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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 2, 2023 17:04:10 GMT
I can't say 100% by I reckon this will be a full cabinet meeting as Richard Eddy is usually on group A . This means lots of members and a big Green representation as the biggest group on council. All will be revealed when the agendas come out next week. We must REGISTER our support to this committee it is very important. Looking at the list of meeting attendees there are 9 councillors on committee A, so not a great number of councillors. Source. The recent announcement by BCC about the meeting OK it's been confirmed as Group A usually North Bristol is group B. I'm sure this is accurate once the agenda is out we can nail names to committee. It may be one or two other councillors could join from B to give advice ?. Anyway one last push to write to councillors once list as been confirmed . Please SUPPORT !.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 2, 2023 17:09:02 GMT
There is a planning application currently underway for Bath Rugby club. Planning Application Reference: 23/03558/EFUL Less than 100 Objections have been received and more than 1,300 Support comments have been posted. Perhaps Gasheads might learn from their experience and utilise their approach in the years ahead. *** I thought this positive support comment was of interest. The comment seems to take an approach that would be valuable to any future expansion plans at The Home Of Bristol Sport, The Memorial Stadium. *** 30/09/2023: As an avid rugby enthusiast and a proud member of this community, I wholeheartedly endorse the development of a new stadium for our beloved sport. A state-of-the-art stadium is not merely a structure of bricks and steel; it is the heartbeat of our passion, the arena where dreams are forged, and the place where unforgettable memories are created. This project represents more than just a physical upgrade; it symbolises our commitment to the growth of sporting opportunities in our region. It is an investment in our youth, providing them with a world-class facility to nurture their talent and inspire future generations. It promises to bring together our diverse community, uniting us under the banner of sport, fostering camaraderie, and promoting a healthy lifestyle. Moreover, a new stadium holds the potential to attract national and international events, putting Bath firmly on the map and boosting our local economy. It's an opportunity to showcase our history, hospitality, culture, and the unique spirit of our community to visitors from far and wide. In essence, this stadium is not just about rugby; it's about community, opportunity, and pride. It's about building a legacy that will endure for generations to come. I urge all stakeholders to embrace this endeavor, for it has the power to transform not only our The Recreation Ground but our collective spirit and identity as well. Not to put a dampener on this, but the Rec hasn't got nearly the number of houses near it compared to the Mem. Comparing apples and oranges here I'm afraid. Plenty for the club to learn here though, their consultation started back in 2013! www.bathrugby.com/stadium-for-bath/what-you-told-us Its not rocket science is it Slightly different . It's 18000 on a World heritage site with 4 height flats to the North and a listed recreational park to the East. Ours is a 3300 stand which is similar to grounds in National leauge ( if your a geek) and buy areoplane lists to grounds in England like me. footballgroundguide.com/leagues/conference/conference-premier/proact-stadium-chesterfield.html
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 2, 2023 17:23:32 GMT
Councillors at meeting Eddy Heater Hence Hathaway Holme Hussain Jackson Orourke Varney
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 2, 2023 17:28:52 GMT
Councillors at meeting Eddy Heater Hence Hathaway Holme Hussain Jackson Orourke Varney It's possible that will be the list. However let's wait until it is confirmed on the council website next Tuesday. Once the agenda is released it will list attendees with a link . I expect your list will be accurate.
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Post by dexygas on Nov 2, 2023 18:46:20 GMT
Phew Phew Barney Mcgrew Cuthbert Dibble Grub
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 3, 2023 11:00:12 GMT
Just letting people know objections are still be added on planning protal so must be an extension. The latest being ;
" we support a community stadium and the facility to be used for sporting but object to the new stand ". Basically he says " That when the stadium was built in 1920 it reassured locals about noise and disruption.
In order words it wants a stadium to block any other planning like retail but would like the stadium to stay exactly as it is.
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Post by kruger on Nov 3, 2023 11:15:24 GMT
Just letting people know objections are still be added on planning protal so must be an extension. The latest being ; " we support a community stadium and the facility to be used for sporting but object to the new stand ". Basically he says " That when the stadium was built in 1920 it reassured locals about noise and disruption. In order words it wants a stadium to block any other planning like retail but would like the stadium to stay exactly as it is. I wonder if this idiot has done any work to his house
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Post by eric on Nov 3, 2023 12:04:34 GMT
Just letting people know objections are still be added on planning protal so must be an extension. The latest being ; " we support a community stadium and the facility to be used for sporting but object to the new stand ". Basically he says " That when the stadium was built in 1920 it reassured locals about noise and disruption. In order words it wants a stadium to block any other planning like retail but would like the stadium to stay exactly as it is. I wonder if this idiot has done any work to his house Probably an ugly loft extension, divided up all the bedrooms and rented out to a dozen students like a lot of houses in the area !!!
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Post by roversteve on Nov 3, 2023 12:05:51 GMT
The support letter posted today is brilliant from a neighbour and what sense they've talked, worth a read. Keep the support letters coming in right up until the 15th November or when the closing date is prior to planning meeting.
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 3, 2023 12:17:26 GMT
Just letting people know objections are still be added on planning protal so must be an extension. The latest being ; " we support a community stadium and the facility to be used for sporting but object to the new stand ". Basically he says " That when the stadium was built in 1920 it reassured locals about noise and disruption. In order words it wants a stadium to block any other planning like retail but would like the stadium to stay exactly as it is. I think you can still send letters after the cut off date but they aren't guaranteed to be considered by the planning officer. As for that comment they add plenty of disruption with their own motor carriages parked everywhere and bins deliberately left out on the pavements.
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Post by hartcliffegas on Nov 3, 2023 12:22:17 GMT
The support letter posted today is brilliant from a neighbour and what sense they've talked, worth a read. Keep the support letters coming in right up until the 15th November or when the closing date is prior to planning meeting. It's a great read!
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Post by gonzales on Nov 3, 2023 12:27:47 GMT
The support letter posted today is brilliant from a neighbour and what sense they've talked, worth a read. Keep the support letters coming in right up until the 15th November or when the closing date is prior to planning meeting. It's a great read! Commenter Type: Neighbour Stance: Customer made comments in support of the Planning Application Comment Reasons: Comment: I live about 15 mins walk from the stadium so class myself as a neighbour. On match days the long road that I live on has an increased amount of cars parked on it. The reality is that this is a very small number of days per year and the disruption is minimal. I have no issue with more people attending and more cars parked on roads nearby. I have never experienced an issue with fans etc. I believe that Bristol rovers are well within their rights to expand the stadium, as one of Bristol's main sports teams they need to improve facilities to keep up with competition and increase fan numbers to increase revenue. I would imagine that almost every residential neighbour to the stadium has bought their house knowing that a football stadium was next door and therefore quite possible and likely to expand/improve the stadium. Yes Bristol rovers should do so with consideration of their neighbours, perhaps in the future include things such as a gym, restaurant etc that local neighbours can use when the stadium is not in use. If we look at the stadium in south Bristol, that seems to have been rebuilt with no apparent issues and one stand is huge. The reality is that a stadium is a minor inconvenience as it is used on a very small percentage of days throughout the year and the benefits would actually outweigh those negatives. More income for local businesses, more facilities for locals to use etc. I've been to the stadium a few times and it is very outdated, not fit for purpose. What is the alternative? A supermarket? More housing? I believe Bristol rovers have tried looking elsewhere and that is even more problematic. Let's not hold back our sports teams, let the stadium be rebuilt/improved. Hindsight is a wonderful things and perhaps if those neighbours didn't want to live next to a football stadium then they shouldn't have bought a house there.
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Post by supergas on Nov 3, 2023 12:31:01 GMT
It's also weird to read what I wrote on this forum submitted as a supporting comment...I just hope it's treated in the sense I assume it was meant, rather than someone just copying and pasting from a forum....
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Post by wertongas on Nov 3, 2023 14:52:22 GMT
HERE WE GO. *** Is this the first of two potential attempts to delay, derail and disrupt? Just like in previous Memorial Stadium planning applications the legal and regulatory route is explored. *** *** (Appears on the planing portal at the very last moment. Straight after key announcements are made.)*** BUILDING CONTROL ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT FORM. Address of alleged breach Memorial Stadium, Filton Avenue, Bristol BS7 0AQ Description of what has happened in as much detail as possible: Dear Sir, With regard to planning application 23/03826/F, Replacement of the current South and South West Stands. The planning portal shows that a Contaminated Land Desk Study has been carried out on behalf of Bristol Rovers Football club which appears very detailed, and the conclusions clear and to the point, but this Hydrock report does state that the findings of the report should be updated after they have receipt of the Atkins (2007) report. I believe the Atkins report was completed after a serious of bore holes samples had been collected from various positions around the stadium, this work being carried out in preparation for the redevelopment of the whole stadium as approved in 2006 (06/03850/F). You may be aware the stadium playing field ‘plateau’ was created in 1920/21 by removing soil and limestone from the North and Eastern sides of what was a slope at the time,to the Western and Southern slopes. The recommendation in the Hydrock report is for further work to be undertaken following the ground investigation works carried out up to September 2013, including the Atkins report, as there is still a need to confirm the ground conditions onsite which will involve further discussions with ‘regulatory bodies and the warranty provider’. Bearing in mind the 'made ground' is of loose material and that there are recorded aquifers in the areas of the ground I would suggest the survey/report should be completed urgently, and certainly before the stand is completed and brought into use. Whilst other areas close to the stadium are shown in the Hydrock report, highlighting changes in geology and landscape and indicating ‘Worked Ground’ and ‘Made Ground’where necessary, and of course highlighting contaminated and industrial land, this information is not apparent for the stadium site itself, a detail which may influence construction details associated with the new stand build. As far as I’m aware no large-scale building(s) has been constructed at the South side and South Western corner of the Stadium site where the made ground is at its deepest, and it is only during recent years that small scale ‘temporary stands’ have appeared. To summarise, the work to investigate the ground conditions for the new stand at the Memorial stadium appears not completed according to the report, a situation which should, in my opinion, be rectified before the stand is occupied by any significant number of people. Regards How long has the breach been occurring? Since May this year, though no Geological report appeared on the planning portal until the new planning application appeared in October. What a load of bull, the stand has been constructed using piling so that the foundations are built on solid ground(usually bedrock) this alleviates any concerns regarding the structure of soil, subsoil immediatly below the stand. Imagine this report will be filed in the bin. TG informs me building control have been making regular visits to the site.
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Post by barumgas on Nov 3, 2023 15:10:40 GMT
HERE WE GO. *** Is this the first of two potential attempts to delay, derail and disrupt? Just like in previous Memorial Stadium planning applications the legal and regulatory route is explored. *** *** (Appears on the planing portal at the very last moment. Straight after key announcements are made.)*** BUILDING CONTROL ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT FORM. Address of alleged breach Memorial Stadium, Filton Avenue, Bristol BS7 0AQ Description of what has happened in as much detail as possible: Dear Sir, With regard to planning application 23/03826/F, Replacement of the current South and South West Stands. The planning portal shows that a Contaminated Land Desk Study has been carried out on behalf of Bristol Rovers Football club which appears very detailed, and the conclusions clear and to the point, but this Hydrock report does state that the findings of the report should be updated after they have receipt of the Atkins (2007) report. I believe the Atkins report was completed after a serious of bore holes samples had been collected from various positions around the stadium, this work being carried out in preparation for the redevelopment of the whole stadium as approved in 2006 (06/03850/F). You may be aware the stadium playing field ‘plateau’ was created in 1920/21 by removing soil and limestone from the North and Eastern sides of what was a slope at the time,to the Western and Southern slopes. The recommendation in the Hydrock report is for further work to be undertaken following the ground investigation works carried out up to September 2013, including the Atkins report, as there is still a need to confirm the ground conditions onsite which will involve further discussions with ‘regulatory bodies and the warranty provider’. Bearing in mind the 'made ground' is of loose material and that there are recorded aquifers in the areas of the ground I would suggest the survey/report should be completed urgently, and certainly before the stand is completed and brought into use. Whilst other areas close to the stadium are shown in the Hydrock report, highlighting changes in geology and landscape and indicating ‘Worked Ground’ and ‘Made Ground’where necessary, and of course highlighting contaminated and industrial land, this information is not apparent for the stadium site itself, a detail which may influence construction details associated with the new stand build. As far as I’m aware no large-scale building(s) has been constructed at the South side and South Western corner of the Stadium site where the made ground is at its deepest, and it is only during recent years that small scale ‘temporary stands’ have appeared. To summarise, the work to investigate the ground conditions for the new stand at the Memorial stadium appears not completed according to the report, a situation which should, in my opinion, be rectified before the stand is occupied by any significant number of people. Regards How long has the breach been occurring? Since May this year, though no Geological report appeared on the planning portal until the new planning application appeared in October. What a load of bull, the stand has been constructed using piling so that the foundations are built on solid ground(usually bedrock) this alleviates any concerns regarding the structure of soil, subsoil immediatly below the stand. Imagine this report will be filed in the bin. TG informs me building control have been making regular visits to the site. The locals better start worrying whether their properties are going to fall into sink holes.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 3, 2023 15:42:55 GMT
The local activitist know they have days not weeks to try to find one technically which will defer delay or interfere with the process. If you throw 500 stones hopefully one sticks ( 1st and 2nd objections in total).
I never underestimate them and try to concentrate on targeting the contacts and democratic channels I have to SUPPORT. Quite simply we play them at their own game and use our voice to make the councillors aware Bristol is for everyone and not just an articulate educated well informed minority. A voice should be given to Mr & Mrs average too!.
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Nov 3, 2023 16:13:19 GMT
IF I WAS TO OBJECT TO THE PLANNED SOUTH STAND
(Obviously, I do not and will not. But.. IF)
THIS MIGHT BE MY COMMENT
This application reveals a terrifyingly bland, aesthetically neutral plan, and potential squandering of an astonishing opportunity to enhance Horfield and Bristol in a compatible uplifting way.
I support a proposal to create a multi-use arena in a Colosseum styled classical-architectural venue. This befits the region of Horfield and the city of Bristol.
Anything less or as bland as this application should go out of town and as much as possible, out of sight.
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Post by The Equaliser on Nov 3, 2023 17:34:30 GMT
IF I WAS TO OBJECT TO THE PLANNED SOUTH STAND (Obviously, I do not and will not. But.. IF) THIS MIGHT BE MY COMMENT This application reveals a terrifyingly bland, aesthetically neutral plan, and potential squandering of an astonishing opportunity to enhance Horfield and Bristol in a compatible uplifting way. I support a proposal to create a multi-use arena in a Colosseum styled classical-architectural venue. This befits the region of Horfield and the city of Bristol. Anything less or as bland as this application should go out of town and as much as possible, out of sight. Yes with a new huge East Stand with colonnades the full length on the outer walling with a Remembrance Museum inside to remember all Bristol people who gave their lives in World conflicts. 👍🏾
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 3, 2023 18:47:39 GMT
I see that one objector included a photograph of the view they have of the stand but you can clearly see that they had to go into their loft conversion to take it,from Rudthorpe Road I think.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 3, 2023 19:01:07 GMT
I see that one objector included a photograph of the view they have of the stand but you can clearly see that they had to go into their loft conversion to take it,from Rudthorpe Road I think. It's the first stand built for nearly 30 years. Imagine if the objector lived near the 150 plus grounds from premiership to regional national leauge. The sad fact is they will only be happy if there absolutely NO ammendments to ground whatsoever!.
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