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Post by The Equaliser on Oct 12, 2023 15:18:52 GMT
I sympathise with our problem, however we must allow residents an opinion on something that like it or not affects their lives.
Of course we can say ‘you moved into a home when there was a football team playing adjacent’ but they are still entitled to voice their thoughts. Plus let’s please not generalise whether they are all Green Party voters or what income they are on, that’s a little unfair in my opinion.
I want our stadium to progress as much as anyone but let’s not turn this into a battle 👍🏾
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Post by oldmarket65 on Oct 12, 2023 15:25:39 GMT
Exactly - they don’t have an emotional connection with Bristol because they’re not from Bristol. Their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, etc didn’t stand on the terraces at Eastville or Twerton watching Rovers. They’re affluent and middle-class, which is why they can afford to be Greens. They have no affinity for us of our club whatsoever. That's also an issue for the club that we can have people living in the vicinity, fresh to the area that don't want to be involved in the club. There's no attempt to really galvanise interest in our neighbours or the new people to the city as a whole. When you compare that to the clubs under the Bristol Sport umbrella it's pretty poor. This is unique to Bristol Rovers!. I lived close to Ashton gate after moving from the inner city. There was a lot of middle class people moving into the chessels and Southville from the home counties. But they embraced the football / rugby club hence NO opposition. I know of people who live in Cardiff and say the same that middle class people are moving in . However : on the whole they embrace the football / rugby clubs. Hence very little opposition. This group are totally different and are well organised and versatile in hoping from one group to another. I say again there is NO football club in the England who face this level of opposition. How do I know ? Read the Areofilm guide to football grounds or the editions by Duncan Adams in the last 20 years . Accrington Stanley : A.F.C Wimbledon and US was the only three teams who haven't built a stand in 20 years . Also I bet the level of objections will surpass the last even though the club have been talking via Emma Edwards for nearly 9 months. Edit. Since the Duncan Adams edition 2018 . Wimbledon have built a new stadium ( 2020) and Accrington a new stand ( 2021).
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Post by oviedista on Oct 12, 2023 15:37:42 GMT
I sympathise with our problem, however we must allow residents an opinion on something that like it or not affects their lives. Of course we can say ‘you moved into a home when there was a football team playing adjacent’ but they are still entitled to voice their thoughts. Plus let’s please not generalise whether they are all Green Party voters or what income they are on, that’s a little unfair in my opinion. I want our stadium to progress as much as anyone but let’s not turn this into a battle 👍🏾 Agree but unfortunately this thread has been set on a raging battle full of conspiracy and generalisations for quite a while now and is very unlikely to change.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 12, 2023 15:43:16 GMT
That's also an issue for the club that we can have people living in the vicinity, fresh to the area that don't want to be involved in the club. There's no attempt to really galvanise interest in our neighbours or the new people to the city as a whole. When you compare that to the clubs under the Bristol Sport umbrella it's pretty poor. This is unique to Bristol Rovers!. I lived close to Ashton gate after moving from the inner city. There was a lot of middle class people moving into the chessels and Southville from the home counties. But they embraced the football / rugby club hence NO opposition. I know of people who live in Cardiff and say the same that middle class people are moving in . However : on the whole they embrace the football / rugby clubs. Hence very little opposition. This group are totally different and are well organised and versatile in hoping from one group to another. I say again there is NO football club in the England who face this level of opposition. How do I know ? Read the Areofilm guide to football grounds or the editions by Duncan Adams in the last 20 years . Accrington Stanley : A.F.C Wimbledon and US was the only three teams who haven't built a stand in 20 years . Also I bet the level of objections will surpass the last even though the club have been talking via Emma Edwards for nearly 9 months. Edit. Since the Duncan Adams edition 2018 . Wimbledon have built a new stadium ( 2020) and Accrington a new stand ( 2021). There is absolutely zero doubt that we are one of the most ridiculously underdeveloped clubs in the country in terms of facilities. However frustrating that fact is we have a unique history and set of circumstances that go well beyond the objections of Joanne at number 34.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Oct 12, 2023 15:44:55 GMT
I sympathise with our problem, however we must allow residents an opinion on something that like it or not affects their lives. Of course we can say ‘you moved into a home when there was a football team playing adjacent’ but they are still entitled to voice their thoughts. Plus let’s please not generalise whether they are all Green Party voters or what income they are on, that’s a little unfair in my opinion. I want our stadium to progress as much as anyone but let’s not turn this into a battle 👍🏾 Agree but unfortunately this thread has been set on a raging battle full of conspiracy and generalisations for quite a while now and is very unlikely to change. It's not a raging battle. There is clear evidence that groups form and opposes every single plan the club submits . If the club was a homeless charity or community provision and local groups were formed. It would be clear evidence of prejudice against homeless people or community provision. What's the difference about a community football club ?. Equally every other club have built stands or improved grounds with little or NO opposition. Bristol City F.C received O objections. Of course local people are allowed to voice opinions . But it's just denying the Anti against our club !.
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 12, 2023 15:56:46 GMT
I sympathise with our problem, however we must allow residents an opinion on something that like it or not affects their lives. Of course we can say ‘you moved into a home when there was a football team playing adjacent’ but they are still entitled to voice their thoughts. Plus let’s please not generalise whether they are all Green Party voters or what income they are on, that’s a little unfair in my opinion. I want our stadium to progress as much as anyone but let’s not turn this into a battle 👍🏾 You are correct. No one knows who the residents are. Although they can afford a £300K to £500K house. Of course they can have a opinion and planning will decide if those objections carry any weight. It seems to be the general theme running through the objections is that it is more to do with the general concerns about Rovers (Travel, parking, disruption and rowdiness). I do think it is a valid point that the residents have moved in since rovers have been playing at the Mem. They knew what it would be like ( or if they did any research they would have known). That's not to say they can't be upset by it but it does mean that the south stand development doesn't really add to any of this so isn't a valid planning consideration. I think in general there should be a transport plan for getting in and out of the ground. I think if we went any higher on capacity then it would be reasonable that some of the closest local roads became resident only parking on match days. I also do accept that i wouldn't be happy if a massive new structure was built at the end of my garden.
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Post by heartofgas on Oct 12, 2023 16:00:53 GMT
I sympathise with our problem, however we must allow residents an opinion on something that like it or not affects their lives. Of course we can say ‘you moved into a home when there was a football team playing adjacent’ but they are still entitled to voice their thoughts. Plus let’s please not generalise whether they are all Green Party voters or what income they are on, that’s a little unfair in my opinion. I want our stadium to progress as much as anyone but let’s not turn this into a battle 👍🏾 Agree but unfortunately this thread has been set on a raging battle full of conspiracy and generalisations for quite a while now and is very unlikely to change. Agree then make a comment that is likely to result in more battle. Hmmmm.
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Post by keygas on Oct 12, 2023 16:04:33 GMT
Can’t believe these objectors keep bringing up the same nonsense about traffic & parking, out of 365 days probably less than 30 days, will the stadium be used. I live close to a school & for around 200 days a year, if I drive off early in the morning, I can rarely park close to my property because of parents dropping off or collecting their children or school visitor’s parking outside, but I accept it because I knew the school was there when I bought my house & realised there would always be associated issues. The Mem as been a sports ground for over 100 years, long before any of the objectors brought there properties & like me should accept it. Less than 15 minutes walk away in the same Ashley Down Ward, Gloucestershire CC stage England international cricket matches & the odd concert, but I never hear the same traffic & parking issues being raised, this group of protesters are either anti football or anti Bristol Rovers FC.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Oct 12, 2023 16:11:13 GMT
Can’t believe these objectors keep bringing up the same nonsense about traffic & parking, out of 365 days maybe less than 30 days is the stadium is used. I live close to a school & for around 200 days a year, if I drive off early in the morning, I can rarely park close to my property because of parents dropping off or collecting their children or school visitor’s parking outside, but I accept it because I knew the school was there when I bought my house & realised there would always be associated issues. The Mem as been a sports ground for over 100 years, long before any of the objectors brought there properties & like me should accept it. Less than 15 minutes walk away in the same Ashley Down Ward, Gloucestershire CC stage England international cricket matches & the odd concert, but I never hear the same traffic & parking issues being raised, this group of protesters are just either anti football or anti Bristol Rovers FC. All I know is to form four groups in 15 plus years ( Horfield Rose : Trash : F.O.M.S and No to south stand) seems a bit O.T.T . Interestingly there hasn't been one group formed against Bristol City or Cardiff or Swindon or Yeovil. In fact can anyone name one protest group against any other club in the south west due to ground developments ?.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 12, 2023 16:16:47 GMT
Agree but unfortunately this thread has been set on a raging battle full of conspiracy and generalisations for quite a while now and is very unlikely to change. Agree then make a comment that is likely to result in more battle. Hmmmm. Don't intend to but probably being flippant as feel it really won't make any difference will it? I'm much more interested in reading the constructive sharing of information when it arises.
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Post by bluetooth0077 on Oct 12, 2023 16:21:57 GMT
Living in the area I'm fully aware of these people and the illogical reasoning. A section of the middle class people in this area will fight tooth and nail to protect their property values there utopia which is Gloucester road and it's very expensive independent traders cough cough and keep the working class at arms distance. As I stated before they have little emotional attachment to Bristol and obviously are not interested in Bristol rovers FC as a community asset and a important part of the cities heritage
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 12, 2023 16:23:37 GMT
You cant win with local residents. Made a fuss when we planned to sell to Sainsbury's, now unhappy with a piddly stand being built.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Oct 12, 2023 16:28:47 GMT
Living in the area I'm fully aware of these people and the illogical reasoning. A section of the middle class people in this area will fight tooth and nail to protect their property values there utopia which is Gloucester road and it's very expensive independent traders cough cough and keep the working class at arms distance. As I stated before they have little emotional attachment to Bristol and obviously are not interested in Bristol rovers FC as a community asset and a important part of the cities heritage It would seem on the face of it prejudice against working class football fans . And I simply ask a reasonable question. Can someone post a link of one group formed who opposed football stadium development in the south west in 20 years ?. There is evidence 4 groups have been formed to oppose us. I am asking one group opposed to the entire network of football clubs in the south west to be submitted on this forum ?. You can choose from A..F.C bournemouth to Yeovil alphabetically.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2023 16:34:41 GMT
Living in the area I'm fully aware of these people and the illogical reasoning. A section of the middle class people in this area will fight tooth and nail to protect their property values there utopia which is Gloucester road and it's very expensive independent traders cough cough and keep the working class at arms distance. As I stated before they have little emotional attachment to Bristol and obviously are not interested in Bristol rovers FC as a community asset and a important part of the cities heritage they certainly won't show any interest or want to affiliate to the club when the post and other media outlets call us bristols blue collar club.they would rather drive up to Gloucester to watch stale minces team
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Post by bluesky on Oct 12, 2023 16:42:12 GMT
This is going to make such a difference.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 12, 2023 16:44:53 GMT
Pretty sure people can move where they like in this country and it’s not an offence. Also as far as I’m aware there’s nothing to say you have to support the local football club.
That said , they seem to be a sad bunch of professional moaners 😀
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Post by The Equaliser on Oct 12, 2023 16:50:38 GMT
Pretty sure people can move where they like in this country and it’s not an offence. Also as far as I’m aware there’s nothing to say you have to support the local football club. That said , they seem to be a sad bunch of professional moaners 😀 Professional moaners? Well at least they have something in common with many on here then 😂
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Oct 12, 2023 19:01:05 GMT
I have noticed that the roads around many stadiums around the country are designated NO PARKING on Match Days.
Chelsea and Luton Town are good examples.
In a spirit of co-operation I suggest that the area of ALTON ROAD nearest the stadium and the area of FILTON AVENUE close to The Mem be two prime examples of roads to be closed on match days. This would also include the three short entrance areas from FILTON AVENUE into the stadium. How selfish are those people who place their trailers in these spaces on a semi-permanent basis?
Closing these areas to cars on match days would be of real benefit in terms of traffic flow and the health and safety of spectators.
I also suggest that serious consideration be given to reopening the stadium entrance on ALTON ROAD. It was open in the past when Bristol Shoguns were at The Mem. It was also due to be reopened as part of the Sainsbury's planning application.
These and other radical proposals have not been given much attention. It is time that the newcomers within the local community accept that they live beside a asset of considerable community value and engage in a positive and responsible way with a very long established Bristol institution.
Is it really acceptable that Bristol Rovers are aggressively opposed by a small, privileged and entitled elite whatever they attempt to do?
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Post by bluesky on Oct 12, 2023 19:16:14 GMT
The colour of the seats will be Pantone 286c Blue
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Post by tbonegas on Oct 12, 2023 19:29:38 GMT
The colour of the seats will be Pantone 286c Blue Do you mean PMS 286? The C stands for Coated as opposed to U which stands for Uncoated. These Colours are used in the printing industry as a matching system for different types of paper stock. It will be interesting to see if the seats are coated or Uncoated.
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