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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 22, 2023 20:14:29 GMT
The south stand juts out infront of the away end , so spectators in the corner of the away terrace have to look through the south stand to see the goal mouth area, that is why there is no end on that side of the south stand. If seats were put in the corner of the stand which is currently empty and the supporters stood up from their seats which they do , the view of supporters on the away end would be blocked , so the club have to leave that corner clear of seats/fans. I'm not too sure if it's to do with restricted views from away terrace but it appears on plans there is no end on the left side of stand . Maybe the outer side could be used for a scoreboard screening ?. This raises the question why there is a large gap on the inside top left of stand ?. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 22, 2023 20:27:43 GMT
The south stand juts out infront of the away end , so spectators in the corner of the away terrace have to look through the south stand to see the goal mouth area, that is why there is no end on that side of the south stand. If seats were put in the corner of the stand which is currently empty and the supporters stood up from their seats which they do , the view of supporters on the away end would be blocked , so the club have to leave that corner clear of seats/fans. I'm not too sure if it's to do with restricted views from away terrace but it appears on plans there is no end on the left side of stand . Maybe the outer side could be used for a scoreboard screening ?. This raises the question why there is a large gap on the inside top left of stand ?. Surely the lower back section needs to remain as access to the hospitality area under the stand and for access to all the seating areas on that side. It is open at the West side for the same reasons. I think you will find the east side has been left open to allow access for materials etc for the whole installation. Apart from the lower back pedestrian entrance I assume the rest of the cladding will be fitted when the build is complete. |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 22, 2023 20:42:59 GMT
You only need words spelt in seats uf you have a generic boring ground. Any stadium with unique looks doesn't need such stuff.
The seating writing at ashton gate looks embarrassing.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 22, 2023 20:45:55 GMT
I'm not too sure if it's to do with restricted views from away terrace but it appears on plans there is no end on the left side of stand . Maybe the outer side could be used for a scoreboard screening ?. This raises the question why there is a large gap on the inside top left of stand ?. Surely the lower back section needs to remain as access to the hospitality area under the stand and for access to all the seating areas on that side. It is open at the West side for the same reasons. I think you will find the east side has been left open to allow access for materials etc for the whole installation. Apart from the lower back pedestrian entrance I assume the rest of the cladding will be fitted when the build is complete. What I do know it appears as an open space on the original plans at top left side. What I don't know if it's the area for the scoreboard or if the scoreboard is fitted outside the stand in the corner flag section or not at all ?. It seems a big gap to leave open for nothing but access to other things ?. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 22, 2023 21:03:47 GMT
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 22, 2023 21:13:36 GMT
This has always been the case, nothing new here. From memory four toilet blocks and several food outlets. Also this also shows the original artist drawings with all areas of the stand open and no cladding. The club announced in May and started selling ST’s, with an option to swop ST’s from other areas with a cash increase. As I said earlier emailed TG if this was still the case and he confirmed it was and will be announced in due course. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2023 21:27:31 GMT
The big gap looks even more noticeable on the original drawings! |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 22, 2023 21:28:08 GMT
This has always been the case, nothing new here. From memory four toilet blocks and several food outlets. Also this also shows the original artist drawings with all areas of the stand open and no cladding. The club announced in May and started selling ST’s, with an option to swop ST’s from other areas with a cash increase. As I said earlier emailed TG if this was still the case and he confirmed it was and will be announced in due course. Sorry I thought you said in your previous comment there will be cladding?. So to confirm. Will the top left section be left open as it now ?. Will the side bit be cladded or left open ?. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 22, 2023 21:34:13 GMT
This has always been the case, nothing new here. From memory four toilet blocks and several food outlets. Also this also shows the original artist drawings with all areas of the stand open and no cladding. The club announced in May and started selling ST’s, with an option to swop ST’s from other areas with a cash increase. As I said earlier emailed TG if this was still the case and he confirmed it was and will be announced in due course. Sorry I thought you said in your previous comment there will be cladding?. So to confirm. Will the top left section be left open as it now ?. Will the side bit be cladded or left open ?. I think you will find it will all be clad apart from the entrances to the concourse at the lower back section on either side. |
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Post by poorblue on Nov 22, 2023 21:50:37 GMT
This has always been the case, nothing new here. From memory four toilet blocks and several food outlets. Also this also shows the original artist drawings with all areas of the stand open and no cladding. The club announced in May and started selling ST’s, with an option to swop ST’s from other areas with a cash increase. As I said earlier emailed TG if this was still the case and he confirmed it was and will be announced in due course. I emailed and was told no!!! |
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Post by aghast on Nov 23, 2023 0:01:27 GMT
I'm sure it was said on radio Bristol in an interview with Wael that a scoreboard / screen was going in. It would be an odd place to put the scoreboard, inside a stand? I'm fairly certain it's not shown on the plans submitted to BCC. We don't need plans. We just build first and worry about it when the time comes. It's worked fine so far. Agree though a scoreboard inside a stand is a bit odd. Not very visible to the rest of the stadium but as dazzling as the surface of the sun if you're in the South Stand right next to all those pixels. |
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Nov 23, 2023 0:48:37 GMT
Liking the way this is coming together. Happy with the blue seats. I really wonder why they left that gap in the top left section, I assume for the scoreboard but that seems like a waste of space to me. We will find out soon enough. Something we won't know after it's completed though, is why they have left that south west side smaller. It appears there would be enough space behind to have it be the same height as the rest of the south side, it would also closer match the height of the west stand. So why did they make it this odd, shorter height?? I can't imagine it being the roof getting in the way of people in the directors boxes on the west as some have mentioned, if anything the roof being higher would mean it is less intrusive of the view for people in that west stand. I hope they come out and explain. |
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Post by supergas on Nov 23, 2023 5:32:28 GMT
... can't pile deeper due to the old Alton Road steps... Strange comment. Piles can go as deep as required! If you google earth the area at the top of Alton Rd you will see the steps encroach slightly into the rear alignment of the new stand. If you then see the concrete steps of the East Terrace, the location of the turnstiles then the area of missing seats is needed to provide a safe height and floor area entry/exit to the new stand. It really annoys me that I can't find where I read it but it wasn't speculation on a forum or social media so it must have been somewhere in the planning documents (and I'm not going through all that again...) Yes piles can go as deep as required. But in that area because the ground is slightly lower and it is the only part of the South Stand site that has been 'disturbed' (since whenever the rest of the site was levelled off to build the steps in the first place), you would have to pile deeper to carry the weight, and piling deeper costs more and may have an effect on the local properties. I'm happy to admit I can't find the proof but I'm sure I read that part of the stand was designed that way because of the steps/ground in that area, and could/would be fixed in future developments... |
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Post by supergas on Nov 23, 2023 5:33:52 GMT
Liking the way this is coming together. Happy with the blue seats. I really wonder why they left that gap in the top left section, I assume for the scoreboard but that seems like a waste of space to me. We will find out soon enough. Something we won't know after it's completed though, is why they have left that south west side smaller. It appears there would be enough space behind to have it be the same height as the rest of the south side, it would also closer match the height of the west stand. So why did they make it this odd, shorter height?? I can't imagine it being the roof getting in the way of people in the directors boxes on the west as some have mentioned, if anything the roof being higher would mean it is less intrusive of the view for people in that west stand. I hope they come out and explain. From memory isn't the area behind the SW stand also used for ground-staff equipment and the away team coach? It might be as simple as they need that space for those two reasons.... |
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Post by gasify on Nov 23, 2023 5:34:24 GMT
The south stand juts out infront of the away end , so spectators in the corner of the away terrace have to look through the south stand to see the goal mouth area, that is why there is no end on that side of the south stand. If seats were put in the corner of the stand which is currently empty and the supporters stood up from their seats which they do , the view of supporters on the away end would be blocked , so the club have to leave that corner clear of seats/fans. I'm not too sure if it's to do with restricted views from away terrace but it appears on plans there is no end on the left side of stand . Maybe the outer side could be used for a scoreboard screening ?. This raises the question why there is a large gap on the inside top left of stand ?. I have it on good authority that it is a health and safety measure. When the stand is full, there will be a build up of methane. This in itself wouldn't be an issue. However due to the beer and burger origins, it has been decided to have an area to exhaust that methane. |
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Nov 23, 2023 7:10:57 GMT
As someone else has said, the level of the seats and the gap on the left hand side is exactly the same as that on the right - the difference is that on the right there is the South West stand so it’s not noticeable. The reason it is like this is so that if they want to, the can replicate the South West stand on that side and create the South East Stand… possibly a further development to increase seating and maybe a new seated area for away fans when they eventually remove the away terrace?
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Post by supergas on Nov 23, 2023 7:55:20 GMT
As someone else has said, the level of the seats and the gap on the left hand side is exactly the same as that on the right - the difference is that on the right there is the South West stand so it’s not noticeable. The reason it is like this is so that if they want to, the can replicate the South West stand on that side and create the South East Stand… possibly a further development to increase seating and maybe a new seated area for away fans when they eventually remove the away terrace? ...but then the pitch would be far too narrow surely...? |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 23, 2023 8:25:20 GMT
Liking the way this is coming together. Happy with the blue seats. I really wonder why they left that gap in the top left section, I assume for the scoreboard but that seems like a waste of space to me. We will find out soon enough. Something we won't know after it's completed though, is why they have left that south west side smaller. It appears there would be enough space behind to have it be the same height as the rest of the south side, it would also closer match the height of the west stand. So why did they make it this odd, shorter height?? I can't imagine it being the roof getting in the way of people in the directors boxes on the west as some have mentioned, if anything the roof being higher would mean it is less intrusive of the view for people in that west stand. I hope they come out and explain. No point in having it any higher, as the seating cannot go back any farther. If it did the west stand would block the views of those in the new south west section. It is quite apparent this is the case when viewed from the gangway to the west terrace. |
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 23, 2023 8:56:20 GMT
As someone else has said, the level of the seats and the gap on the left hand side is exactly the same as that on the right - the difference is that on the right there is the South West stand so it’s not noticeable. The reason it is like this is so that if they want to, the can replicate the South West stand on that side and create the South East Stand… possibly a further development to increase seating and maybe a new seated area for away fans when they eventually remove the away terrace? Don't they need a gap there for access when they are relaying the pitch, machinery, vehicles, tractors etc? |
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Post by simon1883 on Nov 23, 2023 8:59:40 GMT
Was only told on Saturday that there will be no ST for the South Stand.... |
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