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Post by eric on Apr 25, 2023 20:53:38 GMT
Plymouth and Ipswich going up automatically by the look of it. Fair play to both. Plymouth a great example to follow, most of the top 6 have substantially larger budgets than them but they’ve built a side with a solid defence, great work ethic and imperious home form. Isn’t our ex player Hughes a coach there. I wonder what he could have done with our defence? |
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Post by Quarters on Apr 25, 2023 20:54:23 GMT
Tackling?  Didn't he just prove he's incapable of making a decent tackle? Won the 2nd highest amount of tackles in our squad this season (Finley top). Tonight not his finest night for that, though! must be a low count |
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Post by axegas on Apr 25, 2023 20:55:58 GMT
Only 400 gas there, was that all we were allocated?
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 25, 2023 20:58:26 GMT
Only 400 gas there, was that all we were allocated? Muff fan said we'd returned a load. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 25, 2023 20:58:51 GMT
Just got back.... from ifollow.
Looked like an end of season match last year when we were going for it against on off form middle the road opponents. We huffed and puffed and eventually blew their door down, it was waiting to happen, just we helped them along the way by unhinging Evans red card door...
We got what we deserved.
Amazing game by Belly, it could've been embarrassing if not for his saves and organisation, my m o m.
The rest, well I thought we defended ok but gifted them 2 free headers - which they missed completely- we came out of it, ok. Not brilliant. We just tried to get everyone behind the ball and await for the avalanche...
Probably one of the best Plymouth sides I've seen, reminds me of their play like Coventry in their promotion season...we couldn't beat them either.
No complaints.
We got what we deserved and done well to keep it at 2 against a very form and sharp side.
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 25, 2023 20:59:22 GMT
Plymouth and Ipswich going up automatically by the look of it. Fair play to both. Plymouth a great example to follow, most of the top 6 have substantially larger budgets than them but they’ve built a side with a solid defence, great work ethic and imperious home form. Interesting. You might have missed the bit where they have a substantially bigger stadium and better facilities. I bet you everything that their budget is substantially higher than ours. They had 16,000 fans in there tonight which is almost double our capacity. They are far from an example of a regular club come good, they’re just another club with a bigger and better ground attracting bigger and better players with bigger and better wages. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Apr 25, 2023 21:01:50 GMT
Score line respectable given the circumstances, thought we fought well and never gave up against a team whose wide players were very dangerous, don't think you can fault the effort of the team . was first goal preventable ? defenders were right at scorers back but he tried something and it came off, fortune was with him, i for one not to despondent as i saw a team battling to the end v a more creative Argyle side.
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Post by axegas on Apr 25, 2023 21:02:49 GMT
Plymouth a great example to follow, most of the top 6 have substantially larger budgets than them but they’ve built a side with a solid defence, great work ethic and imperious home form. Interesting. You might have missed the bit where they have a substantially bigger stadium and better facilities. I bet you everything that their budget is substantially higher than ours. They had 16,000 fans in there tonight which is almost double our capacity. They are far from an example of a regular club come good, they’re just another club with a bigger and better ground attracting bigger and better players with bigger and better players. They’re a bigger club than us with better facilities for sure. However the gap between them and us is a lot smaller than the gap between them and Ipswich/Derby which was more my point. We could definitely be a similar size club to them if we had a new stadium IMO. |
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Post by Quarters on Apr 25, 2023 21:04:36 GMT
As we have seen from the three games out of the last four, effort is not enough.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 25, 2023 21:11:51 GMT
A hard task with 11 made a whole lot harder by a preventable red card. I actually thought Marquis was fouled just before Evans 2nd booking but already on a yellow I really don't know what he was thinking. Can't really have any complaints.
We battled hard, Belshaw excellent as was Ward, we had a couple of moments but in all honesty from the sending off onwards it was damage limitation.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 25, 2023 21:12:29 GMT
Well just finished watching that. Although not the best of games they gave everything tonight and the defence played well, mostly. No problems with the effort. Argyle far the better side and they concentrated on football and trying to get forward. The overhead kick was a great goal, hard to defend against it despite what the commentators said. Argyle were focussed on promotion and deserved the win. Collins needs to stop the diving and use his strengths to try and get a shot or pass in. Obviously not a penalty. Evans two clear yellow cards which more or less decided the game. Hate to say it but I thought the ref got all the big decisions right. Let the game flow (unfortunately!).
Well done James Belshaw, MOM I think. Finley when he came on tried to get us moving and did well as did Gordon and Gibbons. It was a shame Coburn was sacrificed because he was giving the CH an uncomfortable evening before he went off.
UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 25, 2023 21:14:47 GMT
Interesting. You might have missed the bit where they have a substantially bigger stadium and better facilities. I bet you everything that their budget is substantially higher than ours. They had 16,000 fans in there tonight which is almost double our capacity. They are far from an example of a regular club come good, they’re just another club with a bigger and better ground attracting bigger and better players with bigger and better players. They’re a bigger club than us with better facilities for sure. However the gap between them and us is a lot smaller than the gap between them and Ipswich/Derby which was more my point. We could definitely be a similar size club to them if we had a new stadium IMO. Whilst our billionaire owner is waiting for somebody to plan, build and pay for a new stadium in the next decade or so Plymouth have just got on and developed their existing ground. |
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Post by meadgas on Apr 25, 2023 21:16:36 GMT
Fourth meeting between the two sides this season. Argyle have scored TWO goals in each game. Their loanees make more impact on games than ours. This match highlights our failings. Plymouth are miles better than us. We lack creativity and composure. Next fixture please. Thought it was 1-1 at their place and they won the pen shoot out, unless i've forgotten a couple of goals |
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 25, 2023 21:19:13 GMT
Interesting. You might have missed the bit where they have a substantially bigger stadium and better facilities. I bet you everything that their budget is substantially higher than ours. They had 16,000 fans in there tonight which is almost double our capacity. They are far from an example of a regular club come good, they’re just another club with a bigger and better ground attracting bigger and better players with bigger and better players. They’re a bigger club than us with better facilities for sure. However the gap between them and us is a lot smaller than the gap between them and Ipswich/Derby which was more my point. We could definitely be a similar size club to them if we had a new stadium IMO. I think we are already doing that. On what we can afford, with less than half the revenue, mid table is an achievement. They can simply just buy better players so pro rata we are doing similarly. For us to follow their example isn’t possible because we need an extra million quid or more per year and another 8000 fans at games to help influence. We can’t. So with what we have we are doing as well as they are. I just can’t see how we can ever emulate them in current context. It’s pretty depressing a poxy town like Plymouth are so far ahead. Being a one club city helps I guess. Plus pulling in a lot of people from the county. 30 years ago and before championship was a place we went to occasionally and the top flight was the dream. Seems now league 1 is a place we get to occasionally and the championship is a dream. After all the crap we’ve been though, homelessness, surviving, the conference, you’d think fate would favour us once but as usual it’s teams who shat a golden egg and managed to get stadiums as per usual bullying their way to the best players and despite our comparable fan base we have to eat it up. Things can change, I guess but I’m just mainly objecting to the idea a club with among the best facilities in the division have some kind of glorious spot as a rags to riches story when by numbers they should be top six anyway |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 25, 2023 21:31:18 GMT
They’re a bigger club than us with better facilities for sure. However the gap between them and us is a lot smaller than the gap between them and Ipswich/Derby which was more my point. We could definitely be a similar size club to them if we had a new stadium IMO. I think we are already doing that. On what we can afford, with less than half the revenue, mid table is an achievement. They can simply just buy better players so pro rata we are doing similarly. For us to follow their example isn’t possible because we need an extra million quid or more per year and another 8000 fans at games to help influence. We can’t. So with what we have we are doing as well as they are. I just can’t see how we can ever emulate them in current context. It’s pretty depressing a poxy town like Plymouth are so far ahead. Being a one club city helps I guess. Plus pulling in a lot of people from the county. 30 years ago and before championship was a place we went to occasionally and the top flight was the dream. Seems now league 1 is a place we get to occasionally and the championship is a dream. After all the crap we’ve been though, homelessness, surviving, the conference, you’d think fate would favour us once but as usual it’s teams who shat a golden egg and managed to get stadiums as per usual bullying their way to the best players and despite our comparable fan base we have to eat it up. Things can change, I guess but I’m just mainly objecting to the idea a club with among the best facilities in the division have some kind of glorious spot as a rags to riches story when by numbers they should be top six anyway You only have to look at the league table to see money & ground capacity really is telling . All the big clubs in the top 6 with Portsmouth just outside along with Peterborough who seems to buck the trend . We’ll have a massive struggle to mount a serious promotion push with what we’ve got . |
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Post by herbertblake on Apr 25, 2023 21:34:02 GMT
Jb post match interview saying needs 12 new signings one likely to be Grant Ward.says he would like Bogarde and Coburn back on loan.
He praised performance of Sub Loft. I find that difficult to accept. Belshaw not mentioned who was clearly man of the match and kept score respectful.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 25, 2023 21:42:35 GMT
They’re a bigger club than us with better facilities for sure. However the gap between them and us is a lot smaller than the gap between them and Ipswich/Derby which was more my point. We could definitely be a similar size club to them if we had a new stadium IMO. I think we are already doing that. On what we can afford, with less than half the revenue, mid table is an achievement. They can simply just buy better players so pro rata we are doing similarly. For us to follow their example isn’t possible because we need an extra million quid or more per year and another 8000 fans at games to help influence. We can’t. So with what we have we are doing as well as they are. I just can’t see how we can ever emulate them in current context. It’s pretty depressing a poxy town like Plymouth are so far ahead. Being a one club city helps I guess. Plus pulling in a lot of people from the county. 30 years ago and before championship was a place we went to occasionally and the top flight was the dream. Seems now league 1 is a place we get to occasionally and the championship is a dream. After all the crap we’ve been though, homelessness, surviving, the conference, you’d think fate would favour us once but as usual it’s teams who shat a golden egg and managed to get stadiums as per usual bullying their way to the best players and despite our comparable fan base we have to eat it up. Things can change, I guess but I’m just mainly objecting to the idea a club with among the best facilities in the division have some kind of glorious spot as a rags to riches story when by numbers they should be top six anyway Plymouth didn't just get lucky getting a decent sized ground neither did they get one due to being a one club city they got one by investing in their present something our owners have shown no willingness to do. I wonder what money Home Park generates Sunday to Friday the Mem apparently couldn't generate? Although what is their wage bill given Wael's throwing £4m at ours each season anyway. |
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Post by keygas on Apr 25, 2023 21:56:46 GMT
Disappointing result, watched on ifollow, thought it had the makings of a cracking game until Evans gets himself sent off after only 26 minute’s & then you knew that playing the top of league with a boisterous crowd behind them it was going to be a case of damage limitation.
Only positives to come out of the match for me was Belly was back to his best & Grant Ward is starting to look the quality player that a lot of his fans of his previous clubs were saying & hopefully we can hold onto him next season.
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 25, 2023 22:27:20 GMT
He’s a good player, gives his all, stupid yellow card or not, I’d rather Evans over a Matt Gill, Craig Stanley or Justin Skinner. That's a pretty low bar you've set! Personally I wouldn't be disappointed if JB announced we're prepared to listen to offers for Evans and McCormick, as if we want to compete at Piymouth's level neither are good enough. McCormick has done nothing thus season, Evans has battled, also berm double marked game upon game. |
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 25, 2023 22:28:25 GMT
He’s a good player, gives his all, stupid yellow card or not, I’d rather Evans over a Matt Gill, Craig Stanley or Justin Skinner. Not sure where the comparison with Gill, Stanley or Skinner has come from 😂 Won’t find me disagreeing with that! I agree he’s a good player. Just a better player than he’s shown this season, IMO. I’ll chick you in a Waddock just for humour value. |
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Didn't he just prove he's incapable of making a decent tackle?
