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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 3, 2023 21:26:52 GMT
I see that one objector included a photograph of the view they have of the stand but you can clearly see that they had to go into their loft conversion to take it,from Rudthorpe Road I think. I enjoy going up into my loft conversion every day after work and seeing what progress has been made on the new stand.
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 3, 2023 23:12:54 GMT
By the by, I was checking on the Bristol City Council list of Assets of Community Value. Surprisingly the Mem does not appear on the list? I'll investigate more but you can notice from the list that each ACV has a 4 year duration, after which I presume an application needs to be made to continue the ACV status. Did the Bishopston Society fail to re-register? You'll note Ashton Gate Stadium is also an ACV. www.bristol.gov.uk/files/documents/2432-220406-asset-of-community-value-register
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 4, 2023 9:14:30 GMT
By the by, I was checking on the Bristol City Council list of Assets of Community Value. Surprisingly the Mem does not appear on the list? I'll investigate more but you can notice from the list that each ACV has a 4 year duration, after which I presume an application needs to be made to continue the ACV status. Did the Bishopston Society fail to re-register? You'll note Ashton Gate Stadium is also an ACV. www.bristol.gov.uk/files/documents/2432-220406-asset-of-community-value-registerIt was probably all smoke and mirrors at the time to delay a sale to any other developer after the Sainsbury debacle. As I mentioned in an earlier post, why have the Bishopston society and FOMG not been visibly supporting the planning application? Do FOMG still exist or have those people now moved out of the area?
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Post by supergas on Nov 4, 2023 10:30:56 GMT
It was probably all smoke and mirrors at the time to delay a sale to any other developer after the Sainsbury debacle. As I mentioned in an earlier post, why have the Bishopston society and FOMG not been visibly supporting the planning application?Do FOMG still exist or have those people now moved out of the area? ...or did they just support the Mem remaining as a sporting venue (and suggest they would support improvements) when it suited them, and are now aware any public opposition using those same names/groups would look hypocritical...? So they've probably already objected personally and I'm sure we'll see a new group with a new name opposing developments at the ground, but there will be suspiciously familiar names and faces pulling the strings... Speaking of objections, reading through the most recent ones it seems there is a coordinated pushback over biodiversity and the report submitted about it in the planning application. I think we can safely assume this will be their focus during the committee meeting and whilst at face-value it seems laughable, I don't care enough/don't know enough to judge if they have a point. As far as I can see we will lose 0.07 hectares of grass because of the pitch move - but we will better maintain the area behind the SW corner (between the stands and the gardens) meaning more wildlife will grow/live there. That gives us an overall biodiversity net gain of 10.58% - which is good as the target for developments like this isI believe 10%...
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 4, 2023 10:36:02 GMT
It was probably all smoke and mirrors at the time to delay a sale to any other developer after the Sainsbury debacle. As I mentioned in an earlier post, why have the Bishopston society and FOMG not been visibly supporting the planning application?Do FOMG still exist or have those people now moved out of the area? ...or did they just support the Mem remaining as a sporting venue (and suggest they would support improvements) when it suited them, and are now aware any public opposition using those same names/groups would look hypocritical...? So they've probably already objected personally and I'm sure we'll see a new group with a new name opposing developments at the ground, but there will be suspiciously familiar names and faces pulling the strings... Speaking of objections, reading through the most recent ones it seems there is a coordinated pushback over biodiversity and the report submitted about it in the planning application. I think we can safely assume this will be their focus during the committee meeting and whilst at face-value it seems laughable, I don't care enough/don't know enough to judge if they have a point - as far as I can see we will lose 0.07 hectares of grass because of the pitch move, but we will better maintain the area behind the SW corner (between the stands and the gardens) meaning more wildlife will grow/live there, meaning we have an overall biodiversity net gain of 10.58% - which is good as the target for developments like this are I believe to be 10%... This is why I keep reminding people this is the 4th protest group since we arrived at the Memorial stadium. I made a statement which I still hold that no football club have experienced the prejudice wè have . I simply asked anyone on this forum if they can name one just one protest group in the entire south / west from Bournemouth to Yeovil who have developed / revamped in the last 10 years or more . I'm still waiting !.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 4, 2023 10:38:58 GMT
By the by, I was checking on the Bristol City Council list of Assets of Community Value. Surprisingly the Mem does not appear on the list? I'll investigate more but you can notice from the list that each ACV has a 4 year duration, after which I presume an application needs to be made to continue the ACV status. Did the Bishopston Society fail to re-register? You'll note Ashton Gate Stadium is also an ACV. www.bristol.gov.uk/files/documents/2432-220406-asset-of-community-value-register It matters little anyway, all it really means is the local community have the opertunity to buy it if Rovers agree a sale price with a developer.
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 4, 2023 10:40:27 GMT
Any new photos of the latest progress?
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 4, 2023 11:05:49 GMT
...or did they just support the Mem remaining as a sporting venue (and suggest they would support improvements) when it suited them, and are now aware any public opposition using those same names/groups would look hypocritical...? So they've probably already objected personally and I'm sure we'll see a new group with a new name opposing developments at the ground, but there will be suspiciously familiar names and faces pulling the strings... Speaking of objections, reading through the most recent ones it seems there is a coordinated pushback over biodiversity and the report submitted about it in the planning application. I think we can safely assume this will be their focus during the committee meeting and whilst at face-value it seems laughable, I don't care enough/don't know enough to judge if they have a point - as far as I can see we will lose 0.07 hectares of grass because of the pitch move, but we will better maintain the area behind the SW corner (between the stands and the gardens) meaning more wildlife will grow/live there, meaning we have an overall biodiversity net gain of 10.58% - which is good as the target for developments like this are I believe to be 10%... This is why I keep reminding people this is the 4th protest group since we arrived at the Memorial stadium. I made a statement which I still hold that no football club have experienced the prejudice wè have . I simply asked anyone on this forum if they can name one just one protest group in the entire south / west from Bournemouth to Yeovil who have developed / revamped in the last 10 years or more . I'm still waiting !. Only have to look at our friends south of the river for one: www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-17582992
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 4, 2023 11:10:27 GMT
By the by, I was checking on the Bristol City Council list of Assets of Community Value. Surprisingly the Mem does not appear on the list? I'll investigate more but you can notice from the list that each ACV has a 4 year duration, after which I presume an application needs to be made to continue the ACV status. Did the Bishopston Society fail to re-register? You'll note Ashton Gate Stadium is also an ACV. www.bristol.gov.uk/files/documents/2432-220406-asset-of-community-value-register It matters little anyway, all it really means is the local community have the opertunity to buy it if Rovers agree a sale price with a developer. I agree that ACV is a pretty weak tool in that respect. But I think we can all deduce that the concerted campaign to retain the Mem as a sporting venue was simply a device to hinder the Sainsbury's development and not really based in any meaningful community desire. The decision not to seek renewal speaks volumes.
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Post by percy on Nov 4, 2023 11:39:12 GMT
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Post by supergas on Nov 4, 2023 11:42:30 GMT
...or did they just support the Mem remaining as a sporting venue (and suggest they would support improvements) when it suited them, and are now aware any public opposition using those same names/groups would look hypocritical...? So they've probably already objected personally and I'm sure we'll see a new group with a new name opposing developments at the ground, but there will be suspiciously familiar names and faces pulling the strings... Speaking of objections, reading through the most recent ones it seems there is a coordinated pushback over biodiversity and the report submitted about it in the planning application. I think we can safely assume this will be their focus during the committee meeting and whilst at face-value it seems laughable, I don't care enough/don't know enough to judge if they have a point - as far as I can see we will lose 0.07 hectares of grass because of the pitch move, but we will better maintain the area behind the SW corner (between the stands and the gardens) meaning more wildlife will grow/live there, meaning we have an overall biodiversity net gain of 10.58% - which is good as the target for developments like this are I believe to be 10%... This is why I keep reminding people this is the 4th protest group since we arrived at the Memorial stadium. I made a statement which I still hold that no football club have experienced the prejudice wè have . I simply asked anyone on this forum if they can name one just one protest group in the entire south / west from Bournemouth to Yeovil who have developed / revamped in the last 10 years or more . I'm still waiting !. Trouble is we can't stop people protesting - despite what people like to claim in the off-topic part of the forum the UK is still a free country and sensible protest is still legal. What we *can* do is pick apart their claims, and that's actually easier to do when they are put forward by an organised group - one source of information and objections from 'their' side - makes it much easier to prepare for, to investigate, to pick apart and to rebut. High-profile political names from previous groups (some of whom were predicted to go on to much higher political office) have either chosen to leave or were voted out from their positions - not directly because of their opposition to perfectly sensible developments, but it must have been at least a factor....
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 4, 2023 11:48:36 GMT
I imagine the seats will be the last part of the jigsaw. can't tell from that it they've finished the cladding but assume they will have to sort the concourse area next.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 4, 2023 13:01:10 GMT
This is why I keep reminding people this is the 4th protest group since we arrived at the Memorial stadium. I made a statement which I still hold that no football club have experienced the prejudice wè have . I simply asked anyone on this forum if they can name one just one protest group in the entire south / west from Bournemouth to Yeovil who have developed / revamped in the last 10 years or more . I'm still waiting !. Only have to look at our friends south of the river for one: www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-17582992For sure but that was to build an entire football stadium in an established community. My question was revamped / modernised excisting. No one can provide any evidence a football club have had experience of 'groups' 'protesting'about a stand. I'm still waiting ?.
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Post by buktaboy on Nov 4, 2023 14:04:54 GMT
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Post by ebgas on Nov 4, 2023 14:10:33 GMT
Is it just me who thinks it is progressing very slowly? Very little progress made in the last week. How they ever thought they would complete it all over summer is beyond me.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 4, 2023 14:53:21 GMT
Is it just me who thinks it is progressing very slowly? Very little progress made in the last week. How they ever thought they would complete it all over summer is beyond me. No you’re not the only person to think that….. it’s glacial!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 4, 2023 17:43:37 GMT
Is it just me who thinks it is progressing very slowly? Very little progress made in the last week. How they ever thought they would complete it all over summer is beyond me. I though with the stand being out of use for a fortnight plus they would have pushed on and started putting the seats in the stands, I can't see it being ready for this month if they've only fixed a couple of panels on the back of the stand since the last home game.
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Post by supergas on Nov 5, 2023 8:23:27 GMT
Is it just me who thinks it is progressing very slowly? Very little progress made in the last week. How they ever thought they would complete it all over summer is beyond me. They definitely could be going faster which suggests they're now taking their time to save costs because of all the planning permission delays. If it had all gone to the original schedule there would probably have been three times the workforce on-site six days a week and wherever possible jobs that are now being done one after another would have been being done simultaneously. Still don't think it would have been done in the original timeframe but they probably would have only missed the first home game...
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 5, 2023 8:51:44 GMT
Roof looks a lot further on but the cladding at the back looks unchanged.
Would be interesting to see what the south west corner looks like.
Important to remember that sometimes the most complex parts are those that don’t show much visible progress. For instance they may be running what will be concealed plumbing and electrics before the rest of the structure goes in, or they might need to be adding extra supports before seats go in.
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Post by bravosierraseven on Nov 5, 2023 9:01:37 GMT
Roof looks a lot further on but the cladding at the back looks unchanged. Would be interesting to see what the south west corner looks like. Important to remember that sometimes the most complex parts are those that don’t show much visible progress. For instance they may be running what will be concealed plumbing and electrics before the rest of the structure goes in, or they might need to be adding extra supports before seats go in. Also, although the weather wasn't as bad as forecast in this part of the country, maybe they didn't bother to turn up for a couple of days as it may not have been deemed not safe to work.
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