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Post by badengas on Sept 24, 2023 17:53:11 GMT
Anyone ITK if we're near or at the 500 supporters initial target ?
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Post by gasandrew on Sept 24, 2023 18:17:05 GMT
Quote from programme notes yesterday.
We are delighted to see the support that the Pirates Pot lottery has received with hundreds of supporters already signed up. We are now only a small number away from reaching the 500 threshold that will activate the first draw.
Talk about putting a positive spin on something that should have reached its target weeks ago
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Post by keygas on Sept 24, 2023 18:35:06 GMT
Quote from programme notes yesterday. We are delighted to see the support that the Pirates Pot lottery has received with hundreds of supporters already signed up. We are now only a small number away from reaching the 500 threshold that will activate the first draw. Talk about putting a positive spin on something that should have reached its target weeks ago IMHO I think the club could have marketed the scheme better, they have basically relied on internet access & emails to promote this new lottery. I would have thought giving out a few thousand leaflets explaining this new scheme at a home league game would have been beneficial & may have encouraged people to sign up. Also with with the cost of living issues & ticket prices at the moment, it’s probably not be the best time to ask people to cough up £10 a month. |
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Post by mftc on Sept 25, 2023 7:36:40 GMT
Quote from programme notes yesterday. We are delighted to see the support that the Pirates Pot lottery has received with hundreds of supporters already signed up. We are now only a small number away from reaching the 500 threshold that will activate the first draw. Talk about putting a positive spin on something that should have reached its target weeks ago IMHO I think the club could have marketed the scheme better, they have basically relied on internet access & emails to promote this new lottery. I would have thought giving out a few thousand leaflets explaining this new scheme at a home league game would have been beneficial & may have encouraged people to sign up. Also with with the cost of living issues & ticket prices at the moment, it’s probably not be the best time to ask people to cough up £10 a month. Still think there is a bit of "Us and Them" The FC staff are new and into all the latest gadgets and marketing. We are football people, we know best Helpline and the SC are old and use paper. What do they know, they are just old fans. The proof is in the pudding but the new Pots has not worked yet,despite emails and twitter adverts. Funny how the 50/50 still raises more - for the same cause, but they don't plug that? Funny how they close the Helpline when it was actually raising money? Funny how they ask for more money to the Pots but even though they know some people would only pay for programmes and 50/50 with cash, they still offer no olive branch - which would raise more money? Strange for a business to stubbornly refuse money and not listen to it's customers, when they actually ask for money, just in a different format. Bizarre really. I know it has been done to death on here but common sense would see the need for at least one cash bar or programme and 50/50 seller - helps when the system crashes anyway. |
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Post by wider on Sept 25, 2023 9:57:57 GMT
If the cashless system works it requires very little to keep going and provide all the accounting automatically. IF.
It also removes the opportunity for fiddling. Sadly it happens, not just people using the wrong tickets to cheat the club (and the rest of us).
At the moment it isn’t reliable. I turned up at 2:15, no programmes left and unable to buy 50/50s as the system was down again! Was down last time as well. I gave up queuing for a pastie at the last game and didn’t even bother this time remembering that 2 games ago they were burnt 🥵
That’s about £20 the club won’t see PLUS another £20 at least per game because queuing for a beer or cider takes too long and I’ve started going to The Beehive instead. They also do decent food. Since Jerk Chicken disappeared from the Fanzone that’s gone downhill imo. Taking cash if system goes down (which it does) is obvious. Taking cash alongside card etc maybe, do something about the food offerings and sort out the queues. (I usually get to one Friday night game at Bath Rugby per season and am amazed at how quickly the booze queues move with probably no more staff
Please BRFC get your act together and have a Plan B for everything.
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 25, 2023 11:32:22 GMT
There is another reason for making it cashless and as a business owner, i've had to make mine cashless and its something that is being pushed onto business in all industries.
Firstly, banks have made it more expensive to bank cash than they have credit card transactions.
Secondly, you have to reconcile that cash manually which means someone on a monday morning going counting loads of coins and doing a reconciliation sheet. With that comes the risk of giving the wrong change or open for a sticky fingered person to help themselves. Because we have even more food outlets than previously, all with different businesses, thats a lot of reconciliation. Card machines do reconciliation batch totals in seconds.
Thirdly, many business banks are now online banks and have no branches to actually visit to pay money in to, which is the case with me. I've saved myself thousands per year (My business turns over between £800k-£1m) in banking charges by switching to an online bank. The club may well have done the same and be tied by the same constrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 12:00:16 GMT
Anti climax clicking on this thread, I was hoping the title suggested the club were reselling private prescriptions for the magic plant for a moment. A new strain of weed with hints of Gas, cider an pasties, anyway, back to cloud cuckoo land.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Sept 26, 2023 14:18:44 GMT
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Sept 26, 2023 15:54:18 GMT
There is another reason for making it cashless and as a business owner, i've had to make mine cashless and its something that is being pushed onto business in all industries. Firstly, banks have made it more expensive to bank cash than they have credit card transactions. Secondly, you have to reconcile that cash manually which means someone on a monday morning going counting loads of coins and doing a reconciliation sheet. With that comes the risk of giving the wrong change or open for a sticky fingered person to help themselves. Because we have even more food outlets than previously, all with different businesses, thats a lot of reconciliation. Card machines do reconciliation batch totals in seconds. Thirdly, many business banks are now online banks and have no branches to actually visit to pay money in to, which is the case with me. I've saved myself thousands per year (My business turns over between £800k-£1m) in banking charges by switching to an online bank. The club may well have done the same and be tied by the same constrictions. All very valid points. A few businesses out in the sticks where I live have gone the same way, mainly because of point 1. Some people don't like it but are slowly getting used to it. All well and good when you have a robust system. Small businesses near me will begrudgingly take cash - depending on what's in the float - when there are issues. Rovers don't have that back up if the system goes down which according to some seems a regular occurrence. |
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Post by bathtubpirate on Sept 26, 2023 20:28:32 GMT
I've just signed up, should have done so earlier.
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Post by mftc on Sept 26, 2023 22:33:10 GMT
Will it run , even if the numbers havnt been met ? Think they need 500 ? They have already said it wouldn't run if 500 don't sign up. Even then based on the pledged prizes, it may not even break even. Needs a massive boost next Saturday. For the share scheme the players all joined, would be good to see the current crop do likewise. I signed up for Helpline after Alan Warboys came back to promote it at an event at the Crest Hotel and one of my mates signed up as Steve White and Mike England came to his house one evening. If Lofty and Taylor went to people's houses, I'm sure a few would sign up with those two towering above them. Maybe they should wear the Hale and Pace DJ's. (like Da Management!) Players now joined the Pots. Someone must have read my post. |
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 27, 2023 6:12:52 GMT
Quote from programme notes yesterday. We are delighted to see the support that the Pirates Pot lottery has received with hundreds of supporters already signed up. We are now only a small number away from reaching the 500 threshold that will activate the first draw. Talk about putting a positive spin on something that should have reached its target weeks ago IMHO I think the club could have marketed the scheme better, they have basically relied on internet access & emails to promote this new lottery. I would have thought giving out a few thousand leaflets explaining this new scheme at a home league game would have been beneficial & may have encouraged people to sign up. Also with with the cost of living issues & ticket prices at the moment, it’s probably not be the best time to ask people to cough up £10 a month. This cost of living thing? Nah. People still have Sky, the pubs are busy, restaurants are full(good ones), attendances are stable. I don't see it and it's just another convenient excuse for poor uptake. I think £10 a month is fine but the club don't market these things and harness the mood properly. They never do. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 7:45:29 GMT
IMHO I think the club could have marketed the scheme better, they have basically relied on internet access & emails to promote this new lottery. I would have thought giving out a few thousand leaflets explaining this new scheme at a home league game would have been beneficial & may have encouraged people to sign up. Also with with the cost of living issues & ticket prices at the moment, it’s probably not be the best time to ask people to cough up £10 a month. This cost of living thing? Nah. People still have Sky, the pubs are busy, restaurants are full(good ones), attendances are stable. I don't see it and it's just another convenient excuse for poor uptake. I think £10 a month is fine but the club don't market these things and harness the mood properly. They never do. Are you having a laugh? The hospitality industry has been decimated over the past few years. The amount of pubs closed now runs into the thousands compared to a decade ago, not sure where you live but it sounds like Clifton to me. |
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Post by richie on Sept 27, 2023 7:54:27 GMT
This cost of living thing? Nah. People still have Sky, the pubs are busy, restaurants are full(good ones), attendances are stable. I don't see it and it's just another convenient excuse for poor uptake. I think £10 a month is fine but the club don't market these things and harness the mood properly. They never do. Are you having a laugh? The hospitality industry has been decimated over the past few years. The amount of pubs closed now runs into the thousands compared to a decade ago, not sure where you live but it sounds like Clifton to me. siding with Gashead on this, always astounds me that people are queuing at the airport to take the kids skiing in half term and their 21 year old grown up kids are driving pass me on the motorway in a 25k motor. poor uptake is down to poor marketing |
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Post by oldie on Sept 27, 2023 10:09:26 GMT
Are you having a laugh? The hospitality industry has been decimated over the past few years. The amount of pubs closed now runs into the thousands compared to a decade ago, not sure where you live but it sounds like Clifton to me. siding with Gashead on this, always astounds me that people are queuing at the airport to take the kids skiing in half term and their 21 year old grown up kids are driving pass me on the motorway in a 25k motor. poor uptake is down to poor marketing A bit of both I suspect. Financial constraints decreases volume uptake and pi** poor marketing deflates what potential market there is. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 13:27:42 GMT
Are you having a laugh? The hospitality industry has been decimated over the past few years. The amount of pubs closed now runs into the thousands compared to a decade ago, not sure where you live but it sounds like Clifton to me. siding with Gashead on this, always astounds me that people are queuing at the airport to take the kids skiing in half term and their 21 year old grown up kids are driving pass me on the motorway in a 25k motor. poor uptake is down to poor marketing For the avoidance of confusion I was referring to restaurants and pubs specifically. This sector has been hammered, when the likes of Jamie Oliver are having to close multiple businesses its time to seriously look at the industry (which wont happen). An Italian restaurant in Bristol established 34 years closed recently citing lack of custom. There will always be families borrowing to give off a false image IMO. As someone working at the other end of the scale, begging organisations to help financially support essential services for vulnerable people who were once more prosperous and successful I see it differently. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 27, 2023 15:44:08 GMT
I thought the whole UK industry was on the verge of a recession?
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 27, 2023 20:28:42 GMT
siding with Gashead on this, always astounds me that people are queuing at the airport to take the kids skiing in half term and their 21 year old grown up kids are driving pass me on the motorway in a 25k motor. poor uptake is down to poor marketing For the avoidance of confusion I was referring to restaurants and pubs specifically. This sector has been hammered, when the likes of Jamie Oliver are having to close multiple businesses its time to seriously look at the industry (which wont happen). An Italian restaurant in Bristol established 34 years closed recently citing lack of custom. There will always be families borrowing to give off a false image IMO. As someone working at the other end of the scale, begging organisations to help financially support essential services for vulnerable people who were once more prosperous and successful I see it differently. Restaurants and pubs have closed due to cost of living? Many pubs have closed ironically due to new pubs opening-Wetherspoons. That chain single handedly destroyed local pubs in many areas. That has been happening for 25 years.(I was in the trade) On topic, if the club have got a small number of people to part with £10 per month, that is not due to cost of living imo. If people are using their final few quid to watch rovers, they need to realign priorities. I'd guess that most fans spend 3x the cost of a ticket on gambling, booze, travel and food every match. |
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Post by gas1967 on Sept 27, 2023 20:46:24 GMT
It’s manly due to pubco’s and the unrealistic rents!
As an example took over a pub that had shocking barralage sales, increased year one double, year two double again and year three stayed at that amount.
New agreement and the rent was set at five fold what it started at.
Freeholds are out of the question unless you have serious cash.
That then brings into question why freehold establishments like the mem charge as much as they do as they don’t have the extra overheads to pay for.
Yes a ex landlord!
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Post by gashead79 on Sept 27, 2023 21:13:11 GMT
It’s manly due to pubco’s and the unrealistic rents! As an example took over a pub that had shocking barralage sales, increased year one double, year two double again and year three stayed at that amount. New agreement and the rent was set at five fold what it started at. Freeholds are out of the question unless you have serious cash. That then brings into question why freehold establishments like the mem charge as much as they do as they don’t have the extra overheads to pay for. Yes a ex landlord! Yup, the breweries and owners destroy licence holders with daft rents and fees. There's a few old heads left with reasonable fees and those pubs tick over quite nicely. Breweries don't care as they have omnichannel ops with supermarkets anyway. Owners dont care as they'll make money on land if the yield dries up. Punters have money, it's just that you can sit at home now without the stigma of being an alchy and save £3 a pint! That spare cash goes elsewhere. |
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