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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 17, 2023 9:21:48 GMT
Looking at the picture that corner section will most probably be redone when the redo the South Stand as I've said before it just looks odd The corner and the whole south-west section looks to have been designed to provide more seats inside a lower structure than the temporary stands - probably to make sure there were no planning issues with height/shadows. Whilst it's higher at the front it's much lower as it gets nearer the houses meaning the sunlight report raised no issues for those houses on the West side of the ground. The sun rises and sets on the other side of the houses so a stand 3 times the height or more would not have had an impact on the light of the houses to the west
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 17, 2023 9:43:31 GMT
Now the club dont have to pretend they arent already building the stand, hopefully we can get some official progress reports and photos from the club. Rather than the dodgy ones posted on FB and X! Latest dodgy one from Facebook, starting to look decent. View AttachmentNot sure i'm keen on that shade of blue
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Post by supergas on Nov 17, 2023 9:49:52 GMT
The corner and the whole south-west section looks to have been designed to provide more seats inside a lower structure than the temporary stands - probably to make sure there were no planning issues with height/shadows. Whilst it's higher at the front it's much lower as it gets nearer the houses meaning the sunlight report raised no issues for those houses on the West side of the ground. The sun rises and sets on the other side of the houses so a stand 3 times the height or more would not have had an impact on the light of the houses to the west ...the sun rises in the east and sets in the west last time I checked - so structures on the West of our ground cast a shadow towards houses/gardens on Strathmore Road...
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Post by buktaboy on Nov 17, 2023 10:00:57 GMT
Looking at the picture that corner section will most probably be redone when the redo the South Stand as I've said before it just looks odd The corner and the whole south-west section looks to have been designed to provide more seats inside a lower structure than the temporary stands - probably to make sure there were no planning issues with height/shadows. Whilst it's higher at the front it's much lower as it gets nearer the houses meaning the sunlight report raised no issues for those houses on the West side of the ground. That photos really illustrates why the SW corner section is lower than the South section. If the SW corner was the same height/rake, the view from the seats at the back would be obstructed by the West stand holiday chalets, sorry executive boxes.
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Post by Jomo on Nov 17, 2023 10:10:47 GMT
Looking pretty good! Although just wondering about the seats in the corner, these look like they will have pretty obstructed views due to the number of pillars in that area?
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Post by simon1883 on Nov 17, 2023 10:44:58 GMT
my only slight worry is the flood lights are slight obscured by the new stand. clear band of dark / light. not sure it that effects the ability to play. there would defo be a max ration of minimum LUX tom maximum LUX.
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Post by singupgas on Nov 17, 2023 10:45:33 GMT
Looking pretty good! Although just wondering about the seats in the corner, these look like they will have pretty obstructed views due to the number of pillars in that area? Don't start talking about obstructed views. We are getting what we are getting. Expect more of the same and nothing else. It's all we can afford.
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Post by supergas on Nov 17, 2023 10:51:11 GMT
my only slight worry is the flood lights are slight obscured by the new stand. clear band of dark / light. not sure it that effects the ability to play. there would defo be a max ration of minimum LUX tom maximum LUX. It will be fixed at some point, but as it's not been mentioned in referee's reports that suggests it's not as bad at pitch level as it looks from the stands....
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Post by gasbath on Nov 17, 2023 11:02:38 GMT
There has been flood lights mounted on the front edge of the new stand taking away the shadow from the floodlights.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 17, 2023 11:05:14 GMT
Looking pretty good! Although just wondering about the seats in the corner, these look like they will have pretty obstructed views due to the number of pillars in that area? I'll have one, it could be a blessing
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2023 11:52:34 GMT
There has been flood lights mounted on the front edge of the new stand taking away the shadow from the floodlights. Really? Nice one.
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2023 11:54:29 GMT
Looking pretty good! Although just wondering about the seats in the corner, these look like they will have pretty obstructed views due to the number of pillars in that area? Don't start talking about obstructed views. We are getting what we are getting. Expect more of the same and nothing else. It's all we can afford. You really do have it in for the Owners and what they're doing. I don't get it. I reckon it's all looking good, and from what I understand, there's more to come.
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Post by supergas on Nov 17, 2023 12:05:49 GMT
Looking pretty good! Although just wondering about the seats in the corner, these look like they will have pretty obstructed views due to the number of pillars in that area? Don't start talking about obstructed views. We are getting what we are getting. Expect more of the same and nothing else. It's all we can afford. ...er...supports for the roof on the South Stand are basic physics vs RIO. We could have built a cantilevered roof - but given the rear of the stand is very close to the site boundary that would mean losing four or more rows of seats....which is just over one sixth of the capacity of the stand. So even if money was no issue, why for this redevelopment would we sacrifice 500+ seats to remove some very small pillars...?
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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 17, 2023 12:23:49 GMT
The sun rises and sets on the other side of the houses so a stand 3 times the height or more would not have had an impact on the light of the houses to the west ...the sun rises in the east and sets in the west last time I checked - so structures on the West of our ground cast a shadow towards houses/gardens on Strathmore Road... It does rise in the East and set in the west but for the last 27 years I have sat in the East stand the sun has always been behind the houses behind the West Stand so not affected by the stand (maybe early mornings but I doubt that has much of an impact)
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Post by supergas on Nov 17, 2023 12:26:06 GMT
...the sun rises in the east and sets in the west last time I checked - so structures on the West of our ground cast a shadow towards houses/gardens on Strathmore Road... It does rise in the East and set in the west but for the last 27 years I have sat in the East stand the sun has always been behind the houses behind the West Stand so not affected by the stand (maybe early mornings but I doubt that has much of an impact) ...mornings make up nearly half the time the sun is in the sky.... [edit for clarity] we are taking about the impact on the nearby houses at all times of day, not during afternoon/evening matches....
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Post by Colyton Gas on Nov 17, 2023 12:37:41 GMT
Everton deducted points today so increases their relegation prospects.If they go down and we go up ,do hope their new stadium will be ready as I don't want my team playing in any old dump what with our posh new stand an' all.
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Post by huntyhunt on Nov 17, 2023 12:39:11 GMT
As you would know the sun is lower in the sky at this time of the year
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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 17, 2023 12:48:37 GMT
It does rise in the East and set in the west but for the last 27 years I have sat in the East stand the sun has always been behind the houses behind the West Stand so not affected by the stand (maybe early mornings but I doubt that has much of an impact) ...mornings make up nearly half the time the sun is in the sky.... [edit for clarity] we are taking about the impact on the nearby houses at all times of day, not during afternoon/evening matches.... Your original post is talking about casting shadows, over their houses. All I am saying is having observed for 27 years from mid day to sunset I don't believe the reason for the small structure of the SW stand has anything to do with casting shadows because even during the mornings I don't believe it does (cast a shadow over their houses). Never at any time of day is the sun behind the East stand (from a perspective of being in the ground) which is where it would need to be to cast shadows on the houses behind the West stand. It's fine if you don't agree.
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2023 13:28:14 GMT
...mornings make up nearly half the time the sun is in the sky.... [edit for clarity] we are taking about the impact on the nearby houses at all times of day, not during afternoon/evening matches.... Your original post is talking about casting shadows, over their houses. All I am saying is having observed for 27 years from mid day to sunset I don't believe the reason for the small structure of the SW stand has anything to do with casting shadows because even during the mornings I don't believe it does (cast a shadow over their houses). Never at any time of day is the sun behind the East stand (from a perspective of being in the ground) which is where it would need to be to cast shadows on the houses behind the West stand. It's fine if you don't agree. 27 years observing sunsets? Job or just a weird hobby?
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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 17, 2023 13:37:07 GMT
Your original post is talking about casting shadows, over their houses. All I am saying is having observed for 27 years from mid day to sunset I don't believe the reason for the small structure of the SW stand has anything to do with casting shadows because even during the mornings I don't believe it does (cast a shadow over their houses). Never at any time of day is the sun behind the East stand (from a perspective of being in the ground) which is where it would need to be to cast shadows on the houses behind the West stand. It's fine if you don't agree. 27 years observing sunsets? Job or just a weird hobby? Weird hobby
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