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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 18:32:46 GMT
I did pop up yesterday when moving from the sw stand to the new south stand I wondered over to the away terrace to have a close look at the footprint for the new stand. Observations were it didn’t taper away like it looks on aerial photos/plans. It looked just as wide where the scoreboard was as the other end. I did notice a white line on the pitch about 2 meters in so I guess that’s for the pitch move. I did take a pic but can’t seem to upload as says it’s too large. It could look a lot better than the image shown and looks as tall as the west stand. Let’s hope it generates more atmosphere & better gates. I for one think is a good move and looking forward to taking my seat. UTG The footprint and framework could stay at consistent width along the run but the seats could taper. Could the screen be incorporated into it? At the back? |
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Post by gasbath on May 18, 2023 18:49:49 GMT
Only a guess but the end by away terrace is half the height of the main part of the Stand in seats.
So the might incorporate the screen above those seat if they elevated it
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Post by supergas on May 19, 2023 2:42:56 GMT
Somebody recently estimated that the cost of supply and construction could be in the region of £5m. If you look at Edinburgh Rugby's 7,000 seater arena built by the same company the cost were thought to be in excess of £10m so that figure could be fairly accurate. We do know that it has required a secured loan so it won't be a small amount. Once again Wael has backed the club massively financially. arenagroup.com/project/edinburgh-rugby-stadium/ The cost listed on most websites for the Edinburgh Rugby Stadium is £5.7m - but you have to remember they were building everything basically from scratch, so that figure will also include things like the state-of-the-art 3G pitch, all the media facilities including both camera facilities and journalist facilities, all the fan amenities (including corporate facilities), floodlights, turnstiles....and it's not clear but possibly the player/changing facilities as well, groundskeeping facilities, etc etc although those may be shared with Murrayfield. So that was four stands, 7,800 capacity across all four for £5.7m. We can possibly allocate half that cost to things not being built at the Mem, so £2.9m. Less than half the capacity so maybe £1.5m, but the construction at the Mem is also more compact - Edinburgh was four spread-out stands so more steel for the roofing (more roof), more foundations over a much larger area, more access routes to build/pave, etc etc so something around the £1m mark does sound feasible in comparison to your example. |
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Post by gasonthemount on May 19, 2023 19:16:44 GMT
Right what you have all been waiting for, I have been counting the dots!!
So number of seats in what was the old SW stand 338 (compared to about 360 previously).
Seats in the the new corner area 125.
A further 277 seats in the first section of the new South stand are currently available to purchase for S/T’s.
So in total at present 740 seats available for S/T’s.
The remaining 5 sections in the South Stand equate to about 2,200 seats.
A further section will only be released for S/T sales once all the other seats in SW, corner and first section have been sold.
In essence we have nearly 3,000 seats, approximately double what we had before.
If our EFL agreed capacity figure is 10,500, plus the additional 1,500 created by this development, then our capacity will increase to 12,000.
The most important bit is the increased level of seating available for both home and away supporters.
I have done this quite quickly so hopefully all the figures are right.
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Post by oliverhelmet on May 19, 2023 19:24:15 GMT
Right what you have all been waiting for, I have been counting the dots!! So number of seats in what was the old SW stand 338 (compared to about 360 previously). Seats in the the new corner area 125. A further 277 seats in the first section of the new South stand are currently available to purchase for S/T’s. So in total at present 740 seats available for S/T’s. The remaining 5 sections in the South Stand equate to about 2,200 seats. A further section will only be released for S/T sales once all the other seats in SW, corner and first section have been sold. In essence we have nearly 3,000 seats, approximately double what we had before. If our EFL agreed capacity figure is 10,500, plus the additional 1,500 created by this development, then our capacity will increase to 12,000. The most important bit is the increased level of seating available for both home and away supporters. I have done this quite quickly so hopefully all the figures are right. Bristol Post story say capacity will be around 12500.I trust your figures more though mate. |
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Post by gasonthemount on May 19, 2023 19:34:53 GMT
Apologies correction to above, the remaining sections of the South Stand equates to about 2,700 seats, 500 more than what I said above. So total seating about 3,500 and capacity of 12,500.
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Post by percy on May 19, 2023 19:40:18 GMT
Wondered why such a small block on sale (and in the worst place) but I guess if we only sell enough STs for one block we don’t want them spread across 3 and that restricts flexibility
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Post by stuart1974 on May 19, 2023 19:41:59 GMT
Apologies correction to above, the remaining sections of the South Stand equates to about 2,700 seats, 500 more than what I said above. So total seating about 3,500 and capacity of 12,500. If we put the away fans solely into the new stand, could we use the current segregation area on the East terrace and increase the net capacity slightly higher? Do your figures may need to be reduced slightly for segregation in the stand? |
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Post by gasonthemount on May 19, 2023 19:45:53 GMT
Wondered why such a small block on sale (and in the worst place) but I guess if we only sell enough STs for one block we don’t want them spread across 3 and that restricts flexibility 740 seats available at present for S/T, double what we had last season. Early days but I would expect us to sell all these and open another section of about 576 seats for S/T. Would still leave 2,200 seats to be spilt between home and away supporters on a match by match basis. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on May 19, 2023 19:50:18 GMT
Season just finished pretty ordinary really with no real Cup runs to speak of and yet the crowds are holding up.When we get promoted next May we will need yet another stand!!!! Might as well stay put at the Mem then.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 19, 2023 19:51:24 GMT
Apologies correction to above, the remaining sections of the South Stand equates to about 2,700 seats, 500 more than what I said above. So total seating about 3,500 and capacity of 12,500. If we put the away fans solely into the new stand, could we use the current segregation area on the East terrace and increase the net capacity slightly higher? Do your figures may need to be reduced slightly for segregation in the stand? Could we also flip the away terrace depending on the number of away fans i.e. if we play a team like Fleetwood with a small away following on the opening day of the season then just seat them all in the new stand (assuming it's open) and then open up the away terrace including the sterile area to home fans? |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 19, 2023 19:56:59 GMT
Season just pretty ordinary really with no real Cup runs to speak of and yet the crowds are holding up.When we get promoted next May we will need yet another stand!!!! Might as well stay put at the Mem then. If Luton get promoted they apparently have to spend £10m just to bring their ground up to standard but they still intend building their new ground. What i don't get is G1981 always coming out with the line the Mem ins't viable but we're spending £m's on a new stand which will apparently pay for itself in a few years. If we did that with every stand then the whole ground would pay for itself! |
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Post by gasonthemount on May 19, 2023 20:28:00 GMT
Apologies correction to above, the remaining sections of the South Stand equates to about 2,700 seats, 500 more than what I said above. So total seating about 3,500 and capacity of 12,500. If we put the away fans solely into the new stand, could we use the current segregation area on the East terrace and increase the net capacity slightly higher? Do your figures may need to be reduced slightly for segregation in the stand? Either way you would need segregation because home fans will be in the SW and corner area. One of the main reasons for undertaking this project is to significantly increase the number of seats available for home fans. The main sections in the South Stand are 24 seats wide by 24 rows. Hopefully segregation could be limited to 6 seats wide, so you would lose about 150 seats. If it could be achieved with 4 seats then the loss would only be a 100. |
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Post by Quarters on May 19, 2023 21:02:12 GMT
Season just pretty ordinary really with no real Cup runs to speak of and yet the crowds are holding up.When we get promoted next May we will need yet another stand!!!! Might as well stay put at the Mem then. If Luton get promoted they apparently have to spend £10m just to bring their ground up to standard but they still intend building their new ground. What i don't get is G1981 always coming out with the line the Mem ins't viable but we're spending £m's on a new stand which will apparently pay for itself in a few years. If we did that with every stand then the whole ground would pay for itself! Not sure what you are trying to say. Prem rules state why they would have to make improvements. Given they would get £100 mill min in sponsorship small price to pay. |
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Post by gasonthemount on May 20, 2023 8:01:47 GMT
Nearly 400 seats have been sold out of the 740 seats currently available for S/T sales.
What with the increased allocations for both home and away supporters (and enclosed nature of the stands) there is going to be a significant increase in the atmosphere at this end of the ground. Listen out Thatchers!
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Post by mftc on May 20, 2023 9:03:03 GMT
Nearly 400 seats have been sold out of the 740 seats currently available for S/T sales. What with the increased allocations for both home and away supporters (and enclosed nature of the stands) there is going to be a significant increase in the atmosphere at this end of the ground. Listen out Thatchers! If the Centenary had a roof, us old gits would be louder. Mind you most of that is moaning and heckling the opposition! C'mon West Stand library, join the party. |
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Post by Gasshole on May 20, 2023 12:15:04 GMT
Nearly 400 seats have been sold out of the 740 seats currently available for S/T sales. What with the increased allocations for both home and away supporters (and enclosed nature of the stands) there is going to be a significant increase in the atmosphere at this end of the ground. Listen out Thatchers! The Thatchers will always be the loudest & fartyist end. No place I’d rather be. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 20, 2023 12:35:23 GMT
Nearly 400 seats have been sold out of the 740 seats currently available for S/T sales. What with the increased allocations for both home and away supporters (and enclosed nature of the stands) there is going to be a significant increase in the atmosphere at this end of the ground. Listen out Thatchers! Should also create a good atmosphere, for both home and away fans, now that it has a solid roof instead of canvas. |
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Post by badengas on May 20, 2023 13:07:15 GMT
If we could get enough noisy singers in this then we could end up with two "home" ends, and I wouldn't get anxiety if we weren't playing towards the Thatchers in the second half.
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Post by badengas on May 20, 2023 13:08:39 GMT
Nearly 400 seats have been sold out of the 740 seats currently available for S/T sales. What with the increased allocations for both home and away supporters (and enclosed nature of the stands) there is going to be a significant increase in the atmosphere at this end of the ground. Listen out Thatchers! Should also create a good atmosphere, for both home and away fans, now that it has a solid roof instead of canvas. Fit some sound deadening quilt to the underside of the "away" section so they can't be heard ? |
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