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Barton
Jul 12, 2023 11:55:13 GMT
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Post by nailseamark on Jul 12, 2023 11:55:13 GMT
Joey has this Uber masculine image is it any surprise he likes Tate?
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Jul 12, 2023 11:57:33 GMT
Younger Gas fans follow Joey on Twitter, so him endorsing podcasts with Andrew Tate in is irresponsible at best. I think it’s tucker Carlson interviewing Tate , but having only seen several clips unsure why/ what Barton is posting it for ? Dunno 🤷♂️ Attention. He just cannot live without it and this has been proven, many times. A dangerous game to play as, when he does eventually come to leave, he will not find another club who give him the freedoms and power he has, with us. I have tried to see both sides but, sadly, he cannot live without shaking wasp nests. Sad because i genuinely think he could be a very good manager, if only he concentrated on that |
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 12, 2023 12:10:14 GMT
My favourite Tait will never not be Paul.
The gangly Geordie pinged the cross bar from 50 yards at the Blackthorn End once, hero.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 12, 2023 12:17:27 GMT
Alleged trafficking, alleged multiple rape and other unsavoury things that i will not risk posting. The guy is a misogynist and another massive attention seeker, even a measured person, one who is guarded in what they say and write, would probably take a dislike to him, unless you maybe part of the INCEL movement. He and his brother are constantly taking pot shots at worm, tans and gay people. They seem to believe they have the same intelligence level as Jordan Patterson but then, Patterson does seem to back him and them. Very odd indeed Peterson - I think he backs them because the Tates say the odd sensible thing in a sea of terrible takes. Jordan Peterson is an acedmic, psychologist and scientist who is pretty sensible in most of his views which are usually formed on sea of scientific evidence. Andrew Tate might say 1 sensible thing in about 1000 of other fairly ghastly views without much creditbility from any educational or fact based sources. That doesnt make Peterson an apologist of Tate, it just means Tate hasnt departed the human race entirely. |
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Post by heartofgas on Jul 12, 2023 12:30:54 GMT
As with all these things I guess it's where you draw the line with freedom of speech and whether you should treat it as what someone does or says in their own life outside of a job as someway impacting on the job they do. Do I think I would get on with Joey Barton if I knew him personally, probably not. He is a pretty decent manager though and looking at it football wise I'm glad we have him. There are going to be people you don't like and there are going to be people who don't like you. Maybe we should stop worrying so much about these things.
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Post by percy on Jul 12, 2023 12:36:34 GMT
As with all these things I guess it's where you draw the line with freedom of speech and whether you should treat it as what someone does or says in their own life outside of a job as someway impacting on the job they do. Do I think I would get on with Joey Barton if I knew him personally, probably not. He is a pretty decent manager though and looking at it football wise I'm glad we have him. There are going to be people you don't like and there are going to be people who don't like you. Maybe we should stop worrying so much about these things. It's not he has done anything "wrong" that would lead to action it is just another in a long line of awful takes and/or things he should just keep quiet on whilst representing rovers and being someone young people (men especially) look up to. |
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Post by peterparker on Jul 12, 2023 12:39:04 GMT
As with all these things I guess it's where you draw the line with freedom of speech and whether you should treat it as what someone does or says in their own life outside of a job as someway impacting on the job they do. Do I think I would get on with Joey Barton if I knew him personally, probably not. He is a pretty decent manager though and looking at it football wise I'm glad we have him. There are going to be people you don't like and there are going to be people who don't like you. Maybe we should stop worrying so much about these things. I don't think many would argue with that. There is a difference though between Joey saying something a bit daft and ignoring it and suggesting a piece of sh** like Andrew Tate has something interesting to say For all the talk of Her Game Too when it came to Jevani Brown, Barton liking something of Tate's is far more dangerous and relevant to them. They are trying to make football a safe space for women, so the manager 'liking' anything of Tate's and possibly emboldening young men to treat women like sh** can actually make things harder for HGT, whom already get plenty of stick from arseholes |
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Barton
Jul 12, 2023 12:51:02 GMT
Post by heartofgas on Jul 12, 2023 12:51:02 GMT
As with all these things I guess it's where you draw the line with freedom of speech and whether you should treat it as what someone does or says in their own life outside of a job as someway impacting on the job they do. Do I think I would get on with Joey Barton if I knew him personally, probably not. He is a pretty decent manager though and looking at it football wise I'm glad we have him. There are going to be people you don't like and there are going to be people who don't like you. Maybe we should stop worrying so much about these things. It's not he has done anything "wrong" that would lead to action it is just another in a long line of awful takes and/or things he should just keep quiet on whilst representing rovers and being someone young people (men especially) look up to. This is really my point and I'm not just talking about just football here. There are going to be plenty of footballers and managers that aren't very nice. Same will be said for Actors, musicians and even the person serving you in the supermarket. I'm not sure too many people look up to Barton as a role model. So the question is should we just let him get on with it and do is job accepting he isn't particularly a nice person. |
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Post by oldie on Jul 12, 2023 12:55:46 GMT
Can anyone tell me what Andrew Tate has actually done? Charged with human trafficking |
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Post by Quarters on Jul 12, 2023 13:35:18 GMT
It's not he has done anything "wrong" that would lead to action it is just another in a long line of awful takes and/or things he should just keep quiet on whilst representing rovers and being someone young people (men especially) look up to. This is really my point and I'm not just talking about just football here. There are going to be plenty of footballers and managers that aren't very nice. Same will be said for Actors, musicians and even the person serving you in the supermarket. I'm not sure too many people look up to Barton as a role model. So the question is should we just let him get on with it and do is job accepting he isn't particularly a nice person. Not quite sure of your point but I would say. Mr Barton is the face of the club, and I get annoyed with some of his comments that eventually make the press. He is reported as Joe Barton Manager of Bristol Rovers, this alone leads to people asking me about stuff as they know I support Rovers. I therefore think that people have consequences when posting on social media, and those consequences will be greater the higher profile one has. |
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Barton
Jul 12, 2023 14:53:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 14:53:04 GMT
Is the offending tweet still there?
When I go on his page it doesn't appear for me any more. Fingers crossed he's given his head a wobble (or someone else has).
Still needs explaining. As I said before, absolutely brainless.
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Jul 12, 2023 14:56:58 GMT
Post by peterparker on Jul 12, 2023 14:56:58 GMT
Is the offending tweet still there? When I go on his page it doesn't appear for me any more. Fingers crossed he's given his head a wobble (or someone else has). Still needs explaining. As I said before, absolutely brainless. it's still there, just think Elon is Dam about with his toy again |
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Post by DrFaustus on Jul 12, 2023 15:05:28 GMT
Not sure what referencing Tate is going to achieve. The man (Tate) is absolute detritus.
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Post by phillistine on Jul 12, 2023 15:31:16 GMT
This is really my point and I'm not just talking about just football here. There are going to be plenty of footballers and managers that aren't very nice. Same will be said for Actors, musicians and even the person serving you in the supermarket. I'm not sure too many people look up to Barton as a role model. So the question is should we just let him get on with it and do is job accepting he isn't particularly a nice person. Not quite sure of your point but I would say. Mr Barton is the face of the club, and I get annoyed with some of his comments that eventually make the press. He is reported as Joe Barton Manager of Bristol Rovers, this alone leads to people asking me about stuff as they know I support Rovers. I therefore think that people have consequences when posting on social media, and those consequences will be greater the higher profile one has. I am not sure what planet some people are on. The guy is a football coach at Bristol Rovers - he is not the Pope or some moral crusader whose very voice influences many young minds. He doesnt ask people to follow him or obey his every word - You could even argue that the negativity that generally surrounds him in the media would put people off listening to him. He is absolutely entitled to a private life and to his own opinions. Why shouldn't he flag articles or debates that he may find interesting - he is not alone as over 768, 000 people have watched that clip, 147 have shared it and 205 even liked it - are you trying to tell me that they should be rebuked depending upon who they are and what their job is? The irony is that he hasn't says he agrees with anything only that he finds it interesting and you know what he was right to say that . if more people took the time to understand the views of people they may not agree with then perhaps there would be more compromise and less confrontation |
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Post by percy on Jul 12, 2023 15:37:46 GMT
Not quite sure of your point but I would say. Mr Barton is the face of the club, and I get annoyed with some of his comments that eventually make the press. He is reported as Joe Barton Manager of Bristol Rovers, this alone leads to people asking me about stuff as they know I support Rovers. I therefore think that people have consequences when posting on social media, and those consequences will be greater the higher profile one has. I am not sure what planet some people are on. The guy is a football coach at Bristol Rovers - he is not the Pope or some moral crusader whose very voice influences many young minds. He doesnt ask people to follow him or obey his every word - You could even argue that the negativity that generally surrounds him in the media would put people off listening to him. He is absolutely entitled to a private life and to his own opinions. Why shouldn't he flag articles or debates that he may find interesting - he is not alone as over 768, 000 people have watched that clip, 147 have shared it and 205 even liked it - are you trying to tell me that they should be rebuked depending upon who they are and what their job is? The irony is that he hasn't says he agrees with anything only that he finds it interesting and you know what he was right to say that . if more people took the time to understand the views of people they may not agree with then perhaps there would be more compromise and less confrontation He can have his opinions, including sharing content from the misogynist and accused rapist and trafficker all he wants. and people can say they dont want him associated with Bristol Rovers if they want too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 15:38:08 GMT
Not quite sure of your point but I would say. Mr Barton is the face of the club, and I get annoyed with some of his comments that eventually make the press. He is reported as Joe Barton Manager of Bristol Rovers, this alone leads to people asking me about stuff as they know I support Rovers. I therefore think that people have consequences when posting on social media, and those consequences will be greater the higher profile one has. I am not sure what planet some people are on. The guy is a football coach at Bristol Rovers - he is not the Pope or some moral crusader whose very voice influences many young minds. He doesnt ask people to follow him or obey his every word - You could even argue that the negativity that generally surrounds him in the media would put people off listening to him. He is absolutely entitled to a private life and to his own opinions. Why shouldn't he flag articles or debates that he may find interesting - he is not alone as over 768, 000 people have watched that clip, 147 have shared it and 205 even liked it - are you trying to tell me that they should be rebuked depending upon who they are and what their job is? The irony is that he hasn't says he agrees with anything only that he finds it interesting and you know what he was right to say that . if more people took the time to understand the views of people they may not agree with then perhaps there would be more compromise and less confrontation He represents our football club. He has recently been the the media for a bust up of some sort with his wife. We have just employed a player who has just pleaded guilty to a physical altercation with a female. Surely any reasonable person can see it would be best he didn't engage with this kind of content given the above to facts? Not that he has broken a law or anything but surely even his biggest fan can see that not tweeting that would be the best way forward? Put it this way, what does it achieve other than cause more controversy? |
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Barton
Jul 12, 2023 16:00:49 GMT
Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 12, 2023 16:00:49 GMT
He’s not referring to anything specifically. It could be any one of the millions points made in that almost 2 hour interview. Agreed. It absolutely could. There is very possibly something interesting in the whole thing. But... The tweet is vague and certainly leaves open the possibility that Barton is sympathetic to the cause of a pretty vile sexist narcissist (at best). If he really HAD to tweet, surely he could have said. "Obviously he is problematic for a host of reasons but there is some interesting parts to this interview ". Why leave it open like this. Why drag the name of our club in to another shadow. Utterly brainless.Agreed, no need to start a thread specifically for this?  |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 12, 2023 16:03:08 GMT
Peterson - I think he backs them because the Tates say the odd sensible thing in a sea of terrible takes. Jordan Peterson is an acedmic, psychologist and scientist who is pretty sensible in most of his views which are usually formed on sea of scientific evidence. Andrew Tate might say 1 sensible thing in about 1000 of other fairly ghastly views without much creditbility from any educational or fact based sources. That doesnt make Peterson an apologist of Tate, it just means Tate hasnt departed the human race entirely. Sounds like he's tailor-made for Gas Chat!  |
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Barton
Jul 12, 2023 16:32:37 GMT
Post by SleepyGas on Jul 12, 2023 16:32:37 GMT
Agreed. It absolutely could. There is very possibly something interesting in the whole thing. But... The tweet is vague and certainly leaves open the possibility that Barton is sympathetic to the cause of a pretty vile sexist narcissist (at best). If he really HAD to tweet, surely he could have said. "Obviously he is problematic for a host of reasons but there is some interesting parts to this interview ". Why leave it open like this. Why drag the name of our club in to another shadow. Utterly brainless.Agreed, no need to start a thread specifically for this? Is that because he does it so often now we should be desensitised? |
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Barton
Jul 12, 2023 17:01:39 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Jul 12, 2023 17:01:39 GMT
You have to wonder where the line is drawn with regards to what Wael allows him to post on his Twitter account, which he also uses to Tweet Rovers related news, as it's hard to believe a Rovers manager, or anybody employed by Rovers for that matter, can Tweet that they find this type of interview "interesting":
Tucker Carlson jetted off to Romania to join Andrew Tate for a sit-down chat at his home on the outskirts of Bucharest, where the influencer remains under house arrest. Last month, the 36-year-old king of toxic masculinity was charged with rape, human trafficking and forming a criminal gang to exploit women.
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