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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 27, 2023 19:32:04 GMT
"Bath have reached a "historic milestone" as the planning application for the redevelopment of the Recreation Ground has been submitted, said their chief executive. The Premiership club want to build an 18,000 capacity stadium on the site and replace the current temporary stands. Long-running legal disputes and design changes have hampered the plans for a number of years. Bath and North East Somerset Council will now assess the application. "We've taken a huge step forward in terms of submitting our planning application, our proposals for redevelopment for our ground here at The Rec to bring these facilities into the 21st century," chief executive Tarquin McDonald told BBC Points West. The current facilities at the ground date back to the 1950s, with capacity at 14,500. As well as the increased stadium capacity, Bath's plans include regenerating the riverside and also creating a cafe, club shop and museum for non-matchday use. If approved, McDonald said the club hope to be in a position to start the building work during the 2025-26 season, with rugby continuing to be played at The Rec during that time." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66938910Building slap bang in the middle of a World Heritage site! Joint stadium near Hicks Gate? 😃 |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 27, 2023 21:22:31 GMT
Walk away from what exactly? What are the details, financials or plans that are on the table? I know you are trying to be provocative but I obviously do not know any of that, which is all irrelevant anyway. The fact is BP suggest we have done just that, walked away from a chance of building at FM site. Imo redeveloping the Mem has its limits, it's incredibly short sighted. Building what is a small stand really has proved difficult. We don't even have planning permission for it. No worries. It's far from irrelevant though. It's the core of any decision. It's irrelevant on this forum because nobody knows/cares about contributing factors of anything 😆 |
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Post by Gasshole on Sept 27, 2023 23:14:47 GMT
I wonder when we will know if the Fruit Market stadium is now dead in the water? Would be a terrible decision to walk away from the FM imo. You’re possibly right, but I trust the owners to make the correct decision for a long term sustainable future for our club. They know all the financial deets of the deal. In the meantime I’m happy to continue what we do best…….eating sausage rolls and moaning about the bogs. UTG |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 27, 2023 23:29:15 GMT
I know you are trying to be provocative but I obviously do not know any of that, which is all irrelevant anyway. The fact is BP suggest we have done just that, walked away from a chance of building at FM site. Imo redeveloping the Mem has its limits, it's incredibly short sighted. Building what is a small stand really has proved difficult. We don't even have planning permission for it. No worries. It's far from irrelevant though. It's the core of any decision. It's irrelevant on this forum because nobody knows/cares about contributing factors of anything 😆 It's a fans forum.. you will only see people opinions. I wouldnt get caught up on whether it's correct or not. If you could only comment based on facts then there would be no posts. |
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Post by gas2 on Sept 28, 2023 0:55:46 GMT
Building slap bang in the middle of a World Heritage site! Joint stadium near Hicks Gate? 😃 There were plans for a stadium at hicks gate years ago can't remember who suggested it tho |
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Post by pucklegas on Sept 28, 2023 4:59:13 GMT
Joint stadium near Hicks Gate? 😃 There were plans for a stadium at hicks gate years ago can't remember who suggested it tho There has been as many stadium projects as Now that's what I call music, and I remember number 1, a joint project is a very good idea the location would have to suit both clubs, and I suspect they would want to remain in Bath. |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 28, 2023 6:20:33 GMT
No worries. It's far from irrelevant though. It's the core of any decision. It's irrelevant on this forum because nobody knows/cares about contributing factors of anything 😆 It's a fans forum.. you will only see people opinions. I wouldnt get caught up on whether it's correct or not. If you could only comment based on facts then there would be no posts. Ah right, so it's only your opinion that it would be a terrible decision to walk away. What is your opinion based on? In terms of getting 'caught up'. That's not going to happen after hundreds of pages of BS and opinion, but I am interested in what makes a terrible decision, since your opinion might be useful. Or, you might actually know something which hasn't been disclosed on here yet. |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 28, 2023 7:12:16 GMT
It's a fans forum.. you will only see people opinions. I wouldnt get caught up on whether it's correct or not. If you could only comment based on facts then there would be no posts. Ah right, so it's only your opinion that it would be a terrible decision to walk away. What is your opinion based on? In terms of getting 'caught up'. That's not going to happen after hundreds of pages of BS and opinion, but I am interested in what makes a terrible decision, since your opinion might be useful. Or, you might actually know something which hasn't been disclosed on here yet. Already told you that I don't know the details. I am just a supporter like yourself. My opinion is simply based on the difficulty we have had getting PP, applied for in April. The site isn't particularly big, if we went for the 18K that people have suggested, if we're to reach dizzy heights, would we easily be able to increase capacity - I doubt, but I also can't accurately predict the future. Further to the above. I am sceptical about what we would end up with. If the South Stand isn't so temporary, then would end up with a ground that has pillars everywhere? It is the sort of stand you have built 40 years ago. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Sept 28, 2023 7:16:48 GMT
Ah right, so it's only your opinion that it would be a terrible decision to walk away. What is your opinion based on? In terms of getting 'caught up'. That's not going to happen after hundreds of pages of BS and opinion, but I am interested in what makes a terrible decision, since your opinion might be useful. Or, you might actually know something which hasn't been disclosed on here yet. Already told you that I don't know the details. I am just a supporter like yourself. My opinion is simply based on the difficulty we have had getting PP, applied for in April. The site isn't particularly big, if we went for the 18K that people have suggested, if we're to reach dizzy heights, would we easily be able to increase capacity - I doubt, but I also can't accurately predict the future. The reason we have had difficulty getting planning permission is because of the massive backlog created by the inability of BCC. It’s as simple as that! |
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Post by ebgas on Sept 28, 2023 7:27:58 GMT
Any pictures of the progress this week?
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 28, 2023 7:52:00 GMT
There were plans for a stadium at hicks gate years ago can't remember who suggested it tho There has been as many stadium projects as Now that's what I call music, and I remember number 1, a joint project is a very good idea the location would have to suit both clubs, and I suspect they would want to remain in Bath. No,no,no rugby players on pristine football pitches don't work🙄🙄 |
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 28, 2023 8:07:37 GMT
There were plans for a stadium at hicks gate years ago can't remember who suggested it tho There has been as many stadium projects as Now that's what I call music, and I remember number 1, a joint project is a very good idea the location would have to suit both clubs, and I suspect they would want to remain in Bath. Showing your age there with the Now that's what I call music reference. I remember buying 9? on CD in the eighties, Johnny hates jazz etc. Anyone under 30 wondering what a CD is  . Anyway this isn't football related so I'll shut up |
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Post by supergas on Sept 28, 2023 8:16:20 GMT
...I am sceptical about what we would end up with. If the South Stand isn't so temporary, then would end up with a ground that has pillars everywhere? It is the sort of stand you have built 40 years ago. ...thankfully whilst we know next to nothing about the current state of the Fruit Market negotiations, we do know a lot about the South/SW stand and why it's been built the way it is... It has been designed and is being built to keep costs low. It is designed to fit the maximum number of seats into what is a small area (even with the pitch move). So they could have cantilevered the roof, but that would add potentially hundreds of thousands to the costs, probably losing 3/4 rows of seats (over 10% of the stand's capacity), and it would have delayed the build even further as more and deeper piling work would have been required. It's not temporary in the sense that the tents were, but it is temporary in the sense that there is little or no above-ground concrete, and very little plumbing or electrical work required. Every indication is that it was not planned to be there in 5+ years time and so a few pillars are not unreasonable... |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 28, 2023 8:18:32 GMT
There were plans for a stadium at hicks gate years ago can't remember who suggested it tho There has been as many stadium projects as Now that's what I call music, and I remember number 1, a joint project is a very good idea the location would have to suit both clubs, and I suspect they would want to remain in Bath. Cool fact, On every "Now That's What I Call Music" album that features a Queen song (there have been 26) Queen is always the first track on the album |
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 28, 2023 8:23:02 GMT
There has been as many stadium projects as Now that's what I call music, and I remember number 1, a joint project is a very good idea the location would have to suit both clubs, and I suspect they would want to remain in Bath. Cool fact, On every "Now That's What I Call Music" album that features a Queen song (there have been 26) Queen is always the first track on the album I'm going to have to check that fact. I think there were a lot more than 26. I'm pretty certain there was no queen on the compilation I had. It had Freddy Mercury and Monserat Ceballiet, Barcelone though. |
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Post by singupgas on Sept 28, 2023 8:25:20 GMT
...I am sceptical about what we would end up with. If the South Stand isn't so temporary, then would end up with a ground that has pillars everywhere? It is the sort of stand you have built 40 years ago. ...thankfully whilst we know next to nothing about the current state of the Fruit Market negotiations, we do know a lot about the South/SW stand and why it's been built the way it is... It has been designed and is being built to keep costs low. It is designed to fit the maximum number of seats into what is a small area (even with the pitch move). So they could have cantilevered the roof, but that would add potentially hundreds of thousands to the costs, probably losing 3/4 rows of seats (over 10% of the stand's capacity), and it would have delayed the build even further as more and deeper piling work would have been required. It's not temporary in the sense that the tents were, but it is temporary in the sense that there is little or no above-ground concrete, and very little plumbing or electrical work required. Every indication is that it was not planned to be there in 5+ years time and so a few pillars are not unreasonable... Agreed. |
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Post by heartofgas on Sept 28, 2023 8:26:18 GMT
Just checked, 115 of them. Last release was this year! Who the hell buys compilation albums in this day and age?
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 28, 2023 8:29:26 GMT
Just checked, 115 of them. Last release was this year! Who the hell buys compilation albums in this day and age? There have been 26 Queen songs |
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Post by ricardo on Sept 28, 2023 9:14:10 GMT
Back in hope of another picture update…
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 28, 2023 9:17:20 GMT
Ah right, so it's only your opinion that it would be a terrible decision to walk away. What is your opinion based on? In terms of getting 'caught up'. That's not going to happen after hundreds of pages of BS and opinion, but I am interested in what makes a terrible decision, since your opinion might be useful. Or, you might actually know something which hasn't been disclosed on here yet. Already told you that I don't know the details. I am just a supporter like yourself. My opinion is simply based on the difficulty we have had getting PP, applied for in April. The site isn't particularly big, if we went for the 18K that people have suggested, if we're to reach dizzy heights, would we easily be able to increase capacity - I doubt, but I also can't accurately predict the future. Further to the above. I am sceptical about what we would end up with. If the South Stand isn't so temporary, then would end up with a ground that has pillars everywhere? It is the sort of stand you have built 40 years ago. Fair enough. So the opinion that it would be terrible to walk away from the FM, is due to the assumption that all eggs will be in the basket of developing the Mem. Thus is despite knowing nothing about the FM situation, neither the intentions of the club regarding the medium/long term plans for the mem/new ground. So, you think we should have kept the tents and lingered around Conygar a while longer without knowing any detail? Or is it possible that the club have made a decision because they might know a little more than the zilch known by me and you? |
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