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Post by heartofgas on Nov 23, 2023 9:01:59 GMT
Was only told on Saturday that there will be no ST for the South Stand.... Surely that can't be right. Bonkers if so. |
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Post by oldie on Nov 23, 2023 9:22:48 GMT
Re season tickets, this balance of season only I would imagine
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Post by ifollowgas on Nov 23, 2023 9:27:44 GMT
Liking the way this is coming together. Happy with the blue seats. I really wonder why they left that gap in the top left section, I assume for the scoreboard but that seems like a waste of space to me. We will find out soon enough. Something we won't know after it's completed though, is why they have left that south west side smaller. It appears there would be enough space behind to have it be the same height as the rest of the south side, it would also closer match the height of the west stand. So why did they make it this odd, shorter height?? I can't imagine it being the roof getting in the way of people in the directors boxes on the west as some have mentioned, if anything the roof being higher would mean it is less intrusive of the view for people in that west stand. I hope they come out and explain. No point in having it any higher, as the seating cannot go back any farther. If it did the west stand would block the views of those in the new south west section. It is quite apparent this is the case when viewed from the gangway to the west terrace. It's unfortunate that the west stand wasn't (couldn't?) be extended to the full length of the pitch, thus providing additional boxes. The 'cricket stand' looks a bit odd but also accommodates changing rooms and a good camera position. It would look less odd if full length and would get rid of the shanty looking south-west stand and family terrace shed. It's unlikely that a taller/deeper stand will be allowed on that side anyway, so completely replacing it is probably well down the line. |
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Post by blueridge on Nov 23, 2023 9:29:19 GMT
Was only told on Saturday that there will be no ST for the South Stand.... Surely that can't be right. Bonkers if so. Some ‘big’ homes coming up - Derby, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford - can see the reasons why the club don’t want to commit to season tickets this season if true. |
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Post by Marshy on Nov 23, 2023 9:42:10 GMT
Surely that can't be right. Bonkers if so. Some ‘big’ homes coming up - Derby, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford - can see the reasons why the club don’t want to commit to season tickets this season if true. Yes it makes sense to me, Exeter will bring a decent amount too. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 23, 2023 9:57:57 GMT
Re season tickets, this balance of season only I would imagine Correct, as confirmed by email from TG to me yesterday. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 23, 2023 9:59:41 GMT
Surely that can't be right. Bonkers if so. Some ‘big’ homes coming up - Derby, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford - can see the reasons why the club don’t want to commit to season tickets this season if true. No way the club are going to give 3000 seats and the away terrace 800 or so I now believe to an away club. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 23, 2023 10:00:10 GMT
Surely that can't be right. Bonkers if so. Some ‘big’ homes coming up - Derby, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford - can see the reasons why the club don’t want to commit to season tickets this season if true. It’s not true! |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 23, 2023 10:08:05 GMT
Some ‘big’ homes coming up - Derby, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford - can see the reasons why the club don’t want to commit to season tickets this season if true. No way the club are going to give 3000 seats and the away terrace 800 or so I now believe to an away club. No need to sell terrace tickets to away fans anymore. Increases home terrace capacity for the east stand . Until work starts on the east stand extension (southern end) |
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Post by poorblue on Nov 23, 2023 10:14:57 GMT
Strange comment. Piles can go as deep as required! If you google earth the area at the top of Alton Rd you will see the steps encroach slightly into the rear alignment of the new stand. If you then see the concrete steps of the East Terrace, the location of the turnstiles then the area of missing seats is needed to provide a safe height and floor area entry/exit to the new stand. It really annoys me that I can't find where I read it but it wasn't speculation on a forum or social media so it must have been somewhere in the planning documents (and I'm not going through all that again...) Yes piles can go as deep as required. But in that area because the ground is slightly lower and it is the only part of the South Stand site that has been 'disturbed' (since whenever the rest of the site was levelled off to build the steps in the first place), you would have to pile deeper to carry the weight, and piling deeper costs more and may have an effect on the local properties. I'm happy to admit I can't find the proof but I'm sure I read that part of the stand was designed that way because of the steps/ground in that area, and could/would be fixed in future developments... I'm afraid your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny! The stand as constructed has a straight line at the back with PILES beyond the Alton Rd steps. You are correct the pitch was built on a slope that has been levelled. This is the issue of ground water issuing and causing flooding in front of the family stand as it is cut into the natural water table. Thus the Alton Rd end was filled with the soil from the Thatchers end and hence the steps in this area. The pitch was levelled as far as living memory, possibly from it's dedication over a 100 years ago therefore the ground is fully consolidated. Consensus appears to be that the missing seats in that corner is to install a large advertising screen. The rear wall seems large enough for this to be correct. IMO it being located at the same height in the away fans area is a risk that could have been avoided! The loss of seating/catering revenue v advertising revenue I assume has been taken into account regarding it's position. |
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Post by blueridge on Nov 23, 2023 10:17:02 GMT
Some ‘big’ homes coming up - Derby, Bolton, Portsmouth, Charlton, Oxford - can see the reasons why the club don’t want to commit to season tickets this season if true. No way the club are going to give 3000 seats and the away terrace 800 or so I now believe to an away club. Don’t think I said the club would be giving up 3000 seats - but I’m sure they’ll want the flexibility to accommodate larger away followings particularly for the clubs mentioned. |
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Post by percy on Nov 23, 2023 10:17:05 GMT
I would imagine the SW, Corner and maybe first block would be ST holders, next season if not this.
The rest left more flexible for away fans to be increased or decreased
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 23, 2023 10:23:03 GMT
It would be an odd place to put the scoreboard, inside a stand? I'm fairly certain it's not shown on the plans submitted to BCC. So what do u think the open space is for ? I've been told there may be a big screen there, but it's not decided yet and seats could be put there in stead very easily if required. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 23, 2023 10:27:28 GMT
As someone else has said, the level of the seats and the gap on the left hand side is exactly the same as that on the right - the difference is that on the right there is the South West stand so it’s not noticeable. The reason it is like this is so that if they want to, the can replicate the South West stand on that side and create the South East Stand… possibly a further development to increase seating and maybe a new seated area for away fans when they eventually remove the away terrace? Sorry I don't understand. The gaps on the right is much lower down and probably being used for access points to get in and out the ground . I'm not clear why there is a huge gap in the upper left side. So far there as been many theories from moving equipment in and out to underground facilities to scoreboard. I can understand if the gap was lower down on the left side as access points for H&S . I suppose all will be revealed . |
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Post by playtowin on Nov 23, 2023 10:28:04 GMT
Unless we struggle selling tickets for a game the away allocation will not need to be more than 1200 initially rising to perhaps 1600 once the stadium upgrades have been completed.
10% of capacity.
If we struggle at times selling our own tickets clubs should be offered more. To financially off set lost funds from our own supporters.
So as for selling season tickets i guess we need to make a decision and stick with it so fans dont get messed about.
So in my view 1600 spaces(and segregation area seats)should be put aside for away fans. All other seats should be available for season tickets.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 23, 2023 10:28:51 GMT
So what do u think the open space is for ? I've been told there may be a big screen there, but it's not decided yet and seats could be put there in stead very easily if required. That sounds a bit clearer to me . |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 23, 2023 10:48:52 GMT
Unless we struggle selling tickets for a game the away allocation will not need to be more than 1200 initially rising to perhaps 1600 once the stadium upgrades have been completed. 10% of capacity. If we struggle at times selling our own tickets clubs should be offered more. To financially off set lost funds from our own supporters. So as for selling season tickets i guess we need to make a decision and stick with it so fans dont get messed about. So in my view 1600 spaces(and segregation area seats)should be put aside for away fans. All other seats should be available for season tickets. That would only be an increase of 300 away fans on the big games last season. Ipswich pompey Bolton brought 1300. Until we know the capacity its hard to visualise. Will 12000 plus be allowed in for the Christmas games and beyond or will it be restricted ? |
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Post by heartofgas on Nov 23, 2023 11:54:51 GMT
It seems daft to me if we have built this new stand then our own fans can't buy season tickets in it.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Nov 23, 2023 12:16:21 GMT
It seems daft to me if we have built this new stand then our own fans can't buy season tickets in it. They can - or could until it was delayed. Pretty much the Southwest stand and a small part of the south. Away terrace has gone from 800 to 500 as stand may block view and pitch has moved forward. I assume the club will work out max away allocation for seats and sell future ST tickets based on seats guaranteed for home fans. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Nov 23, 2023 12:45:20 GMT
It seems daft to me if we have built this new stand then our own fans can't buy season tickets in it. They can - or could until it was delayed. Pretty much the Southwest stand and a small part of the south. Away terrace has gone from 800 to 500 as stand may block view and pitch has moved forward. I assume the club will work out max away allocation for seats and sell future ST tickets based on seats guaranteed for home fans. If fans go on ticketing website and click Pompey . The above comments seems pretty accurate as it suggest all south west stand and a part of south stand with a segregated area for home fans only. The rest to the left I assume for away fans P.s You would need to click west terrace as No tickets on sale for south stand yet. |
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