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Aug 21, 2023 22:06:09 GMT
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Post by BrightonGas on Aug 21, 2023 22:06:09 GMT
No smoke without fire id say... It's definitely not happening. No harm in hyping him up! |
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Aug 21, 2023 22:07:33 GMT
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Post by fanboy on Aug 21, 2023 22:07:33 GMT
Football is kinda hilarious at times... When we signed him a few were underwhelmed and worried that he wouldn't deliver the goals required for safety. Honestly he hadn't been prolific too often before and maybe the shouts were fair. 4.5 years and 90 goals later and some people still arent sure... c'mon lads his attitude was fine here, he bagged goals and he'd be a crazy coup. It'll never happen though. If the option to take JCH is available and you don’t want him here… you’re mad!!! |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Aug 21, 2023 23:24:06 GMT
It’s just a feeling I have - think they might clash - but that’s not always a bad thing ! 🤔💙utg Think when Coughlan was managing him here there was a point when he said he had to almost get JCH annoyed so he went out with that bit of an edge? Might be wrong but sure I remember something along those lines. Oh ok I must have missed that 💙utg |
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Aug 21, 2023 23:43:42 GMT
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Post by oasisgas on Aug 21, 2023 23:43:42 GMT
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 22, 2023 0:21:14 GMT
For me there's too much smoke for there not to be a fire, here.
Joey's previous comments and his obvious admiration of him as a player.
Darrell MacAnthonys comments about us being dark horses from out of nowhere.
Andy Mangan's comments about being excited about future signings.
Sam Finleys post match comments on Saturday about future players coming in.
Then Tom Gorringe's answer to a direct question about JCH in that interview he did. Why not just nip in the bud and say as much as we like him, there's no way we're in the market?
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Aug 22, 2023 0:24:08 GMT
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Post by singupgas on Aug 22, 2023 0:24:08 GMT
If we are going to sign him, could do with him asap. We need goals.
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Aug 22, 2023 4:41:17 GMT
Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 22, 2023 4:41:17 GMT
Football is kinda hilarious at times... When we signed him a few were underwhelmed and worried that he wouldn't deliver the goals required for safety. Honestly he hadn't been prolific too often before and maybe the shouts were fair. 4.5 years and 90 goals later and some people still arent sure... c'mon lads his attitude was fine here, he bagged goals and he'd be a crazy coup. It'll never happen though. If the option to take JCH is available and you don’t want him here… you’re mad!!! He's league ones best goal scorer after the past few seasons. Many people say they would rather us get someone younger and upcoming but they wouldn't get anywhere near as many goals as JCH. A younger alternative may set us up for the future but wouldn't get us in the play offs this season. Anyway, its not happening, because of the fact he is the best striker in league one! |
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Aug 22, 2023 7:06:53 GMT
Post by westfieldgas on Aug 22, 2023 7:06:53 GMT
Ah, the rumour that wont go away..... Hoping we sign a forward this week to silence the speculation. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ACTUAL LINKS. No-one ITK on here is suggesting anything either. Rovers paying £900k for a player? Not a chance.
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Post by kylegas on Aug 22, 2023 7:42:28 GMT
Ah, the rumour that wont go away..... Hoping we sign a forward this week to silence the speculation. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ACTUAL LINKS. No-one ITK on here is suggesting anything either. Rovers paying £900k for a player? Not a chance. My only concern is whoever it turns out to be it’s just gonna be disappointing if it’s not JCH haha |
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Post by oasisgas on Aug 22, 2023 7:45:27 GMT
Ah, the rumour that wont go away..... Hoping we sign a forward this week to silence the speculation. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ACTUAL LINKS. No-one ITK on here is suggesting anything either. Rovers paying £900k for a player? Not a chance. No disrespect mate but I can't really see how you can highlight in capitals no actual link yet when some random fan from another team on twitter posts a player and us in the same sentance you are on here saying "we have been linked with so and so". Think you will find a few of the ITK on here are keeping quiet either because they don't believe what they have heard or have been told not to share the info they have. You seem to be pressing for us to sign a striker ASAP this week but I would much rather the club wait another week if it means we get the right player. There seems to be a few fans on here who seem to not want JCH back for some reason, Now I could understand if he was an injury prone journeyman which some have already said he is on here yet when you respond with fact that he has played at least 42 games for each of the past 3 season you do have to question some fans thinking. Also when fans say he will cost some serious money, That is what usually happens when you are buying a proven striker. Had he been injury prone or not got the goals he has got like some believe in their head is the case then yup he would probably cost us around £100k but sadly for those who believe that is the case that ain't gonna happen. |
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Aug 22, 2023 7:52:54 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Aug 22, 2023 7:52:54 GMT
Ah, the rumour that wont go away..... Hoping we sign a forward this week to silence the speculation. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ACTUAL LINKS. No-one ITK on here is suggesting anything either. Rovers paying £900k for a player? Not a chance. No disrespect mate but I can't really see how you can highlight in capitals no actual link yet when some random fan from another team on twitter posts a player and us in the same sentance you are on here saying "we have been linked with so and so". Think you will find a few of the ITK on here are keeping quiet either because they don't believe what they have heard or have been told not to share the info they have. You seem to be pressing for us to sign a striker ASAP this week but I would much rather the club wait another week if it means we get the right player. There seems to be a few fans on here who seem to not want JCH back for some reason, Now I could understand if he was an injury prone journeyman which some have already said he is on here yet when you respond with fact that he has played at least 42 games for each of the past 3 season you do have to question some fans thinking. Also when fans say he will cost some serious money, That is what usually happens when you are buying a proven striker. Had he been injury prone or not got the goals he has got like some believe in their head is the case then yup he would probably cost us around £100k but sadly for those who believe that is the case that ain't gonna happen. I’m not so sure it’s fans saying they don’t want him back but they think the money can be better spent . I’d have him back for 400k but think it would be utter madness to spend 800k-1.5m or whatever wild valuation some think we might be prepared to pay . |
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Aug 22, 2023 7:53:26 GMT
Post by westfieldgas on Aug 22, 2023 7:53:26 GMT
Ah, the rumour that wont go away..... Hoping we sign a forward this week to silence the speculation. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ACTUAL LINKS. No-one ITK on here is suggesting anything either. Rovers paying £900k for a player? Not a chance. No disrespect mate but I can't really see how you can highlight in capitals no actual link yet when some random fan from another team on twitter posts a player and us in the same sentance you are on here saying "we have been linked with so and so". Think you will find a few of the ITK on here are keeping quiet either because they don't believe what they have heard or have been told not to share the info they have. You seem to be pressing for us to sign a striker ASAP this week but I would much rather the club wait another week if it means we get the right player. There seems to be a few fans on here who seem to not want JCH back for some reason, Now I could understand if he was an injury prone journeyman which some have already said he is on here yet when you respond with fact that he has played at least 42 games for each of the past 3 season you do have to question some fans thinking. Also when fans say he will cost some serious money, That is what usually happens when you are buying a proven striker. Had he been injury prone or not got the goals he has got like some believe in their head is the case then yup he would probably cost us around £100k but sadly for those who believe that is the case that ain't gonna happen. Appreciate your reply & tone. My point is more so how expensive JCH as a package would cost the club, wages, fee. If we can afford it, go for it, he's the best CF in League One! What I'm more saying is I hope we sign a forward this week to squash the Jonno rumours, for me it is never going to happen in a million years. It's causing unrealistic expectations of the club IMO. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 22, 2023 7:57:05 GMT
If we are going to sign him, could do with him asap. We need goals. We only have one game before the window shuts. Apparently we bid for May are in talks with JCH. So hopefully we will bring in a goal scorer, who ever it is. Probably a last minute loan😂 |
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Aug 22, 2023 8:07:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2023 8:07:58 GMT
No disrespect mate but I can't really see how you can highlight in capitals no actual link yet when some random fan from another team on twitter posts a player and us in the same sentance you are on here saying "we have been linked with so and so". Think you will find a few of the ITK on here are keeping quiet either because they don't believe what they have heard or have been told not to share the info they have. You seem to be pressing for us to sign a striker ASAP this week but I would much rather the club wait another week if it means we get the right player. There seems to be a few fans on here who seem to not want JCH back for some reason, Now I could understand if he was an injury prone journeyman which some have already said he is on here yet when you respond with fact that he has played at least 42 games for each of the past 3 season you do have to question some fans thinking. Also when fans say he will cost some serious money, That is what usually happens when you are buying a proven striker. Had he been injury prone or not got the goals he has got like some believe in their head is the case then yup he would probably cost us around £100k but sadly for those who believe that is the case that ain't gonna happen. I’m not so sure it’s fans saying they don’t want him back but they think the money can be better spent . I’d have him back for 400k but think it would be utter madness to spend 800k-1.5m or whatever wild valuation some think we might be prepared to pay . Would we even be allowed to spend near that figure with ffp? |
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Aug 22, 2023 8:10:15 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Aug 22, 2023 8:10:15 GMT
I’m not so sure it’s fans saying they don’t want him back but they think the money can be better spent . I’d have him back for 400k but think it would be utter madness to spend 800k-1.5m or whatever wild valuation some think we might be prepared to pay . Would we even be allowed to spend near that figure with ffp? Not sure , we’ll have even less next yr I’d guess because (I think) this yrs ffp is based on last yrs takings . With the south stand out of action it’ll be costing us in more than one way . |
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Post by oasisgas on Aug 22, 2023 8:13:49 GMT
No disrespect mate but I can't really see how you can highlight in capitals no actual link yet when some random fan from another team on twitter posts a player and us in the same sentance you are on here saying "we have been linked with so and so". Think you will find a few of the ITK on here are keeping quiet either because they don't believe what they have heard or have been told not to share the info they have. You seem to be pressing for us to sign a striker ASAP this week but I would much rather the club wait another week if it means we get the right player. There seems to be a few fans on here who seem to not want JCH back for some reason, Now I could understand if he was an injury prone journeyman which some have already said he is on here yet when you respond with fact that he has played at least 42 games for each of the past 3 season you do have to question some fans thinking. Also when fans say he will cost some serious money, That is what usually happens when you are buying a proven striker. Had he been injury prone or not got the goals he has got like some believe in their head is the case then yup he would probably cost us around £100k but sadly for those who believe that is the case that ain't gonna happen. I’m not so sure it’s fans saying they don’t want him back but they think the money can be better spent . I’d have him back for 400k but think it would be utter madness to spend 800k-1.5m or whatever wild valuation some think we might be prepared to pay . I can see where you are coming from with the fee but if you are aiming for the championship and you have two choices, You get offered one player for £400k who has got 10-15 goals in the previous season and he is around 24/25 you got a chance of him doing well and selling him on if he does it for a decent profit or you double that fee but whilst there is never anything certain in life that player has scored 25+ goals not only last season but his other season in league 1 and 12 in the championship then you have to think it through. JCH may cost us 800k and may struggle but going by his recent seasons you would say that is quite a long shot or you go with the younger cheaper option who may carry on improving and you get a decent fee or you end up with a Stefan Payne or Tom Nichols situation. Sell on fee is important I agree but if you aim this season is to have a right go at getting to the championship and or you wanna hit the play-offs at the very least then you need to get the tried and tested player in. Resale value is probably more important to clubs like Cheltenham, Exeter etc who will be happy to finnish mid-table this season but if our new owner and/or wael want us in the championship within 2/3 years than the last thing they will be thinking off is the sell on fee for the striker we plan to sign before the window closes. |
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Post by Quarters on Aug 22, 2023 8:21:35 GMT
I’m not so sure it’s fans saying they don’t want him back but they think the money can be better spent . I’d have him back for 400k but think it would be utter madness to spend 800k-1.5m or whatever wild valuation some think we might be prepared to pay . I can see where you are coming from with the fee but if you are aiming for the championship and you have two choices, You get offered one player for £400k who has got 10-15 goals in the previous season and he is around 24/25 you got a chance of him doing well and selling him on if he does it for a decent profit or you double that fee but whilst there is never anything certain in life that player has scored 25+ goals not only last season but his other season in league 1 and 12 in the championship then you have to think it through. JCH may cost us 800k and may struggle but going by his recent seasons you would say that is quite a long shot or you go with the younger cheaper option who may carry on improving and you get a decent fee or you end up with a Stefan Payne or Tom Nichols situation. Sell on fee is important I agree but if you aim this season is to have a right go at getting to the championship and or you wanna hit the play-offs at the very least then you need to get the tried and tested player in. Resale value is probably more important to clubs like Cheltenham, Exeter etc who will be happy to finnish mid-table this season but if our new owner and/or wael want us in the championship within 2/3 years than the last thing they will be thinking off is the sell on fee for the striker we plan to sign before the window closes. And look at the clubs who try to "buy" promotion then fail. Plenty examples around who have tried then got into trouble. We are not a seriously rich club. |
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2023 8:28:43 GMT
I’m not so sure it’s fans saying they don’t want him back but they think the money can be better spent . I’d have him back for 400k but think it would be utter madness to spend 800k-1.5m or whatever wild valuation some think we might be prepared to pay . Would we even be allowed to spend near that figure with ffp? Yes. League One and League Two Clubs follow the Salary Cost Management Protocol (“SCMP”) These state that Clubs can only spend a fixed percentage of its revenue on player wages etc. This limit can also be added to or impacted by equity injections or net transfer spend. "FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing up club debts. In League 1 and League 2, a wealthy owner can therefore fund the club spending in a way that is not permitted in other divisions" www.financialfairplay.co.uk/scmp.php |
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Aug 22, 2023 8:36:52 GMT
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Post by oasisgas on Aug 22, 2023 8:36:52 GMT
I can see where you are coming from with the fee but if you are aiming for the championship and you have two choices, You get offered one player for £400k who has got 10-15 goals in the previous season and he is around 24/25 you got a chance of him doing well and selling him on if he does it for a decent profit or you double that fee but whilst there is never anything certain in life that player has scored 25+ goals not only last season but his other season in league 1 and 12 in the championship then you have to think it through. JCH may cost us 800k and may struggle but going by his recent seasons you would say that is quite a long shot or you go with the younger cheaper option who may carry on improving and you get a decent fee or you end up with a Stefan Payne or Tom Nichols situation. Sell on fee is important I agree but if you aim this season is to have a right go at getting to the championship and or you wanna hit the play-offs at the very least then you need to get the tried and tested player in. Resale value is probably more important to clubs like Cheltenham, Exeter etc who will be happy to finnish mid-table this season but if our new owner and/or wael want us in the championship within 2/3 years than the last thing they will be thinking off is the sell on fee for the striker we plan to sign before the window closes. And look at the clubs who try to "buy" promotion then fail. Plenty examples around who have tried then got into trouble. We are not a seriously rich club. To be fair to Wael, if we were to sign JCH then it would be because we have done the numbers and can make it work. Don't think Wael is the type to think "Ok the fans want JCH but we can't afford him but lets just go for it and see what happens" in s*** or bust territory. |
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Aug 22, 2023 8:55:46 GMT
Post by phillistine on Aug 22, 2023 8:55:46 GMT
And look at the clubs who try to "buy" promotion then fail. Plenty examples around who have tried then got into trouble. We are not a seriously rich club. To be fair to Wael, if we were to sign JCH then it would be because we have done the numbers and can make it work. Don't think Wael is the type to think "Ok the fans want JCH but we can't afford him but lets just go for it and see what happens" in s*** or bust territory. it seems to me that the owners are all building for the future rather than short term objectives. Somebody will have to put a case together as to why signing JCH - if that is what we are going to do _ is going to help us to achieve our longer term goals rather than any emotional - "oh he scores goals and i would like to see him in the quarters shirt". Will he get us promotion - will he earn us more money? If we dont sign him do we have a good enough strike force to achieve whatever the owners want from this season? Only they know that answers and whether they are prepared to spend their money on him |
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