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Post by Quarters on Dec 10, 2023 16:31:02 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand.
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Post by gascloud on Dec 10, 2023 17:12:13 GMT
Once finished we can call it the “Theatre of Beams”🤷♂️
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Post by aghast on Dec 10, 2023 17:21:27 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand. You have a point, but what's the alternative? We don't redevelop the Mem at all? Or tart it up but keep capacity at 12k? Neither will take the club forward. In the absence of a new stadium site/investors/planning permission etc, what else can be done but haul the Mem into the 21st century? It's not the most congested area or stadium I've visited. It's not great, but other urban stadiums have the same issues. I would say the location isn't too bad, being accessible both from the city centre and the motorway/ring road. And the new Ashley Down station Wil help a lot whenever that arrives. It's a case of making the best of a bad job, so we must hope the new owners don't let the long suffering fans down.
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Post by matealotblue on Dec 10, 2023 17:58:53 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand. Did I read somewhere (I think🤔) in the bits that have been released about the redevelopment that the club were looking at various transport solutions (eg Park and Ride) to cater for this scenario? But of course the devil is in the detail and only time will tell if/when/how this comes to fruition.
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Post by curlywurly on Dec 10, 2023 18:21:08 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand. Enact a decent travel plan and it will work.
Not that I've been there recently, but our friends south of the river cope with more with no better street parking arrangement.
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Post by gasonthemount on Dec 10, 2023 20:35:18 GMT
It read like a vague 'oops we still haven't finished it yet but we will, maybe, soon' to me. and of course the most pertinent question very much unanswered, there is about ten to fifteen seats with a decent view, what on earth were you thinking? Do we really have to accept this pile of girders as “progress?” Okay two questions then oh and a third can I have my money back for my five season tickets please, no one would choose seats with restricted of a view. End rant sorry Did you sit in the SW tent last season? There were 6 pillars in front of us. With the new permanent stand there are just the end pillars. Please see photo of view from Row C. I remember having worse views in the Thatchers end with a big crowd! photos.app.goo.gl/vLHR6VS48iBv5PGs9
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Post by Gasshole on Dec 10, 2023 20:50:43 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand. We’ll manage.
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Post by gasify on Dec 10, 2023 21:08:40 GMT
Seconded. My understanding, well reading anyway, is that the FM was still possible but a long time off so with the SAG reductions something had to give. The result was a 'temporary' stand, temporary as in construction time and materials. Now that the FM is off the table, the next step is East and North, which will be around 5-6,000 and 3-4,000 respectively. That'll take us to around 16-17,000 then the owners will take stock. The next step could be the West and then possibly another look at the South. Final capacity could be closer to 20,000 but still a way off yet, if ever. I'd also turn over the majority of the South Stand to away fans once the East and North are completed. Plenty enough for us as a top half L1, bottom half Championship team imo. When did SAG do these reductions?
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 10, 2023 21:15:25 GMT
Seconded. My understanding, well reading anyway, is that the FM was still possible but a long time off so with the SAG reductions something had to give. The result was a 'temporary' stand, temporary as in construction time and materials. Now that the FM is off the table, the next step is East and North, which will be around 5-6,000 and 3-4,000 respectively. That'll take us to around 16-17,000 then the owners will take stock. The next step could be the West and then possibly another look at the South. Final capacity could be closer to 20,000 but still a way off yet, if ever. I'd also turn over the majority of the South Stand to away fans once the East and North are completed. Plenty enough for us as a top half L1, bottom half Championship team imo. When did SAG do these reductions? I'm referring to the reduction in capacity, whether it was SAG directly or whoever.
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Post by joefrankie on Dec 10, 2023 21:20:44 GMT
Don’t forget this stand was a temporary solution until we moved to a new ground. By the time they had decided to remain at the Mem, the frame was already up. It will be replaced……. eventually 😀. The will crack on with the East and North stands first and come back to the South stand, but I’m not kidding myself it will be quick. There’s temporary and there’s Rovers temporary. Do you honestly believe Wael would spend £m's building a temporary stand when he has spent a penny previously? The FM must have been dead well before the new stand was signed off, assuming it was ever a goer or just something used to attract potential investors/keep fans demanding stadium new quiet for a few months/years. Yes, I do. I know I may be a bit naive, but I genuinely think that Wael thought that it was worth spending £1.5 million to increase capacity and revenue for a few years because the Fruit Market was years away, if ever. It was, and is, a very temporary structure which can be taken down very quickly. The clear reason he hadn’t spent very much on the Mem was because we wouldn’t be staying there. I know we’re Bristol Rovers, so not usually up with the times, but no one builds a permanent stand with pillars these days……Not even us.
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Post by joefrankie on Dec 10, 2023 22:05:10 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand. Double yesterday’s crowd would be just under 17,000. That’s about a third of the average Premier League stadium capacity, most of which are in big cities such as Bristol. They seem to cope ok. I’d love it if it took me a bit longer to get home because Rovers were doing well and attracting crowds of 15,000 plus.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 10, 2023 22:05:38 GMT
Do you honestly believe Wael would spend £m's building a temporary stand when he has spent a penny previously? The FM must have been dead well before the new stand was signed off, assuming it was ever a goer or just something used to attract potential investors/keep fans demanding stadium new quiet for a few months/years. Yes, I do. I know I may be a bit naive, but I genuinely think that Wael thought that it was worth spending £1.5 million to increase capacity and revenue for a few years because the Fruit Market was years away, if ever. It was, and is, a very temporary structure which can be taken down very quickly. The clear reason he hadn’t spent very much on the Mem was because we wouldn’t be staying there. I know we’re Bristol Rovers, so not usually up with the times, but no one builds a permanent stand with pillars these days……Not even us. Given it's taken over 6 months to erect is it really going to be quick to take down? To me it looks as permanent as any other stand at the Mem. Unless Wael is totally out of his depth when it comes to the financials then I can't see how he ever thought the FM was viable.
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Post by poorblue on Dec 10, 2023 22:30:20 GMT
Don’t forget this stand was a temporary solution until we moved to a new ground. By the time they had decided to remain at the Mem, the frame was already up. It will be replaced……. eventually 😀. The will crack on with the East and North stands first and come back to the South stand, but I’m not kidding myself it will be quick. There’s temporary and there’s Rovers temporary. Do you honestly believe Wael would spend £m's building a temporary stand when he has spent a penny previously? The FM must have been dead well before the new stand was signed off, assuming it was ever a goer or just something used to attract potential investors/keep fans demanding stadium new quiet for a few months/years. It's my understanding the stand increases the capacity by approx 1000 It's been alleged the stand cost £3m to build. Therefore making the following assumptions 1000 x average ticket £20 x 26 games a season = £520,000 ticket revenue per annum not taking account of any revenue from food and drink revenues. Therefore return on expenditure possible within 5 years. I think the new stand will improve atmosphere and reserve covered seating would greatly increase attendances if only we could score a goal or two
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Post by joefrankie on Dec 10, 2023 22:42:24 GMT
Yes, I do. I know I may be a bit naive, but I genuinely think that Wael thought that it was worth spending £1.5 million to increase capacity and revenue for a few years because the Fruit Market was years away, if ever. It was, and is, a very temporary structure which can be taken down very quickly. The clear reason he hadn’t spent very much on the Mem was because we wouldn’t be staying there. I know we’re Bristol Rovers, so not usually up with the times, but no one builds a permanent stand with pillars these days……Not even us. Given it's taken over 6 months to erect is it really going to be quick to take down? To me it looks as permanent as any other stand at the Mem. Unless Wael is totally out of his depth when it comes to the financials then I can't see how he ever thought the FM was viable. Yes, it will come down much quicker than it went up, and it didn’t take 6 months to erect. Nothing happened till August. It sounds like he did think the FM was viable at some point, but when it was clear we would have no control of the site, made the only sensible decision.
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Post by Quarters on Dec 11, 2023 8:21:25 GMT
Double yesterdays crowd? Good luck exiting the ground and then getting home after. Assuming you can park before hand. Double yesterday’s crowd would be just under 17,000. That’s about a third of the average Premier League stadium capacity, most of which are in big cities such as Bristol. They seem to cope ok. I’d love it if it took me a bit longer to get home because Rovers were doing well and attracting crowds of 15,000 plus. At the moment the only exits, 3, are all onto Filton Avenue. Not sure many other grounds have this issue. Understand that the plan will be to close some roads, not sure which ones were mentioned. Certainly Filton Ave was mentioned. Again not sure how much of it.
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Post by percy on Dec 11, 2023 8:37:09 GMT
(Please can someone tell me why pasting the link no longer gives a Tweet preview? What do I need to do differently?!)
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Post by yattongas on Dec 11, 2023 8:38:43 GMT
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Post by percy on Dec 11, 2023 8:41:03 GMT
Ha, yes, Sure some (Pirate?) seem to still get the preview to show? Maybe you have to pay Elon!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 11, 2023 8:46:13 GMT
Change the x.com to Twitter.com in the link and it works.
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Post by buktaboy on Dec 11, 2023 11:05:49 GMT
I access Twitter on my phone and just click the Share icon under the Tweet and select Copy Link, then paste it in here.
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