Was horror show on and off thr pitch, the players weren't up for it, the wrong players on the pitch, the fans off the pitch singing "This is embarrassing" and "Were ducking sh!t". Players we know can be better, we seen only a week ago against the Posh, but for me the "supporters" putting 3 words together thinking they are clever need their heads looking at. The assholes were out in force today , the chants were embarrassing. I don’t think they’re regulars fortunately, as the players came off at the end they were booing them off and screaming all sorts at them , I turned and told them to shut the F##k up !!
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Post by singupgas on Nov 27, 2022 21:01:16 GMT
Was horror show on and off thr pitch, the players weren't up for it, the wrong players on the pitch, the fans off the pitch singing "This is embarrassing" and "Were ducking sh!t". Players we know can be better, we seen only a week ago against the Posh, but for me the "supporters" putting 3 words together thinking they are clever need their heads looking at. The assholes were out in force today , the chants were embarrassing. I don’t think they’re regulars fortunately, as the players came off at the end they were booing them off and screaming all sorts at them , I turned and told them to shut the F##k up !! I was embarrassed by them. Bunch of morons. Can only hope they aren't regulars.
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Post by bluegas on Nov 27, 2022 21:03:30 GMT
Was horror show on and off thr pitch, the players weren't up for it, the wrong players on the pitch, the fans off the pitch singing "This is embarrassing" and "Were ducking sh!t". Players we know can be better, we seen only a week ago against the Posh, but for me the "supporters" putting 3 words together thinking they are clever need their heads looking at. The assholes were out in force today , the chants were embarrassing. I don’t think they’re regulars fortunately, as the players came off at the end they were booing them off and screaming all sorts at them , I turned and told them to shut the F##k up !! Well done you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 21:06:48 GMT
The assholes were out in force today , the chants were embarrassing. I don’t think they’re regulars fortunately, as the players came off at the end they were booing them off and screaming all sorts at them , I turned and told them to shut the F##k up !! Well done you. I tried to ignore it for as long as I could , but they were just being cocks the whole way through the game as well so I did eventually lose my patience with them.
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Post by Somersetgas on Nov 27, 2022 21:28:41 GMT
Was horror show on and off thr pitch, the players weren't up for it, the wrong players on the pitch, the fans off the pitch singing "This is embarrassing" and "Were ducking sh!t". Players we know can be better, we seen only a week ago against the Posh, but for me the "supporters" putting 3 words together thinking they are clever need their heads looking at. The assholes were out in force today , the chants were embarrassing. I don’t think they’re regulars fortunately, as the players came off at the end they were booing them off and screaming all sorts at them , I turned and told them to shut the F##k up !! Had a bloke behind me wanting them to score a third , idiot, didn’t recognise many around me today.
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Post by Congas on Nov 27, 2022 21:37:59 GMT
No excuse for that kind of behaviour, but we were absolute sh*te.
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Post by mftc on Nov 27, 2022 21:57:11 GMT
My 9 year old nephew's first game. Treating him to a seat in the East Stand, hoping it's a goalfest to keep him coming back for more. His 43 year old Dad's first time too, better late than never. 5-1 Gas x ? I am awaiting a child services visit for submitting the poor boy to this. He did enjoy the day though, he got the last programme from the Supporters Club shop and the last oasty from the East Terrace shack. One of those days, but it was all about running. Fair play they never stopped running and were very good at running down the clock, (but so were we with the sideways passing at the back). Unfortunately we ran out of programmes, ran out of pasties and ran out of chips in the kitchen and on the pitch we ran out of ideas. Roll on MK Dons for our cup run.
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Post by dudelebowski on Nov 27, 2022 21:59:32 GMT
2 defeats in 13 in all comps? Poor as today may be, the maroon faced entitled boo boys need a reality check. You’ll definitely see them at Bolton Friday night. Nattttt.
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 27, 2022 22:48:16 GMT
Well that was sh**
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Post by clockendgas on Nov 27, 2022 23:07:25 GMT
If Collins had put that early effort away it would have been completely different game,poor marking for the first goal and head tennis for the second, I really hope the paint was peeling off the dressing room walls cos I'm gutted we are not in the draw,again!!
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Post by playtowin on Nov 28, 2022 6:22:58 GMT
Unfortunately,as we have seen with many great players before. Once you are a coach / manager your game suffers drastically . Whelan having stepped into the coaching role will have lost what he had . Emergency,emergency player fine but realistically you cant have that sort of player in a playing squad. Whelan has been fantastic as a player but he has crossed the white lines to the dugout and needs to focus on that alone now.
Having the strongest midfield of the three players Finley,Rossiter and Coutts leaves only possibly McCormick and Westbrooke as back up. Thats not realistic across a season ,January ideally should see at least one new competition in midfield.
As to the game.
Congratulations to Borehamwood. Another great cup victory to add to their clubs history.
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Post by The Equaliser on Nov 28, 2022 7:23:02 GMT
Finley wasn't forced to play, he wanted to be on the bench so that he could come on if needed. Heard afterwards that a number of the squad that played all the game or came on later were suffering from the same bug. However that’s no excuse. Well to be honest it is an excuse if it’s true, playing a sport at professional level requires peak fitness to perform.
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Post by keygas on Nov 28, 2022 8:05:07 GMT
Heard afterwards that a number of the squad that played all the game or came on later were suffering from the same bug. However that’s no excuse. Well to be honest it is an excuse if it’s true, playing a sport at professional level requires peak fitness to perform. Illness could have played its part in the poor showing yesterday, but personally I find we struggle when we have 2 games in a week, remember a few weeks ago when we turned in a terrific performance at Sheffield Wednesday but followed with a dreadful first half at Derby & obviously this week we had the midweek game at Colchester. But you can’t get away from the fact that we struggle defensively from set pieces & I would be quite happy if we could resign Connor Taylor back on loan as he reads the game & reacts to dangerous situations better than the defenders we have at the club at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 8:53:41 GMT
Well to be honest it is an excuse if it’s true, playing a sport at professional level requires peak fitness to perform. Illness could have played its part in the poor showing yesterday, but personally I find we struggle when we have 2 games in a week, remember a few weeks ago when we turned in a terrific performance at Sheffield Wednesday but followed with a dreadful first half at Derby & obviously this week we had the midweek game at Colchester. But you can’t get away from the fact that we struggle defensively from set pieces & I would be quite happy if we could resign Connor Taylor back on loan as he reads he reads the game & reacts to dangerous situations better than the defenders we have at the club at the moment. I can understand that for when balls are being lumped into the box, but the first goal is a well worked corner with our players being blocked to give the lad on the edge of the box some time. If we'd done our homework on them and watched their corner routines then that one either goes down to us not being switched on and alive to it, or maybe it was a new routine that we hadn't seen in our preparation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 8:53:51 GMT
Yes, illness running through the squad at the moment, i don't get McCormick situation, seems to be struggling with something or other. McCormick is like a different player, doesn't remotely look like impacting a game when given the chance. It's a strange one, seems like he is affected by something or other, not looking like the LM we had first time round. Hope that changes at some point in the near future as he is a decent player.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 8:58:30 GMT
Was horror show on and off thr pitch, the players weren't up for it, the wrong players on the pitch, the fans off the pitch singing "This is embarrassing" and "Were ducking sh!t". Players we know can be better, we seen only a week ago against the Posh, but for me the "supporters" putting 3 words together thinking they are clever need their heads looking at. The assholes were out in force today , the chants were embarrassing. I don’t think they’re regulars fortunately, as the players came off at the end they were booing them off and screaming all sorts at them , I turned and told them to shut the F##k up !! The dreaded so called supporter who plays football on a Saturday and turns up three times a year when were playing on other days. Just the thing the club do not need while building momentum. Nice to know they were fronted up though and told to stfu!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 9:00:10 GMT
Fair play they never stopped running and were very good at running down the clock, (but so were we with the sideways passing at the back). It happens so often when a full back or wing back gets the ball wide, they have no options in front of them so they go backwards or sideways to keep the ball and start again. Clearly though some fans don't realise that players must be under instructions to do this, yet they start getting on the players backs, booing or moaning that they should play it forwards instead.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 28, 2022 9:54:02 GMT
Fair play they never stopped running and were very good at running down the clock, (but so were we with the sideways passing at the back). It happens so often when a full back or wing back gets the ball wide, they have no options in front of them so they go backwards or sideways to keep the ball and start again. Clearly though some fans don't realise that players must be under instructions to do this, yet they start getting on the players backs, booing or moaning that they should play it forwards instead. I think as we are relatively new to this playing it out from the back method a lot of the gas fans just arnt used to seeing it and still want the ball lumped long ala coughlans reign. I for one do not want to see that style of football again and if we have to go back to build forward then so be it. The only caveat I would say to this is yesterday there were 3 times in a row in the space of a few minutes where gibbons received the ball out on the touchline and had Sinclair ahead of him ready for the quick pass. 3 times he dilly dallied on the ball for far too long and had to then go back. He doesn't seem to have the confidence to drive forward which is what I thought his game was all about when we signed him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 10:56:58 GMT
It happens so often when a full back or wing back gets the ball wide, they have no options in front of them so they go backwards or sideways to keep the ball and start again. Clearly though some fans don't realise that players must be under instructions to do this, yet they start getting on the players backs, booing or moaning that they should play it forwards instead. I think as we are relatively new to this playing it out from the back method a lot of the gas fans just arnt used to seeing it and still want the ball lumped long ala coughlans reign. I for one do not want to see that style of football again and if we have to go back to build forward then so be it. The only caveat I would say to this is yesterday there were 3 times in a row in the space of a few minutes where gibbons received the ball out on the touchline and had Sinclair ahead of him ready for the quick pass. 3 times he dilly dallied on the ball for far too long and had to then go back. He doesn't seem to have the confidence to drive forward which is what I thought his game was all about when we signed him. I think how we are playing this season has seen all the full backs / wing backs not really driving forward that often and one thing that is very noticeable to me is that when we get it wide there are very few options in front of them, we aren't playing little triangles between a fullback, midfielder or a forward to get into the box, we aren't trying to get people overlapping too often, everything looks to be trying to find gaps between centre halves to get Collins in. Try and keep a look out for how many times one of our full backs has got up the pitch and is in space high and wide but we rarely pass it out there and we instead try to force something between the centre halves for a forward to get in. Its almost like we are happy to stroke it around to try and work a gap and hope the forward players do their thing and can work some magic. It has to be an instruction because they all do it, I can't think of any other reason and I'm sure JB has alluded to this way of playing in some of his interviews, but sometimes its too slow and ponderous. Sometimes we have looked better for me when we have been chasing a game and have had to force something, but you mentioned Sinclair and Gibbons there, but the same is also true of Gordon and Hoole too because I don't think we are playing a style of football that is giving full backs and wing backs the freedom to be more gung ho. I like the addition of Gibbons and aside from a bad game v Rochdale and the mistake v Derby has done well, but sometimes you can see he is eager (sometimes too eager) to force a pass for him to play off someone. I have a customer at work who lives up in Stoke whos a Port Vale fan and when we signed him he pointed me in the direction of some assists and goals of his from last season, believe it or not he said he played left wing back for most of last season and we saw it the other night in Colchester, gets the ball wide left when he moved to left wing back, great ball in and we score. But I really believe Barton is constraining our full back and wing backs a bit with his style of play and they look more worried about keeping it and moving it backwards and sideways than letting us play with a bit more freedom. I think we need to mix it up a bit and not have players looking worried in case they might give it away, let the full backs join in more and play. I love seeing players overlapping and getting crosses in the box. Yesterday I didn't count one cross into the box in the first half from Gordon or Sinclair. Second half we bring on Clarke and Gibbons and we get loads in there. Mix it up JB, it isn't all about possession stats, because it seems to me like fans are getting frustrated with players going backwards and sideways and that isn't necessarily all their fault.
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Post by thecommander on Nov 28, 2022 11:19:15 GMT
Finley wasn't forced to play, he wanted to be on the bench so that he could come on if needed. Heard afterwards that a number of the squad that played all the game or came on later were suffering from the same bug. However that’s no excuse. Interesting. If you listen to the "Hard Truth" podcast that the Posh Owner Darragh MacAnthony is involved with he states that their squad has been / was decimated by a virus before the Game against Salford and ourselves stating that several player played against us that were not very well, didn't go as far as saying the C word as they don't test them, but certainly intimated it. Coincidence that a lot of ours go down the following week
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