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Post by trevorgas on Apr 22, 2023 7:01:06 GMT
82ers sh**e forum trying to put a different spin on it, they're turning it all in to negatives, think the Barcelona of Bristol getting a tad twitchy that little old Rovers have exciting things happening F*ck them. They have the gall to call us 'Gypsies', 'Tramps' and 'Thieves', yet they brag about sh*t like this. If it weren't nailed down they'd nick it, if they had no use for it they'd nick it anyway Waving their willies around praising eachother for being scabby, little, thieving scum. Absolute shitstains 🤦♂️🤣 View AttachmentIs that spelling for real or some sort of local dialect? |
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Post by kruger on Apr 22, 2023 7:20:07 GMT
82ers sh**e forum trying to put a different spin on it, they're turning it all in to negatives, think the Barcelona of Bristol getting a tad twitchy that little old Rovers have exciting things happening F*ck them. They have the gall to call us 'Gypsies', 'Tramps' and 'Thieves', yet they brag about sh*t like this. If it weren't nailed down they'd nick it, if they had no use for it they'd nick it anyway Waving their willies around praising eachother for being scabby, little, thieving scum. Absolute shitstains 🤦♂️🤣 View Attachmenthorrible club |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2023 8:42:47 GMT
Who's likely to offer the better, a major property developer with a piece of prime estate in the art of the City or a uni with a bit of waste land they were desperate to develop? But Higgs sorted the initial deal with Uwe! We don't know the full details but know it gave away naming rights, that it included lecture halls, uni gym, jogging track, uni bar etc for Uwe. Will the developers want all that?? 🤣. Only the ones involved will know the fall details. Just hope it is a better deal and that Wael hasn't got to the stage of taking a bad deal, as he couldn't find another site. You've also missed my point, which is Wael, a nice chap but hardly comes across as a ruthless business man, really going to screw Congyer down to a good deal for prime development land, when he apparently couldn't get one out of the UWE for basically land they can't even sell for a reasonable price and possibly still remains undeveloped. |
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Post by keygas on Apr 23, 2023 9:22:08 GMT
But Higgs sorted the initial deal with Uwe! We don't know the full details but know it gave away naming rights, that it included lecture halls, uni gym, jogging track, uni bar etc for Uwe. Will the developers want all that?? 🤣. Only the ones involved will know the fall details. Just hope it is a better deal and that Wael hasn't got to the stage of taking a bad deal, as he couldn't find another site. You've also missed my point, which is Wael, a nice chap but hardly comes across as a ruthless business man, really going to screw Congyer down to a good deal for prime development land, when he apparently couldn't get one out of the UWE for basically land they can't even sell for a reasonable price and possibly still remains undeveloped. I think you will find Wael is a lot smarter than you’re giving him credit for, besides his family’s financial background, he was educated at Westminster school London & gained a business degree at Boston University Massachusetts. Dont forget English is not his first language & may not always come over as you say a ruthless business man & when you mention the UWE deal, he makes it quite clear that it was a poor deal for the long term sustainability of Bristol Rovers football club. |
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Post by trueblur4u on Apr 23, 2023 9:47:17 GMT
All I know is the endless talks are ongoing for years!
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Post by bathtubpirate on Apr 23, 2023 9:53:58 GMT
Made the mistake of looking at their obsessive Rovers thread where they make jokes at the expense of disabled people and the homeless.
If I ran or moderated that forum I would be ashamed.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2023 10:41:16 GMT
You've also missed my point, which is Wael, a nice chap but hardly comes across as a ruthless business man, really going to screw Congyer down to a good deal for prime development land, when he apparently couldn't get one out of the UWE for basically land they can't even sell for a reasonable price and possibly still remains undeveloped. I think you will find Wael is a lot smarter than you’re giving him credit for, besides his family’s financial background, he was educated at Westminster school London & gained a business degree at Boston University Massachusetts. Dont forget English is not his first language & may not always come over as you say a ruthless business man & when you mention the UWE deal, he makes it quite clear that it was a poor deal for the long term sustainability of Bristol Rovers football club. What's an education got to do with anything, surely you are not saying if you go to private school you automatically become a good businessman? The fact he spent so long being educated in England suggests he has no problems conversing in the English language. If he was such a good businessman how on earth is he losing £4m p.a. on a L2/L1 football club, we're most likely losing more than any other similar size club at our level. |
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Post by keygas on Apr 23, 2023 11:13:15 GMT
I think you will find Wael is a lot smarter than you’re giving him credit for, besides his family’s financial background, he was educated at Westminster school London & gained a business degree at Boston University Massachusetts. Dont forget English is not his first language & may not always come over as you say a ruthless business man & when you mention the UWE deal, he makes it quite clear that it was a poor deal for the long term sustainability of Bristol Rovers football club. What's an education got to do with anything, surely you are not saying if you go to private school you automatically become a good businessman? The fact he spent so long being educated in England suggests he has no problems conversing in the English language. If he was such a good businessman how on earth is he losing £4m p.a. on a L2/L1 football club, we're most likely losing more than any other similar size club at our level. If you think Wael is a poor businessman because we lost £3.7 m over the 21/22 season, what does that make Steve Lansdown at his club when they lost £28.5m over the same period. It not all about financial balance sheets, it’s about investing to make their clubs more sustainable going forward. The cost of the new proposed South stand will mean another loss when added to the accounts, but hopefully there will be a payback over the coming seasons. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 23, 2023 11:17:08 GMT
What's an education got to do with anything, surely you are not saying if you go to private school you automatically become a good businessman? The fact he spent so long being educated in England suggests he has no problems conversing in the English language. If he was such a good businessman how on earth is he losing £4m p.a. on a L2/L1 football club, we're most likely losing more than any other similar size club at our level. If you think Wael is a poor businessman because we lost £3.7 m over the 21/22 season, what does that make Steve Lansdown at his club when they lost £28.5m over the same period. It not all about financial balance sheets, it’s about investing to make their clubs more sustainable going forward. Can’t compare due to the huge amounts paid to play championship football. Look at what they have paid for players, then remember our record is still below 400k |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 23, 2023 11:39:28 GMT
I think you will find Wael is a lot smarter than you’re giving him credit for, besides his family’s financial background, he was educated at Westminster school London & gained a business degree at Boston University Massachusetts. Dont forget English is not his first language & may not always come over as you say a ruthless business man & when you mention the UWE deal, he makes it quite clear that it was a poor deal for the long term sustainability of Bristol Rovers football club. What's an education got to do with anything, surely you are not saying if you go to private school you automatically become a good businessman? The fact he spent so long being educated in England suggests he has no problems conversing in the English language. If he was such a good businessman how on earth is he losing £4m p.a. on a L2/L1 football club, we're most likely losing more than any other similar size club at our level. I’m sure he knows a lot more about business than you and I Topper. You could argue he is ruthless because he ditched the UWE deal as he didn’t get the deal he wanted…. Despite knowing it would be devastating to Gasheads at the time . As he explained clearly in his interview, that he sees the Gas as a love and an investment. By improving the infrastructure and climbing the leagues losses will hopefully fall and we may even post profits in the future . If he bought the Gas for ( total guess) £5m , he’s spends 100m to get the Club into the championship in a new stadium….. how much is the club worth then ? I’d argue a lot more than £105m . |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2023 11:42:28 GMT
What's an education got to do with anything, surely you are not saying if you go to private school you automatically become a good businessman? The fact he spent so long being educated in England suggests he has no problems conversing in the English language. If he was such a good businessman how on earth is he losing £4m p.a. on a L2/L1 football club, we're most likely losing more than any other similar size club at our level. If you think Wael is a poor businessman because we lost £3.7 m over the 21/22 season, what does that make Steve Lansdown at his club when they lost £28.5m over the same period. It not all about financial balance sheets, it’s about investing to make their clubs more sustainable going forward. The cost of the new proposed South stand will mean another loss when added to the accounts, but hopefully there will be a payback over the coming seasons. I bet TG/JB are coming up with similar nonsense to justify wasting £3m/£4m of Wael's money each season, there's no way Wael's ever getting any of that back unless he ever sells the Mem to cover his losses. |
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 23, 2023 11:44:58 GMT
If you think Wael is a poor businessman because we lost £3.7 m over the 21/22 season, what does that make Steve Lansdown at his club when they lost £28.5m over the same period. It not all about financial balance sheets, it’s about investing to make their clubs more sustainable going forward. The cost of the new proposed South stand will mean another loss when added to the accounts, but hopefully there will be a payback over the coming seasons. I bet TG/JB are coming up with similar nonsense to justify wasting £3m/£4m of Wael's money each season, there's no way Wael's ever getting any of that back unless he ever sells the Mem to cover his losses. I’d imagine he is beyond the point of getting what he has put in, back. Our losses got significantly higher after the family bought the club |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 23, 2023 11:46:11 GMT
If you think Wael is a poor businessman because we lost £3.7 m over the 21/22 season, what does that make Steve Lansdown at his club when they lost £28.5m over the same period. It not all about financial balance sheets, it’s about investing to make their clubs more sustainable going forward. The cost of the new proposed South stand will mean another loss when added to the accounts, but hopefully there will be a payback over the coming seasons. I bet TG/JB are coming up with similar nonsense to justify wasting £3m/£4m of Wael's money each season, there's no way Wael's ever getting any of that back unless he ever sells the Mem to cover his losses. Not saying it would be easy in the slightest or even possibly a realistic outcome but if he got us a new stadium, new training ground, and managed to get us to the premier league, then he could make an absolute killing on us. He mentions getting us to the championship as a minimum but I think the true goal like with Joe is to eventually get us to the big time. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 23, 2023 11:46:42 GMT
I bet TG/JB are coming up with similar nonsense to justify wasting £3m/£4m of Wael's money each season, there's no way Wael's ever getting any of that back unless he ever sells the Mem to cover his losses. I’d imagine he is beyond the point of getting what he has put in, back. Our losses got significantly higher after the family bought the club What does it matter if he's paying it off? |
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 23, 2023 12:02:55 GMT
All I know is the endless talks are ongoing for years! Hi Ted. |
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Post by Marshy on Apr 23, 2023 12:23:05 GMT
All I know is the endless talks are ongoing for years! Yeah I know, but you never get that that problem at trashton do you untrueblue? Not with the rosy faced tax dodger, he gets his cheque book out and hey presto! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2023 12:26:49 GMT
What's an education got to do with anything, surely you are not saying if you go to private school you automatically become a good businessman? The fact he spent so long being educated in England suggests he has no problems conversing in the English language. If he was such a good businessman how on earth is he losing £4m p.a. on a L2/L1 football club, we're most likely losing more than any other similar size club at our level. I’m sure he knows a lot more about business than you and I Topper. You could argue he is ruthless because he ditched the UWE deal as he didn’t get the deal he wanted…. Despite knowing it would be devastating to Gasheads at the time . As he explained clearly in his interview, that he sees the Gas as a love and an investment. By improving the infrastructure and climbing the leagues losses will hopefully fall and we may even post profits in the future . If he bought the Gas for ( total guess) £5m , he’s spends 100m to get the Club into the championship in a new stadium….. how much is the club worth then ? I’d argue a lot more than £105m . I assume that was also Lansdown's plan but he's down over £100m(?) and seems to be now looking to bail out. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 23, 2023 12:32:45 GMT
I’d imagine he is beyond the point of getting what he has put in, back. Our losses got significantly higher after the family bought the club What does it matter if he's paying it off? Nothing we discuss on Gaschat really matters but Wael did suggest he sees Rovers as an investment so must be looking to eventually get his money back, I can't see a business man just being content to write off to £4m p.a. on a foreign football club without some end in sight. |
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Post by Marshy on Apr 23, 2023 12:37:30 GMT
I’m sure he knows a lot more about business than you and I Topper. You could argue he is ruthless because he ditched the UWE deal as he didn’t get the deal he wanted…. Despite knowing it would be devastating to Gasheads at the time . As he explained clearly in his interview, that he sees the Gas as a love and an investment. By improving the infrastructure and climbing the leagues losses will hopefully fall and we may even post profits in the future . If he bought the Gas for ( total guess) £5m , he’s spends 100m to get the Club into the championship in a new stadium….. how much is the club worth then ? I’d argue a lot more than £105m . I assume that was also Lansdown's plan but he's down over £100m(?) and seems to be now looking to bail out. And the rest, I can’t wait until he does go the sh**e will be bankrupt within 2 years. In words of Kevin Keegan - I would love, just love it! 💩 |
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Post by Quarters on Apr 23, 2023 13:10:53 GMT
What does it matter if he's paying it off? Nothing we discuss on Gaschat really matters but Wael did suggest he sees Rovers as an investment so must be looking to eventually get his money back, I can't see a business man just being content to write off to £4m p.a. on a foreign football club without some end in sight. Did he say that? I heard in same that the new ground would be an investment for Rovers. People can invest while not looking for financial gain. |
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