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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jan 13, 2023 23:14:05 GMT
The snakes contract wasn't anything to do with Wael, it was Higgs who dealt with that so we don't need to learn from it, I would hope Wael wouldn't be so silly I think Eddie Jennings is involved in contracts, I can't imagine that he'd have a weak release clause in there.
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Post by toggsy2 on Jan 14, 2023 0:00:22 GMT
The snakes contract wasn't anything to do with Wael, it was Higgs who dealt with that so we don't need to learn from it, I would hope Wael wouldn't be so silly Think you will find it wasn't Higgs that did Snakeys contract, more than likely it was Hamer. Snakey signed a renewed contract in the summer after the season the gas were promoted Wael purchased the club in the February of the same season the gas were promoted. If you remember rightly Wael tweeted about how they could of had him for nothing in the summer
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2023 6:48:08 GMT
Nothing in that article even suggests that, the investment or stadium though
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2023 6:51:25 GMT
View AttachmentDidn't want to start another separate thread but Scunthorpe have had a winding up order served on them by HMRC.Not much fun for their supporters.Having dropped out the league last season( imagine that!!!!!) things have gone from bad to worse.So happy we at least seem stable despite our stadium being Dickensian Always sad to hear of another lower league club going bust. Imagine us being in that situation ? For many of us itâs not just a club but a huge part of our lives. Found out with lockdown just how much I miss it. Hope something can save the iron
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2023 6:54:58 GMT
I would not be surprised if we either do not bring in anyone or just maybe 1-2 loans. I have a feeling much of the budget was used prior to the season. Macrystal being the biggest dud, so far IMO Didn't you mean to post you hope most of the budget was spent, so you've then got something else to be negative about? Like the rest of us on here you really haven't got a clue what JB's been given to spend this window. I NEVER want us to lose or anything like it. Of course I donât know and this is why I said I have a feeling and not posted anything of fact.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2023 7:03:50 GMT
The snakes contract wasn't anything to do with Wael, it was Higgs who dealt with that so we don't need to learn from it, I would hope Wael wouldn't be so silly Think you will find it wasn't Higgs that did Snakeys contract, more than likely it was Hamer. Snakey signed a renewed contract in the summer after the season the gas were promoted Wael purchased the club in the February of the same season the gas were promoted. If you remember rightly Wael tweeted about how they could of had him for nothing in the summer  MT wanted a move and trained away from the squad. We had no choice but to sign in his agents terms if we wanted to keep him. The shock for me is that only the teds came in for him and he has just stagnated ever since. Felt sorry for DC but if a player wants to go then he will. MM is a good example of this
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2023 7:05:21 GMT
Didn't you mean to post you hope most of the budget was spent, so you've then got something else to be negative about? Like the rest of us on here you really haven't got a clue what JB's been given to spend this window. I NEVER want us to lose or anything like it. Of course I donât know and this is why I said I have a feeling and not posted anything of fact. Plus we had lots of names floated around preseason so I am just guessing given that
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Post by 84gas on Jan 14, 2023 7:11:57 GMT
Would it really shock anyone if Collins had a sh*t release clause!! Yes I wouldnât, especially on a 3 year deal. It wonât be awful like Snakes but I bet its no where near 5 million and has future sale add ons. Canât blame the club it benefits both parties.
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 14, 2023 9:49:45 GMT
The snakes contract wasn't anything to do with Wael, it was Higgs who dealt with that so we don't need to learn from it, I would hope Wael wouldn't be so silly Prepared to be corrected here butâŚI thought his first contract was over in Summer â16. That summer he was looking around, didnât get what he wanted so in the end signed a new 6 month contract with us with that let out clause in it and went in January â17. Wael had taken over in Februaryâ16 so it was Wael not Higgs. I understand Higgs is blamed for lots but not this, I think. UTG! ps. Sorry toggsy. Just seen your earlier reply.đ
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 14, 2023 10:00:13 GMT
Think you will find it wasn't Higgs that did Snakeys contract, more than likely it was Hamer. Snakey signed a renewed contract in the summer after the season the gas were promoted Wael purchased the club in the February of the same season the gas were promoted. If you remember rightly Wael tweeted about how they could of had him for nothing in the summer  MT wanted a move and trained away from the squad. We had no choice but to sign in his agents terms if we wanted to keep him. The shock for me is that only the teds came in for him and he has just stagnated ever since. Felt sorry for DC but if a player wants to go then he will. MM is a good example of this That's how I recall it, he/his agent insisted on the release clause. DC admitted at the time of the transfer in January that it was his decision to agree with the knowledge he'd get at least 6 months out of a proven goalscorer and some money. The other option was to not sign him at all. Better something than nothing.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 14, 2023 10:21:49 GMT
MT wanted a move and trained away from the squad. We had no choice but to sign in his agents terms if we wanted to keep him. The shock for me is that only the teds came in for him and he has just stagnated ever since. Felt sorry for DC but if a player wants to go then he will. MM is a good example of this That's how I recall it, he/his agent insisted on the release clause. DC admitted at the time of the transfer in January that it was his decision to agree with the knowledge he'd get at least 6 months out of a proven goalscorer and some money. The other option was to not sign him at all. Better something than nothing. The real questions surrounding the deal to the teds is how they managed to match the release fee exactly, and why they were the only ones in for him. I think most of us know though....
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Post by legas on Jan 14, 2023 10:25:52 GMT
That's how I recall it, he/his agent insisted on the release clause. DC admitted at the time of the transfer in January that it was his decision to agree with the knowledge he'd get at least 6 months out of a proven goalscorer and some money. The other option was to not sign him at all. Better something than nothing. The real questions surrounding the deal to the teds is how they managed to match the release fee exactly, and why they were the only ones in for him. I think most of us know though.... Didnât Lee Johnson and MT have the same agent at the time or was that just rumour?
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Post by alanrg on Jan 14, 2023 10:33:42 GMT
Wasnât the agent for the snake and Johnson the one and only Danny Coles I stand corrected talking about the snake noticed he is out of contract in June
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jan 14, 2023 10:54:08 GMT
That's how I recall it, he/his agent insisted on the release clause. DC admitted at the time of the transfer in January that it was his decision to agree with the knowledge he'd get at least 6 months out of a proven goalscorer and some money. The other option was to not sign him at all. Better something than nothing. The real questions surrounding the deal to the teds is how they managed to match the release fee exactly, and why they were the only ones in for him. I think most of us know though.... The release clause had been published in a Daily Mail article, so was public knowledge. Presumably the information had been given by his agent.
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Post by playtowin on Jan 14, 2023 11:03:02 GMT
The real questions surrounding the deal to the teds is how they managed to match the release fee exactly, and why they were the only ones in for him. I think most of us know though.... The release clause had been published in a Daily Mail article, so was public knowledge. Presumably the information had been given by his agent. Perhaps the error was once the release cause was known factually to some and rumoured to others. That the club should have made the fee public knowledge . Might have tempted more clubs to put an offer in .
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 14, 2023 11:06:25 GMT
The release clause had been published in a Daily Mail article, so was public knowledge. Presumably the information had been given by his agent. Perhaps the error was once the release cause was known factually to some and rumoured to others. That the club should have made the fee public knowledge . Might have tempted more clubs to put an offer in . That's why DC started talking about "not accepting ÂŁ10m", he was trying to get interest going and start a bidding war. Nobody else was interested so ÂŁ300,000 was it.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 14, 2023 11:14:48 GMT
The real questions surrounding the deal to the teds is how they managed to match the release fee exactly, and why they were the only ones in for him. I think most of us know though.... The release clause had been published in a Daily Mail article, so was public knowledge. Presumably the information had been given by his agent. In that case it seems very very strange nobody else wanted a proven striker for ÂŁ300k, especially in January which is notoriously difficult to get value for money
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jan 14, 2023 11:19:17 GMT
MT wanted a move and trained away from the squad. We had no choice but to sign in his agents terms if we wanted to keep him. The shock for me is that only the teds came in for him and he has just stagnated ever since. Felt sorry for DC but if a player wants to go then he will. MM is a good example of this That's how I recall it, he/his agent insisted on the release clause. DC admitted at the time of the transfer in January that it was his decision to agree with the knowledge he'd get at least 6 months out of a proven goalscorer and some money. The other option was to not sign him at all. Better something than nothing. Thanks for that as I was starting to think about editing it. It certainly was under Waelâs watch but not even I can lay any blame here. The damage was done with the very low release number
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 14, 2023 14:13:14 GMT
We may have a sh** defence but at least we had a defence...
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