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Post by Gasshole on Mar 4, 2023 3:56:59 GMT
Surely not going to be caned already FFS. I’ve put a new crew together. The New South South West Stand Ultras. Loud and proud everywhere you go we go….unless it’s a school night or north of Cheltenham. They boys gone be disappointed init. Drum for sale. Hope you remembered to get a good supply of blankets, it can be a tad chilly down that end of the ground. Should be ok Tills I usually chop down a couple of pints of anti freeze in the fan zone. |
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Post by gas2 on Mar 6, 2023 3:49:23 GMT
Anybody see that photo on Facebook of a stadium in Sweden with apartments built in the four corners of the ground the owner rents bout the flats
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Post by Congas on Mar 6, 2023 6:43:06 GMT
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Post by Gasshole on Mar 6, 2023 7:05:10 GMT
Anybody see that photo on Facebook of a stadium in Sweden with apartments built in the four corners of the ground the owner rents bout the flats Yes put me down for a Penthouse, if they’ve none left I guess a Razzle / Mayfair will do. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 10:34:25 GMT
Anybody see that photo on Facebook of a stadium in Sweden with apartments built in the four corners of the ground the owner rents bout the flats Similar to Leyton Orient? |
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Post by Quarters on Mar 6, 2023 11:05:27 GMT
So similar to the original redevelopment plan, apart from flats were for students.
Looking at the original mock-ups there was hardly enough parking space for players. No idea what the plan was for visiting coaches.
Just imaging having all those cars normally in the car park added to on street parking, then the increase in attendance....
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Post by gas2 on Mar 6, 2023 12:38:25 GMT
The one on facebook seems a lot more flats plus wael could have his hotel in one of the four corners |
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Post by aghast on Mar 6, 2023 12:42:14 GMT
So similar to the original redevelopment plan, apart from flats were for students. Looking at the original mock-ups there was hardly enough parking space for players. No idea what the plan was for visiting coaches. Just imaging having all those cars normally in the car park added to on street parking, then the increase in attendance.... It did look exceptionally tight but the council planners must have been aware and approved it anyway, so maybe there was an area of parking not revealed in the images, maybe behind the new East stand. It would never have been passed without some level of adequate parking for staff, visitors, disabled etc. |
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Post by wertongas on Mar 6, 2023 17:20:27 GMT
Hopefully it will be similar to that, from some info I found, metal pre-fab stands cost about 50,000 per hundred seats that is a million pounds for a 2,000 seated stand. If most of those seats get taken within three years the stand should pay for itself. Based that on our season ticket prices. So it is viable to have a temporary stand similar to the one's at Wimbledon,,I just don't know why it wasn't done before. As I pointed out to the club we have lost loads of revenue by not investing in the ground in the past. All well and good, however if the income from the seats is going to offset the cost of the stand, that's 3 years with less of it going into the club coffers for wages etc. Some of it will be additional income to what we have at present, although I can't see us getting 4,000 seats in that space, so it could be a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. You have to speculate to accumulate, investment in a improved stadium leads to more revenue which can then be ploughed back into the club. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 6, 2023 20:22:26 GMT
All well and good, however if the income from the seats is going to offset the cost of the stand, that's 3 years with less of it going into the club coffers for wages etc. Some of it will be additional income to what we have at present, although I can't see us getting 4,000 seats in that space, so it could be a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul. You have to speculate to accumulate, investment in a improved stadium leads to more revenue which can then be ploughed back into the club. Depends what the speculative costs are verses the accumulation though… |
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 6, 2023 20:27:01 GMT
Apart from the £35 million debt he wrote off and the £1 million Training Ground, the £3 million he writes off every year, paying to keep the Club alive through Covid, Fans Zone, yep, pretty much the same. How's that different from any other football league club.. it's hardly got us anywhere. Don't get me wrong he's a nice bloke but the standard of football is right back where he started. If I'm honest I haven't got a clue what the clubs objective is other than just about staying afloat. A lot of the money he's writing off is down to some bloody awful decision making and recruitment on his part. This is something I challenged a few on the OF to do when this statement was made. Go through the club accounts and pick out where the money was wasted, how much that waste is and whether we are repeating the same waste. So far no one has done it. The best we had was that the quarters were a waste of money and we should’ve rented a facility instead. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 6, 2023 20:29:05 GMT
JB talks about a play off push and aiming for the Championship before his contract expires and the club are talking about building a 4,000 seat stand, so you can hardly say from what you've "heard" nothing is likely to change in the next 6 years. If we do manage to build the new stand then it will be the first one with a fixed metal roof we've ever built as a club. We built one alongside the main grandstand at Twerton Park. I used to treat myself and sit in it sometimes.  Brings back memories of sitting in that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 20:29:39 GMT
How's that different from any other football league club.. it's hardly got us anywhere. Don't get me wrong he's a nice bloke but the standard of football is right back where he started. If I'm honest I haven't got a clue what the clubs objective is other than just about staying afloat. A lot of the money he's writing off is down to some bloody awful decision making and recruitment on his part. This is something I challenged a few on the OF to do when this statement was made. Go through the club accounts and pick out where the money was wasted, how much that waste is and whether we are repeating the same waste. So far no one has done it. The best we had was that the quarters were a waste of money and we should’ve rented a facility instead. But surely The Quarters do not feature in the accounts other than as rent if it is charged which I assume it is. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2023 21:37:02 GMT
This is something I challenged a few on the OF to do when this statement was made. Go through the club accounts and pick out where the money was wasted, how much that waste is and whether we are repeating the same waste. So far no one has done it. The best we had was that the quarters were a waste of money and we should’ve rented a facility instead. But surely The Quarters do not feature in the accounts other than as rent if it is charged which I assume it is. The Quarters has always been referred to by the club as their own training ground not one that they rent from Dwaine Sports, isn't this just the type of misinformation SwissGas posts? www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2022/april/2021-accounts-02042022/1. Infrastructure improvements – we were delighted to complete the first phase of our new multi-million pound training facility, The Quarters, during the course of the season. This site has improved the professionalism of the football operation and I have no doubt the results of this will be felt on the pitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 22:24:21 GMT
But surely The Quarters do not feature in the accounts other than as rent if it is charged which I assume it is. The Quarters has always been referred to by the club as their own training ground not one that they rent from Dwaine Sports, isn't this just the type of misinformation SwissGas posts? www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2022/april/2021-accounts-02042022/1. Infrastructure improvements – we were delighted to complete the first phase of our new multi-million pound training facility, The Quarters, during the course of the season. This site has improved the professionalism of the football operation and I have no doubt the results of this will be felt on the pitch. I'm not interested in the semantics I was responding to the point that somebody had suggested that money was wasted on The Quarters which wouldn't appear in the clubs accounts. On the point of semantics, its Dwane Sports.  |
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Post by aghast on Mar 6, 2023 22:34:58 GMT
Dwane Sports/Bristol Rovers
Tomayto/Tomahto
It's all the same thing, just a legal and taxation distinction, controlled by Wael to an overwhelming extent and only concerned with BRFC. If we were ever to be wound up or sold or a big stake invested from outside then the issue of who owns the assets comes into play, but for now it's irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 22:45:52 GMT
Dwane Sports/Bristol Rovers Tomayto/Tomahto It's all the same thing, just a legal and taxation distinction, controlled by Wael to an overwhelming extent and only concerned with BRFC. If we were ever to be wound up or sold or a big stake invested from outside then the issue of who owns the assets comes into play, but for now it's irrelevant. Agreed, but still missing the original point of a suggestion made by somebody to Gashead81. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 6, 2023 23:02:17 GMT
The Quarters has always been referred to by the club as their own training ground not one that they rent from Dwaine Sports, isn't this just the type of misinformation SwissGas posts? www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2022/april/2021-accounts-02042022/1. Infrastructure improvements – we were delighted to complete the first phase of our new multi-million pound training facility, The Quarters, during the course of the season. This site has improved the professionalism of the football operation and I have no doubt the results of this will be felt on the pitch. I'm not interested in the semantics I was responding to the point that somebody had suggested that money was wasted on The Quarters which wouldn't appear in the clubs accounts. On the point of semantics, its Dwane Sports. So why totally ignore the paragraph I posted from the accounts announcement, which quite clearly suggests Rovers own The Quarters, I don't really understand why there's all this mistrust of Wael's. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 6, 2023 23:13:06 GMT
The Quarters has always been referred to by the club as their own training ground not one that they rent from Dwaine Sports, isn't this just the type of misinformation SwissGas posts? www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2022/april/2021-accounts-02042022/1. Infrastructure improvements – we were delighted to complete the first phase of our new multi-million pound training facility, The Quarters, during the course of the season. This site has improved the professionalism of the football operation and I have no doubt the results of this will be felt on the pitch. I'm not interested in the semantics I was responding to the point that somebody had suggested that money was wasted on The Quarters which wouldn't appear in the clubs accounts. On the point of semantics, its Dwane Sports. From memory, it was in relation to saving money in general rather than detailed in the accounts. I read the post '81 is referring to at the time, must say I found it unconvincing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 0:07:25 GMT
I'm not interested in the semantics I was responding to the point that somebody had suggested that money was wasted on The Quarters which wouldn't appear in the clubs accounts. On the point of semantics, its Dwane Sports. So why totally ignore the paragraph I posted from the accounts announcement, which quite clearly suggests Rovers own The Quarters, I don't really understand why there's all this mistrust of Wael's. I do not mistrust Wael and have previously posted how lucky Rovers are to have him as an owner. I read the suggestion you posted. |
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