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Post by pucklegas on May 27, 2023 6:27:48 GMT
At this rate we'll sell out before the plans are uploaded to the planning portal. If it's from Lego best get a double decker stand 😂😂🏴☠️ |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2023 7:21:43 GMT
Just hope it gets built and is ready for the start of the season. We have until Saturday 12th August. That's just over two months away. Not a chance, in my opinion. But I've been wrong about other things. If it's pretty much a prefabricated metal thinggummy then maybe, but there's the foundations, whatever they might be, water/waste disposal, electricals, fitting out all the seats, the concourse, and all the other things I haven't thought of. Oh yes. Planning permission. Nearly forgot that. When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? |
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Post by percy on May 27, 2023 7:31:35 GMT
That's just over two months away. Not a chance, in my opinion. But I've been wrong about other things. If it's pretty much a prefabricated metal thinggummy then maybe, but there's the foundations, whatever they might be, water/waste disposal, electricals, fitting out all the seats, the concourse, and all the other things I haven't thought of. Oh yes. Planning permission. Nearly forgot that. When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? Don’t think we have to rely on rovers doing it. Imagine this company have done it a million times before. Let’s not panic yet! |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2023 7:44:41 GMT
When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? Don’t think we have to rely on rovers doing it. Imagine this company have done it a million times before. Let’s not panic yet! Oh, i am not panicking @percy but i wouldn’t part with money for a ticket, not just yet. Obviously i want the best for the club |
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Post by playtowin on May 27, 2023 9:52:49 GMT
It will be built and ready for the first home league match.
For the first time ever ,Rovers will have solid roofs on all four sides of a ground.
Evolution continues.
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Post by supergas on May 27, 2023 9:53:40 GMT
When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? I might be wrong but the 'concourse' is just the area underneath the stand. As long as we meet all the safety requirements, that can be completed after the first game. For the stand to be used all you need is the foundations, the basic concrete structure, the seats, the access routes and no construction hazards. Temporary toilets could be brought in to meet the other capacity requirements and (whilst not required) you can have temporary food areas for a game or two... |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 27, 2023 10:04:24 GMT
Obtaining planning permission seems to be a
bigger issue than building it, as the above poster suggested it's not even been validated yet, let alone got to the stage where local residents comments/objections are being sought and then considered once they are received.
I wouldn't be surprised if the tents aren't back in place for the early season games.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 27, 2023 10:14:02 GMT
I am sure everyone involved at Rovers are not idiots and have all the relevant information at hand enabling them to proceed as they have done.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2023 10:30:54 GMT
When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? I might be wrong but the 'concourse' is just the area underneath the stand. As long as we meet all the safety requirements, that can be completed after the first game. For the stand to be used all you need is the foundations, the basic concrete structure, the seats, the access routes and no construction hazards. Temporary toilets could be brought in to meet the other capacity requirements and (whilst not required) you can have temporary food areas for a game or two... I mention the concourse as it was said to be an extra and much needed income for the club but you are right, it could go ahead with that not finished. No doubt |
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Post by Sir Trevor on May 27, 2023 10:42:41 GMT
For those who are certain of the immediate future:
Luton Town are planning something very interesting.
OR
Nothing.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on May 27, 2023 11:04:14 GMT
I am sure everyone involved at Rovers are not idiots and have all the relevant information at hand enabling them to proceed as they have done. Am certainly not intimating anyone is being idiotic but just know that, historically speaking, we have had some big mistakes. |
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Post by kruger on May 27, 2023 11:18:12 GMT
I am sure everyone involved at Rovers are not idiots and have all the relevant information at hand enabling them to proceed as they have done. Am certainly not intimating anyone is being idiotic but just know that, historically speaking, we have had some big mistakes. but this board hasn't I don't think, only past boards, I maybe wrong though |
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Post by poorblue on May 27, 2023 11:34:29 GMT
For those commentating on this matter and have no understanding of construction I will add my thoughts on the assumptions I make. The stand will be manufactured in parts to a standard approved structural design off site in a factory and transported to site by lorry. I assume the order is in place to the manufacturer to an agreed timetable. It will be metal framed and"bolted" together. This type of construction would probably take no more that 4-5 days to erect the "frame" on site. Fitting out with bolted on roof and side panel say another working week. Fitting out with bolted on flooring and seating another week. Lighting safety fencing etc another week. The building regs approval of the metal frame stand is almost a given as it has been used many times elsewhere by the manufacturer. The stand would have a certain number of "feet" points that transfers the weight onto the ground. This would require say 900x 900mm concrete bearing pads set into the ground at those feet positions. The structural engineer would know from the manufacturer what weight each foot has imposed on it. There would be a soil investigation to test the ground bearing capacity to determine the concrete pad size. This is site specific. The site has already been cleared and levelled for construction. The concrete pads could be installed next with any services required to go underground. The whole area could then be tarmaced over rather than concreted to enable the stand to be erected. Fitting out of concourse and toilets I assume will all be temporary removable items as is the existing fanzone area. Open day date to see the new stand still to be confirmed. Hopefully before the 1st FA Cup game  i presume this would be what |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 27, 2023 12:32:00 GMT
Probably. There had been occasions where i did not go because the only available place was the south stand. If i didn’t have to wear goggles then i suspect i could see the game better but it gets really difficult, for me anyway , to see what is going on, around 2/3 up the pitch But my point was, if you are going to be behind the goal (stand F, not the corner/family stand), then surely most would want to be more central (and higher up) otherwise view will be pretty poor. So good to see season tickets already sold, but would imagine more would be tempted if and when more central blocks become available Similar to when they release tickets at Wembley block by block, although Season Ticket holders get some priority, you can end up with somebody further down the pecking order actually getting a better placed seat. I can see the logic of it, however, I'd be a bit miffed at sitting near the corner when more central seats are eventually put on sale. |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 27, 2023 12:36:52 GMT
That's just over two months away. Not a chance, in my opinion. But I've been wrong about other things. If it's pretty much a prefabricated metal thinggummy then maybe, but there's the foundations, whatever they might be, water/waste disposal, electricals, fitting out all the seats, the concourse, and all the other things I haven't thought of. Oh yes. Planning permission. Nearly forgot that. When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? Rovers have contacts with a company which supplies the big screens for quite of few of the Premiership grounds, and are at the forefront of the industry, so I hope that they will utilise this for getting a decent screen installed this time. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2023 13:16:38 GMT
When you think how many problems we had, to fit the big screen, it doesn’t fill me with confidence but let’s hope we are proved wrong , i have no idea on what goes into putting one of these up and the labour needed. Given that it’s got a concourse then I’d guess it’s not so simple a thing ? Don’t think we have to rely on rovers doing it. Imagine this company have done it a million times before. Let’s not panic yet! squad are doing nothing at the moment and getting paid to sit around. Get them down screwfix and pick up some tools. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 27, 2023 13:31:16 GMT
I am sure everyone involved at Rovers are not idiots and have all the relevant information at hand enabling them to proceed as they have done. Am certainly not intimating anyone is being idiotic but just know that, historically speaking, we have had some big mistakes. Agreed, we certainly have but i have faith that the present regime are a little bit more worldly wise. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 27, 2023 14:56:20 GMT
Am certainly not intimating anyone is being idiotic but just know that, historically speaking, we have had some big mistakes. Agreed, we certainly have but i have faith that the present regime are a little bit more worldly wise. I'm pretty certain virtually the same regime overlooked get pp for the family stand and so had to apply for retrospective pp. It's baffling why they've waited until the summer to seek pp for the new stand rather than have pp all sorted during the course of the season so that work could then commence as soon as the season ended. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 27, 2023 15:03:17 GMT
For those commentating on this matter and have no understanding of construction I will add my thoughts on the assumptions I make. The stand will be manufactured in parts to a standard approved structural design off site in a factory and transported to site by lorry. I assume the order is in place to the manufacturer to an agreed timetable. It will be metal framed and"bolted" together. This type of construction would probably take no more that 4-5 days to erect the "frame" on site. Fitting out with bolted on roof and side panel say another working week. Fitting out with bolted on flooring and seating another week. Lighting safety fencing etc another week. The building regs approval of the metal frame stand is almost a given as it has been used many times elsewhere by the manufacturer. The stand would have a certain number of "feet" points that transfers the weight onto the ground. This would require say 900x 900mm concrete bearing pads set into the ground at those feet positions. The structural engineer would know from the manufacturer what weight each foot has imposed on it. There would be a soil investigation to test the ground bearing capacity to determine the concrete pad size. This is site specific. The site has already been cleared and levelled for construction. The concrete pads could be installed next with any services required to go underground. The whole area could then be tarmaced over rather than concreted to enable the stand to be erected. Fitting out of concourse and toilets I assume will all be temporary removable items as is the existing fanzone area. Open day date to see the new stand still to be confirmed. Hopefully before the 1st FA Cup game i presume this would be what Would the club risk having the stand manufactured before they've got pp, as what if the planners insist on changes to the design before they'll grant pp? |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 27, 2023 17:26:02 GMT
For those commentating on this matter and have no understanding of construction I will add my thoughts on the assumptions I make. The stand will be manufactured in parts to a standard approved structural design off site in a factory and transported to site by lorry. I assume the order is in place to the manufacturer to an agreed timetable. It will be metal framed and"bolted" together. This type of construction would probably take no more that 4-5 days to erect the "frame" on site. Fitting out with bolted on roof and side panel say another working week. Fitting out with bolted on flooring and seating another week. Lighting safety fencing etc another week. The building regs approval of the metal frame stand is almost a given as it has been used many times elsewhere by the manufacturer. The stand would have a certain number of "feet" points that transfers the weight onto the ground. This would require say 900x 900mm concrete bearing pads set into the ground at those feet positions. The structural engineer would know from the manufacturer what weight each foot has imposed on it. There would be a soil investigation to test the ground bearing capacity to determine the concrete pad size. This is site specific. The site has already been cleared and levelled for construction. The concrete pads could be installed next with any services required to go underground. The whole area could then be tarmaced over rather than concreted to enable the stand to be erected. Fitting out of concourse and toilets I assume will all be temporary removable items as is the existing fanzone area. Open day date to see the new stand still to be confirmed. Hopefully before the 1st FA Cup game i presume this would be what Would the club risk having the stand manufactured before they've got pp, as what if the planners insist on changes to the design before they'll grant pp? Don't worry - Eddie the Enforcer will be doing home visits to members of the Planning Committe the night before the meeting.  |
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