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Post by Quarters on Aug 16, 2023 10:48:58 GMT
And also ignoring the fact that Hussain has already stated Conygar will build the stadium in exchange of the Mem. The Mem in exchange for a lease, so as the poster above says just like the Eastville Greyhound Stadium days. The mystery is therefore why was the same deal a problem for the club at UWE but its not at the Fruit Market? Please no one come out with the we would have been entitled to zero matchday revenue at the UWE line without referencing exactly the source of this incredulous claim. As we don't know the full details regarding UWE or FM how do you expect anyone to answer this? There was talk all over the place about lack of revenue streams at UWE, no one said zero matchday revenue, but one of the points of moving is to generate more income on all days. If it is a long lease and a set rent then not like Eastville. Back then they priced Rovers out of the stadium because hey wanted to sell. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Aug 16, 2023 10:51:55 GMT
Now I can why the attendance was nearly 13000 last night! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 16, 2023 10:53:04 GMT
And also ignoring the fact that Hussain has already stated Conygar will build the stadium in exchange of the Mem. The Mem in exchange for a lease, so as the poster above says just like the Eastville Greyhound Stadium days. The mystery is therefore why was the same deal a problem for the club at UWE but its not at the Fruit Market? Please no one come out with the we would have been entitled to zero matchday revenue at the UWE line without referencing exactly the source of this incredulous claim. The headline may sound familiar but the detail is an important difference, not really comparing like with like. A long lease, affordable rent and greater percentage of income makes a big difference. Devil in the detail, which we aren't privy to. |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 16, 2023 12:08:39 GMT
The Mem in exchange for a lease, so as the poster above says just like the Eastville Greyhound Stadium days. The mystery is therefore why was the same deal a problem for the club at UWE but its not at the Fruit Market? Please no one come out with the we would have been entitled to zero matchday revenue at the UWE line without referencing exactly the source of this incredulous claim. As we don't know the full details regarding UWE or FM how do you expect anyone to answer this? There was talk all over the place about lack of revenue streams at UWE, no one said zero matchday revenue, but one of the points of moving is to generate more income on all days. If it is a long lease and a set rent then not like Eastville. Back then they priced Rovers out of the stadium because hey wanted to sell. The Greyhound Stadium owners did want Rovers gone, that is true, but the FC had some protection against ridiculous rent increases at the whim of the landlord and the only way they got rid of us as a long term tenant was to pay us something like £240k to waive our rights to a new long term lease at fair market value. Flook and Bradshaw sold out those rights for short term gain but long term misery and it’s only thanks to the Dunford’s deal with the rugby club that we ever got back to Bristol and owned our own stadium for the first time since the Second World War. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 13:49:58 GMT
And also ignoring the fact that Hussain has already stated Conygar will build the stadium in exchange of the Mem. The Mem in exchange for a lease, so as the poster above says just like the Eastville Greyhound Stadium days. The mystery is therefore why was the same deal a problem for the club at UWE but its not at the Fruit Market? Please no one come out with the we would have been entitled to zero matchday revenue at the UWE line without referencing exactly the source of this incredulous claim. Since the departure of our esteemed fans director, whos lips were looser than Jordans, we have very little information on the detail and IMO that's how it should be. Two suspicions about this, firstly Wael was new to Bristol at the time of UWE and perhaps not up to speed on the limited building opps in Bristol and South Gloucs and thought he could get a much better deal elsewhere. Or perhaps this new deal that none of us are ever likely to know the detail is a much better deal than UWE. Who knows? I do trust in Wael though as he has and continues to deliver a better Bristol Rovers than the one he inherited. I would doubt very much that it's the same deal though, interesting that Hussain speaks the same language as Wael with sustainability getting a regular mention. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 16, 2023 13:57:06 GMT
The Mem in exchange for a lease, so as the poster above says just like the Eastville Greyhound Stadium days. The mystery is therefore why was the same deal a problem for the club at UWE but its not at the Fruit Market? Please no one come out with the we would have been entitled to zero matchday revenue at the UWE line without referencing exactly the source of this incredulous claim. Since the departure of our esteemed fans director, whos lips were looser than Jordans, we have very little information on the detail and IMO that's how it should be. Two suspicions about this, firstly Wael was new to Bristol at the time of UWE and perhaps not up to speed on the limited building opps in Bristol and South Gloucs and thought he could get a much better deal elsewhere. Or perhaps this new deal that none of us are ever likely to know the detail is a much better deal than UWE. Who knows? I do trust in Wael though as he has and continues to deliver a better Bristol Rovers than the one he inherited. I would doubt very much that it's the same deal though, interesting that Hussain speaks the same language as Wael with sustainability getting a regular mention. And thank allah he has gone because most of the loose lipped information was total bollocks to begin with but it didn’t stop his cronies peddling it as fact. Anyway. The UWE deal was probably the best deal this club would ever had for a stadium. A fixed price of £23m for the build on a couple of centuries long lease and we were entitled to all matchday revenue which went on within the boundaries of the stadium. The only reason why it didn’t go ahead was Hani didn’t want to build it and Hamer and the crew then sought their own interests in trying to manoeuvre it away from UWE for their own gain. Originally Ed and Nick we meant to stay on the board to see the UWE to completion but an hour before the announcement Hamer came to them both and said that we don’t want you on board and if you protest, the deal is off. For some reason Hamer had complete control of Hani and I honestly believe that had Wael been the man in charge at the time, he would have built the UWE stadium. That is also the opinion of the ones involved and DC. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 16, 2023 14:59:08 GMT
Since the departure of our esteemed fans director, whos lips were looser than Jordans, we have very little information on the detail and IMO that's how it should be. Two suspicions about this, firstly Wael was new to Bristol at the time of UWE and perhaps not up to speed on the limited building opps in Bristol and South Gloucs and thought he could get a much better deal elsewhere. Or perhaps this new deal that none of us are ever likely to know the detail is a much better deal than UWE. Who knows? I do trust in Wael though as he has and continues to deliver a better Bristol Rovers than the one he inherited. I would doubt very much that it's the same deal though, interesting that Hussain speaks the same language as Wael with sustainability getting a regular mention. And thank allah he has gone because most of the loose lipped information was total bollocks to begin with but it didn’t stop his cronies peddling it as fact. Anyway. The UWE deal was probably the best deal this club would ever had for a stadium. A fixed price of £23m for the build on a couple of centuries long lease and we were entitled to all matchday revenue which went on within the boundaries of the stadium. The only reason why it didn’t go ahead was Hani didn’t want to build it and Hamer and the crew then sought their own interests in trying to manoeuvre it away from UWE for their own gain. Originally Ed and Nick we meant to stay on the board to see the UWE to completion but an hour before the announcement Hamer came to them both and said that we don’t want you on board and if you protest, the deal is off. For some reason Hamer had complete control of Hani and I honestly believe that had Wael been the man in charge at the time, he would have built the UWE stadium. That is also the opinion of the ones involved and DC. This post doesn't sound like it's written by someone with links to the old board 😂. |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 16, 2023 14:59:33 GMT
Since the departure of our esteemed fans director, whos lips were looser than Jordans, we have very little information on the detail and IMO that's how it should be. Two suspicions about this, firstly Wael was new to Bristol at the time of UWE and perhaps not up to speed on the limited building opps in Bristol and South Gloucs and thought he could get a much better deal elsewhere. Or perhaps this new deal that none of us are ever likely to know the detail is a much better deal than UWE. Who knows? I do trust in Wael though as he has and continues to deliver a better Bristol Rovers than the one he inherited. I would doubt very much that it's the same deal though, interesting that Hussain speaks the same language as Wael with sustainability getting a regular mention. And thank allah he has gone because most of the loose lipped information was total bollocks to begin with but it didn’t stop his cronies peddling it as fact. Anyway. The UWE deal was probably the best deal this club would ever had for a stadium. A fixed price of £23m for the build on a couple of centuries long lease and we were entitled to all matchday revenue which went on within the boundaries of the stadium. The only reason why it didn’t go ahead was Hani didn’t want to build it and Hamer and the crew then sought their own interests in trying to manoeuvre it away from UWE for their own gain. Originally Ed and Nick we meant to stay on the board to see the UWE to completion but an hour before the announcement Hamer came to them both and said that we don’t want you on board and if you protest, the deal is off. For some reason Hamer had complete control of Hani and I honestly believe that had Wael been the man in charge at the time, he would have built the UWE stadium. That is also the opinion of the ones involved and DC. Hani had control of Hamer, not the other way around. Hamer did Hani’s bidding. Hani as you say didn’t want to build UWE or have much to do with the FC and was happy to sell it to someone else who might and got Hamer involved in trying to offload. Wael did not want Hani to do that and so found himself working against not only his brother but his brother’s bidder Hamer. If Mr Al Qadi senior had not died the club would by now be in different ownership. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Aug 16, 2023 15:07:01 GMT
Worth remembering everyone:
What is posted on here is not proven fact, and many other opinions on who said and did what are available 👍🏾
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Post by yattongas on Aug 16, 2023 15:12:58 GMT
Worth remembering everyone: What is posted on here is not proven fact, and many other opinions on who said and did what are available 👍🏾 But if it’s repeated more than 3 times it becomes a Gaschat fact. |
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Post by badengas on Aug 16, 2023 15:40:33 GMT
Worth remembering everyone: What is posted on here is not proven fact, and many other opinions on who said and did what are available 👍🏾 But if it’s repeated more than 3 times it becomes a Gaschat fact. Gaschatjuice Gaschatjuice Gaschatjuice |
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Post by kruger on Aug 16, 2023 15:52:47 GMT
Worth remembering everyone: What is posted on here is not proven fact, and many other opinions on who said and did what are available 👍🏾 Yeah but I was speaking to someone down the pub (a very good sauce) last night who knows someone down the other pub I go to said we are as rich as Man City, you heard it here 1st |
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Post by gasheadontour on Aug 16, 2023 17:28:22 GMT
The Mem is worth tens of millions, the training ground would have a value and the club has no debt. New shares were created for the investors to buy a majority shareholding. How much did they pay for the shares? The shares were in DS and the figures aren't in the public domain as far as I know. Being a private company it would be for the relevant parties to decide. put it another way having invested tens of millions it would seem doubtful that Wael would have created new shares to give someone else control of it all unless the new investors have invested at least a similar sum. |
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Post by phillistine on Aug 16, 2023 17:30:42 GMT
The shares were in DS and the figures aren't in the public domain as far as I know. Being a private company it would be for the relevant parties to decide. put it another way having invested tens of millions it would seem doubtful that Wael would have created new shares to give someone else control of it all unless the new investors have invested at least a similar sum. Surely its not just about what they have spent so far but more about what they are prepared to invest in the future which is more relevant. I am sure that was something that Wael would have wanted to know |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 16, 2023 17:32:07 GMT
The shares were in DS and the figures aren't in the public domain as far as I know. Being a private company it would be for the relevant parties to decide. put it another way having invested tens of millions it would seem doubtful that Wael would have created new shares to give someone else control of it all unless the new investors have invested at least a similar sum. Probably, but we don't know and as interesting as it is, anything we suggest on here is just speculation. |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Aug 16, 2023 17:32:32 GMT
The shares were in DS and the figures aren't in the public domain as far as I know. Being a private company it would be for the relevant parties to decide. put it another way having invested tens of millions it would seem doubtful that Wael would have created new shares to give someone else control of it all unless the new investors have invested at least a similar sum. Good point. Most likely then is that he’s sold his own shares and so the money stumped up by the new investor isn’t money going into the club. Unless it’s a bit of both. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 16, 2023 18:35:52 GMT
Since the departure of our esteemed fans director, whos lips were looser than Jordans, we have very little information on the detail and IMO that's how it should be. Two suspicions about this, firstly Wael was new to Bristol at the time of UWE and perhaps not up to speed on the limited building opps in Bristol and South Gloucs and thought he could get a much better deal elsewhere. Or perhaps this new deal that none of us are ever likely to know the detail is a much better deal than UWE. Who knows? I do trust in Wael though as he has and continues to deliver a better Bristol Rovers than the one he inherited. I would doubt very much that it's the same deal though, interesting that Hussain speaks the same language as Wael with sustainability getting a regular mention. And thank allah he has gone because most of the loose lipped information was total bollocks to begin with but it didn’t stop his cronies peddling it as fact. Anyway. The UWE deal was probably the best deal this club would ever had for a stadium. A fixed price of £23m for the build on a couple of centuries long lease and we were entitled to all matchday revenue which went on within the boundaries of the stadium. The only reason why it didn’t go ahead was Hani didn’t want to build it and Hamer and the crew then sought their own interests in trying to manoeuvre it away from UWE for their own gain. Originally Ed and Nick we meant to stay on the board to see the UWE to completion but an hour before the announcement Hamer came to them both and said that we don’t want you on board and if you protest, the deal is off. For some reason Hamer had complete control of Hani and I honestly believe that had Wael been the man in charge at the time, he would have built the UWE stadium. That is also the opinion of the ones involved and DC. Or more likely Wael never really had the nerve to fund a new stadium, the same situation seems to be occurring again with the FM, hence why Wael's turned to new investors to get the deal over the line, I sense this is the start of the end of Wael's time at Rovers and we will see the new owners gradually increasing the % of shares they own. From TG's Twitter photo it seems the whole family are invested in the club not just one part of the family. |
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Post by aghast on Aug 16, 2023 21:27:32 GMT
Worth remembering everyone: What is posted on here is not proven fact, and many other opinions on who said and did what are available 👍🏾 Yeah but I was speaking to someone down the pub (a very good sauce) last night who knows someone down the other pub I go to said we are as rich as Man City, you heard it here 1st I bet he said that with relish. He's dressing it up, but maybe he needs to ketchup with the times. |
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Post by playtowin on Aug 17, 2023 8:09:08 GMT
The subject of the continued development of the Quarters has been quiet for some time. Though it seems hearing from the new guys ,JB ,Wael etc that this seems number one priority.
So i would expect to see new plans for the Quarters emerging reasonably soon.
Prem/championship standard plus the Academy moving there.
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Post by gasheadontour on Aug 17, 2023 13:26:49 GMT
The subject of the continued development of the Quarters has been quiet for some time. Though it seems hearing from the new guys ,JB ,Wael etc that this seems number one priority. So i would expect to see new plans for the Quarters emerging reasonably soon. Prem/championship standard plus the Academy moving there. it would cost several millions to bring it to that standard. |
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