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Jul 16, 2023 14:48:41 GMT
Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 14:48:41 GMT
He is a human Chamelion and , with consummate ease, adapts to his surrounding and people around him. Personally i do not enjoy this type of personality and i have met a few, you just cannot rely upon them to be stable or keep their word or, at least, that has been my experience Perhaps KP but my point was we are all able to differ our behaviours depending upon the environment we are in. And we all do. And most of us adapt to the norms expected in different situations. I’m sure JB does as well. Most do it and are able to maintain a level of stability. UTG! Well, i did say in my experience and that has, not yet, show one of this kind to be decent. A little tip, do not lend money to a chamelion personality 😉
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 14:51:54 GMT
🤔actually oldie some of the things he says I agree with, not all by a long stretch, but some I do. make of that what you will 🤐🤣 💙utg It's funny isn't it - the people who have actually listened to Tate, have a very different opinion of him than the people who haven't listened to him. Who'd have thunk it! Jordan Peterson seems to be down with him, personally i think he relies, much too much, on possessions and allowing them to define him. I really do not like hearing women called bitches and how he tries to rationalise screwing around , because it’s a function. One day he will realise that cars, jewellery and the rest, do not hug you, comfort you or give anything but transient happiness
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Post by phillistine on Jul 16, 2023 15:07:32 GMT
Barton has been used to being in football changing rooms ever since school and they seem full of laddish behaviour - you only have to look at someone like Grealish to see that in full flow. The fact that Barton is able to adapt according to his situation is good in that it makes others who meet him feel more comfortable if they can relate to him. The lad who mentioned the cup of tea above shows that in action. You cant criticise someone for that - its a skill that some people simply dont have . actually - sorry you can criticise him for that - as you obviously have I am generalising about that subtype. If you have ever read Skinner or books on human behaviourism then it’s very interesting, to me at least. It would be , maybe, good if he was sincere but the chamelion personality can be…ah why do i bother. Enjoy what is left of the weekend I actually have read a lot of books on human behaviour as it happens. The thing about our manager is that everything he says or does is judged on social media by people like you and I. I cant imagine how difficult that is to deal with as it means analysing everything you say or do to ensure that it cannot be misinterpreted by those who wish to stick the knife in . The alternative is to say nothing - which he cannot really do in view of the nature of his work - or just get on with life in the hope that people who matter to him will accept him for what he is. its not about living a chamelon type life , its about the way that his actions are interpreted and edited in the media that we read. You only have to analyse recent happenings to see how true that is
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Post by oldie on Jul 16, 2023 15:14:39 GMT
I am generalising about that subtype. If you have ever read Skinner or books on human behaviourism then it’s very interesting, to me at least. It would be , maybe, good if he was sincere but the chamelion personality can be…ah why do i bother. Enjoy what is left of the weekend I actually have read a lot of books on human behaviour as it happens. The thing about our manager is that everything he says or does is judged on social media by people like you and I. I cant imagine how difficult that is to deal with as it means analysing everything you say or do to ensure that it cannot be misinterpreted by those who wish to stick the knife in . The alternative is to say nothing - which he cannot really do in view of the nature of his work - or just get on with life in the hope that people who matter to him will accept him for what he is. its not about living a chamelon type life , its about the way that his actions are interpreted and edited in the media that we read. You only have to analyse recent happenings to see how true that is Try re reading your words and then substantiate them...
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Jul 16, 2023 17:08:00 GMT
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 16, 2023 17:08:00 GMT
It's funny isn't it - the people who have actually listened to Tate, have a very different opinion of him than the people who haven't listened to him. Who'd have thunk it! Jordan Peterson seems to be down with him, personally i think he relies, much too much, on possessions and allowing them to define him. I really do not like hearing women called bitches and how he tries to rationalise screwing around , because it’s a function. One day he will realise that cars, jewellery and the rest, do not hug you, comfort you or give anything but transient happiness Quite the opposite KP. JP actually hasn’t commented much on Tate but what he has commented on isn’t particularly favourable. Personally I quite like listening to Peterson. Fact based and intelligent debate which is hard to argue against. His famous interview with Cathy Dennis as an example of that.
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Post by oldie on Jul 16, 2023 18:02:39 GMT
Jordan Peterson seems to be down with him, personally i think he relies, much too much, on possessions and allowing them to define him. I really do not like hearing women called bitches and how he tries to rationalise screwing around , because it’s a function. One day he will realise that cars, jewellery and the rest, do not hug you, comfort you or give anything but transient happiness Quite the opposite KP. JP actually hasn’t commented much on Tate but what he has commented on isn’t particularly favourable. Personally I quite like listening to Peterson. Fact based and intelligent debate which is hard to argue against. His famous interview with Cathy Dennis as an example of that. You think? "The question that interests me most now is: Given that I think Peterson’s apocalyptic black-and-white worldview is incredibly dangerous and delusional, what can be done to de-radicalize his followers and keep them from joining the right-wing mission to eradicate “leftism” and “transgenderism” from the world?" Indeed. From this publication, www.currentaffairs.org/2023/06/the-process-of-leaving-jordan-peterson-behind
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Jul 16, 2023 18:07:54 GMT
Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 18:07:54 GMT
I am generalising about that subtype. If you have ever read Skinner or books on human behaviourism then it’s very interesting, to me at least. It would be , maybe, good if he was sincere but the chamelion personality can be…ah why do i bother. Enjoy what is left of the weekend I actually have read a lot of books on human behaviour as it happens. The thing about our manager is that everything he says or does is judged on social media by people like you and I. I cant imagine how difficult that is to deal with as it means analysing everything you say or do to ensure that it cannot be misinterpreted by those who wish to stick the knife in . The alternative is to say nothing - which he cannot really do in view of the nature of his work - or just get on with life in the hope that people who matter to him will accept him for what he is. its not about living a chamelon type life , its about the way that his actions are interpreted and edited in the media that we read. You only have to analyse recent happenings to see how true that is But, he can chose what he writes and yet he chooses to write tweets that he , very well knows, will be of a controversial nature. Work that one out
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Jul 16, 2023 18:11:04 GMT
Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 18:11:04 GMT
Jordan Peterson seems to be down with him, personally i think he relies, much too much, on possessions and allowing them to define him. I really do not like hearing women called bitches and how he tries to rationalise screwing around , because it’s a function. One day he will realise that cars, jewellery and the rest, do not hug you, comfort you or give anything but transient happiness Quite the opposite KP. JP actually hasn’t commented much on Tate but what he has commented on isn’t particularly favourable. Personally I quite like listening to Peterson. Fact based and intelligent debate which is hard to argue against. His famous interview with Cathy Dennis as an example of that. Do you use instagram ? I would say that JP has given a fair bit of time and even some mild praise to Tate. I am not the type to go over his content but i am sure there are those that do and maybe will. The next one i see, i will post here. It’s been more, of late
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Jul 16, 2023 18:16:00 GMT
Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 16, 2023 18:16:00 GMT
Quite the opposite KP. JP actually hasn’t commented much on Tate but what he has commented on isn’t particularly favourable. Personally I quite like listening to Peterson. Fact based and intelligent debate which is hard to argue against. His famous interview with Cathy Dennis as an example of that. You think? "The question that interests me most now is: Given that I think Peterson’s apocalyptic black-and-white worldview is incredibly dangerous and delusional, what can be done to de-radicalize his followers and keep them from joining the right-wing mission to eradicate “leftism” and “transgenderism” from the world?" Indeed. From this publication, www.currentaffairs.org/2023/06/the-process-of-leaving-jordan-peterson-behindThat makes form a very decent read, thank you
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 19:47:28 GMT
I am generalising about that subtype. If you have ever read Skinner or books on human behaviourism then it’s very interesting, to me at least. It would be , maybe, good if he was sincere but the chamelion personality can be…ah why do i bother. Enjoy what is left of the weekend I actually have read a lot of books on human behaviour as it happens. The thing about our manager is that everything he says or does is judged on social media by people like you and I. I cant imagine how difficult that is to deal with as it means analysing everything you say or do to ensure that it cannot be misinterpreted by those who wish to stick the knife in . The alternative is to say nothing - which he cannot really do in view of the nature of his work - or just get on with life in the hope that people who matter to him will accept him for what he is. its not about living a chamelon type life , its about the way that his actions are interpreted and edited in the media that we read. You only have to analyse recent happenings to see how true that is This is utter nonsense. It really isn't hard to not comment on things that are entirely outside the remit of your job. Particularly when those things are obviously going to be controversial. "I can't imagine how difficult that is". Jesus wept.
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Post by orgasmic on Jul 16, 2023 19:57:14 GMT
Quite the opposite KP. JP actually hasn’t commented much on Tate but what he has commented on isn’t particularly favourable. Personally I quite like listening to Peterson. Fact based and intelligent debate which is hard to argue against. His famous interview with Cathy Dennis as an example of that. You think? "The question that interests me most now is: Given that I think Peterson’s apocalyptic black-and-white worldview is incredibly dangerous and delusional, what can be done to de-radicalize his followers and keep them from joining the right-wing mission to eradicate “leftism” and “transgenderism” from the world?" Indeed. From this publication, www.currentaffairs.org/2023/06/the-process-of-leaving-jordan-peterson-behindThis is the biggest nonsense article I’ve read in a long time! Written from a fixed mindset mentality of left versus right in his own black and white ideology. Bias to the point of recommending people subscribe themselves and any right leaning friends to this very publication. I can’t take a word of it seriously! As a left leaning person myself, it’s this sort of approach and mindset that keeps the left fractured and often a laughing stock! Good grief!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2023 20:09:12 GMT
I am generalising about that subtype. If you have ever read Skinner or books on human behaviourism then it’s very interesting, to me at least. It would be , maybe, good if he was sincere but the chamelion personality can be…ah why do i bother. Enjoy what is left of the weekend I actually have read a lot of books on human behaviour as it happens. The thing about our manager is that everything he says or does is judged on social media by people like you and I. I cant imagine how difficult that is to deal with as it means analysing everything you say or do to ensure that it cannot be misinterpreted by those who wish to stick the knife in . The alternative is to say nothing - which he cannot really do in view of the nature of his work - or just get on with life in the hope that people who matter to him will accept him for what he is. its not about living a chamelon type life , its about the way that his actions are interpreted and edited in the media that we read. You only have to analyse recent happenings to see how true that is You realise Joey Barton is nothing in the grand scheme of fame? A two bit rent a gob? Hundreds of celebrities manage to not draw themselves in to commenting on things that don't need to be commented on. The fact Joey can't is his desperate need for attention. Can't wait til he's gone.
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Jul 16, 2023 20:09:50 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 16, 2023 20:09:50 GMT
You think? "The question that interests me most now is: Given that I think Peterson’s apocalyptic black-and-white worldview is incredibly dangerous and delusional, what can be done to de-radicalize his followers and keep them from joining the right-wing mission to eradicate “leftism” and “transgenderism” from the world?" Indeed. From this publication, www.currentaffairs.org/2023/06/the-process-of-leaving-jordan-peterson-behindThis is the biggest nonsense article I’ve read in a long time! Written from a fixed mindset mentality of left versus right in his own black and white ideology. Bias to the point of recommending people subscribe themselves and any right leaning friends to this very publication. I can’t take a word of it seriously! As a left leaning person myself, it’s this sort of approach and mindset that keeps the left fractured and often a laughing stock! Good grief! But the point being, that is exactly the standpoint of people like Peterson. Unless you can show otherwise...can you?
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Jul 16, 2023 20:20:18 GMT
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 16, 2023 20:20:18 GMT
You think? "The question that interests me most now is: Given that I think Peterson’s apocalyptic black-and-white worldview is incredibly dangerous and delusional, what can be done to de-radicalize his followers and keep them from joining the right-wing mission to eradicate “leftism” and “transgenderism” from the world?" Indeed. From this publication, www.currentaffairs.org/2023/06/the-process-of-leaving-jordan-peterson-behindThat makes form a very decent read, thank you Hmmm, it seems like a hater and a defector, if you could actually call him that, getting together to write a critical article. I’m not saying I agree with everything JP says, however I think he’s absolutely right when it comes to his transgender crusade against them in women’s sports and exposing the utter ridiculous ideology that trans men have no advantage over a biological female. I’ve read his 12 Rules for life book, and again, I see some value of the practical things he said, I’ve heard 50% of the sort of things on training courses over the years since the late 90s so not much of it is new information. One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk. One recent snippet on JPs opinion on Tate can be found here. www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-i-m-great-admirer-pi-s-jordan-peterson-gets-real-andrew-tate-says-appeal-like-violent-rapper
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Jul 16, 2023 21:09:49 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jul 16, 2023 21:09:49 GMT
That makes form a very decent read, thank you Hmmm, it seems like a hater and a defector, if you could actually call him that, getting together to write a critical article. I’m not saying I agree with everything JP says, however I think he’s absolutely right when it comes to his transgender crusade against them in women’s sports and exposing the utter ridiculous ideology that trans men have no advantage over a biological female. I’ve read his 12 Rules for life book, and again, I see some value of the practical things he said, I’ve heard 50% of the sort of things on training courses over the years since the late 90s so not much of it is new information. One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk. One recent snippet on JPs opinion on Tate can be found here. www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-i-m-great-admirer-pi-s-jordan-peterson-gets-real-andrew-tate-says-appeal-like-violent-rapper"One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk." Really "For rightwing commentator Melanie Phillips, he is “a kind of secular prophet … in an era of lobotomised conformism”. He is also adored by figures on the so-called alt-light (basically the “alt-right” without the sieg heils and the white ethnostate), including Mike Cernovich, Gavin McInnes and Paul Joseph Watson." And "Last November, fellow University of Toronto professor Ira Wells called him “the professor of piffle” – a YouTube star rather than a credible intellectual. Tabatha Southey, a columnist for the Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. And "Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” More "The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”. White privilege is “a Marxist lie”. Believing that gender identity is subjective is “as bad as claiming that the world is flat”. Unsurprisingly, he was an early supporter of James Damore, the engineer fired by Google for his memo Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber." Finally "Peterson’s constellation of beliefs attracts a heterogeneous audience that includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis. This staunch anti-authoritarian also has a striking habit of demonising the left while downplaying dangers from the right. After the 2016 US election, Peterson described Trump as a “liberal” and a “moderate”, no more of a demagogue than Reagan. In as much as Trump voters are intolerant, Peterson claims, it is the left’s fault for sacrificing the working class on the altar of identity politics" From that one can sort of understand why a personality like Barton might be attracted to Peterson. All of those quotes were from papers and interviews of 5 years ago.
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 16, 2023 22:09:41 GMT
Hmmm, it seems like a hater and a defector, if you could actually call him that, getting together to write a critical article. I’m not saying I agree with everything JP says, however I think he’s absolutely right when it comes to his transgender crusade against them in women’s sports and exposing the utter ridiculous ideology that trans men have no advantage over a biological female. I’ve read his 12 Rules for life book, and again, I see some value of the practical things he said, I’ve heard 50% of the sort of things on training courses over the years since the late 90s so not much of it is new information. One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk. One recent snippet on JPs opinion on Tate can be found here. www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-i-m-great-admirer-pi-s-jordan-peterson-gets-real-andrew-tate-says-appeal-like-violent-rapper"One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk." Really "For rightwing commentator Melanie Phillips, he is “a kind of secular prophet … in an era of lobotomised conformism”. He is also adored by figures on the so-called alt-light (basically the “alt-right” without the sieg heils and the white ethnostate), including Mike Cernovich, Gavin McInnes and Paul Joseph Watson." And "Last November, fellow University of Toronto professor Ira Wells called him “the professor of piffle” – a YouTube star rather than a credible intellectual. Tabatha Southey, a columnist for the Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. And "Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” More "The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”. White privilege is “a Marxist lie”. Believing that gender identity is subjective is “as bad as claiming that the world is flat”. Unsurprisingly, he was an early supporter of James Damore, the engineer fired by Google for his memo Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber." Finally "Peterson’s constellation of beliefs attracts a heterogeneous audience that includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis. This staunch anti-authoritarian also has a striking habit of demonising the left while downplaying dangers from the right. After the 2016 US election, Peterson described Trump as a “liberal” and a “moderate”, no more of a demagogue than Reagan. In as much as Trump voters are intolerant, Peterson claims, it is the left’s fault for sacrificing the working class on the altar of identity politics" From that one can sort of understand why a personality like Barton might be attracted to Peterson. All of those quotes were from papers and interviews of 5 years ago. Even more utter nonsense. Most academia is a load of b*llocks, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's evil, but the majority of it is absolute garbage. Islamophobia is a word generally used by cowards to manipulate morons. Generally the same cowards and morons who shout the loudest about LGBTQ+×÷% nonsense too. Complete oxymorons. I believe White privilege is a myth. Just common sense will pretty much tell you that. Nothing to do with being 'Right' or 'Left'. The 'Right' & 'Left' tittle tattle is so boring.
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Jul 16, 2023 22:30:30 GMT
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Post by orgasmic on Jul 16, 2023 22:30:30 GMT
This is the biggest nonsense article I’ve read in a long time! Written from a fixed mindset mentality of left versus right in his own black and white ideology. Bias to the point of recommending people subscribe themselves and any right leaning friends to this very publication. I can’t take a word of it seriously! As a left leaning person myself, it’s this sort of approach and mindset that keeps the left fractured and often a laughing stock! Good grief! But the point being, that is exactly the standpoint of people like Peterson. Unless you can show otherwise...can you? I rarely post on here anymore as I simply don’t have time to reply but I don’t understand what you mean. What is the stand point of Peterson?
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Post by orgasmic on Jul 16, 2023 22:31:58 GMT
Hmmm, it seems like a hater and a defector, if you could actually call him that, getting together to write a critical article. I’m not saying I agree with everything JP says, however I think he’s absolutely right when it comes to his transgender crusade against them in women’s sports and exposing the utter ridiculous ideology that trans men have no advantage over a biological female. I’ve read his 12 Rules for life book, and again, I see some value of the practical things he said, I’ve heard 50% of the sort of things on training courses over the years since the late 90s so not much of it is new information. One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk. One recent snippet on JPs opinion on Tate can be found here. www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-i-m-great-admirer-pi-s-jordan-peterson-gets-real-andrew-tate-says-appeal-like-violent-rapper"One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk." Really "For rightwing commentator Melanie Phillips, he is “a kind of secular prophet … in an era of lobotomised conformism”. He is also adored by figures on the so-called alt-light (basically the “alt-right” without the sieg heils and the white ethnostate), including Mike Cernovich, Gavin McInnes and Paul Joseph Watson." And "Last November, fellow University of Toronto professor Ira Wells called him “the professor of piffle” – a YouTube star rather than a credible intellectual. Tabatha Southey, a columnist for the Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. And "Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” More "The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”. White privilege is “a Marxist lie”. Believing that gender identity is subjective is “as bad as claiming that the world is flat”. Unsurprisingly, he was an early supporter of James Damore, the engineer fired by Google for his memo Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber." Finally "Peterson’s constellation of beliefs attracts a heterogeneous audience that includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis. This staunch anti-authoritarian also has a striking habit of demonising the left while downplaying dangers from the right. After the 2016 US election, Peterson described Trump as a “liberal” and a “moderate”, no more of a demagogue than Reagan. In as much as Trump voters are intolerant, Peterson claims, it is the left’s fault for sacrificing the working class on the altar of identity politics" From that one can sort of understand why a personality like Barton might be attracted to Peterson. All of those quotes were from papers and interviews of 5 years ago. Congratulations on Googling some people who don’t like him. Not sure what point you are making but good effort nonetheless! 👍🏻
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Post by oldie on Jul 17, 2023 6:02:09 GMT
"One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk." Really "For rightwing commentator Melanie Phillips, he is “a kind of secular prophet … in an era of lobotomised conformism”. He is also adored by figures on the so-called alt-light (basically the “alt-right” without the sieg heils and the white ethnostate), including Mike Cernovich, Gavin McInnes and Paul Joseph Watson." And "Last November, fellow University of Toronto professor Ira Wells called him “the professor of piffle” – a YouTube star rather than a credible intellectual. Tabatha Southey, a columnist for the Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. And "Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” More "The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”. White privilege is “a Marxist lie”. Believing that gender identity is subjective is “as bad as claiming that the world is flat”. Unsurprisingly, he was an early supporter of James Damore, the engineer fired by Google for his memo Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber." Finally "Peterson’s constellation of beliefs attracts a heterogeneous audience that includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis. This staunch anti-authoritarian also has a striking habit of demonising the left while downplaying dangers from the right. After the 2016 US election, Peterson described Trump as a “liberal” and a “moderate”, no more of a demagogue than Reagan. In as much as Trump voters are intolerant, Peterson claims, it is the left’s fault for sacrificing the working class on the altar of identity politics" From that one can sort of understand why a personality like Barton might be attracted to Peterson. All of those quotes were from papers and interviews of 5 years ago. Even more utter nonsense. Most academia is a load of b*llocks, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's evil, but the majority of it is absolute garbage. Islamophobia is a word generally used by cowards to manipulate morons. Generally the same cowards and morons who shout the loudest about LGBTQ+×÷% nonsense too. Complete oxymorons. I believe White privilege is a myth. Just common sense will pretty much tell you that. Nothing to do with being 'Right' or 'Left'. The 'Right' & 'Left' tittle tattle is so boring. I see your true colours (excuse the lazy pun) are on display Gastafari
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Post by oldie on Jul 17, 2023 6:04:05 GMT
"One thing I do like about Peterson is he isn’t chauvinistic in approach and can listen as well as talk." Really "For rightwing commentator Melanie Phillips, he is “a kind of secular prophet … in an era of lobotomised conformism”. He is also adored by figures on the so-called alt-light (basically the “alt-right” without the sieg heils and the white ethnostate), including Mike Cernovich, Gavin McInnes and Paul Joseph Watson." And "Last November, fellow University of Toronto professor Ira Wells called him “the professor of piffle” – a YouTube star rather than a credible intellectual. Tabatha Southey, a columnist for the Canadian magazine Macleans, designated him “the stupid man’s smart person”. And "Peterson’s secret sauce is to provide an academic veneer to a lot of old-school rightwing cant, including the notion that most academia is corrupt and evil, and banal self-help patter,” says Southey. “He’s very much a cult thing, in every regard. I think he’s a goof, which does not mean he’s not dangerous.” More "The idea that women were oppressed throughout history is an appalling theory.” Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons”. White privilege is “a Marxist lie”. Believing that gender identity is subjective is “as bad as claiming that the world is flat”. Unsurprisingly, he was an early supporter of James Damore, the engineer fired by Google for his memo Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber." Finally "Peterson’s constellation of beliefs attracts a heterogeneous audience that includes Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, centrist pundits and neo-Nazis. This staunch anti-authoritarian also has a striking habit of demonising the left while downplaying dangers from the right. After the 2016 US election, Peterson described Trump as a “liberal” and a “moderate”, no more of a demagogue than Reagan. In as much as Trump voters are intolerant, Peterson claims, it is the left’s fault for sacrificing the working class on the altar of identity politics" From that one can sort of understand why a personality like Barton might be attracted to Peterson. All of those quotes were from papers and interviews of 5 years ago. Congratulations on Googling some people who don’t like him. Not sure what point you are making but good effort nonetheless! 👍🏻 But you asked me what Paterson's standpoint was?
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