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Aug 22, 2023 9:25:12 GMT
Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 22, 2023 9:25:12 GMT
Just for perspective City paid £1m for Lee Trundle in 2007 (16 years ago)
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Aug 22, 2023 9:25:42 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 22, 2023 9:25:42 GMT
Putting aside the fiasco with the south stand for a minute and assuming it gets put up with 20 games left.
Let’s now assume that JCH costs us £1.5mn in fees.
And again let’s assume that it puts 3,000 on the gates as we’re immediately onto an auto promotion / possibly even title chase.
Now let’s assume £25 per ticket.
That’s £1.5mn in extra revenue returned before you’re even promoted.
Don’t worry about how much the fees cost because it could pay for itself.
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Aug 22, 2023 9:28:30 GMT
Post by Quarters on Aug 22, 2023 9:28:30 GMT
Putting aside the fiasco with the south stand for a minute and assuming it gets put up with 20 games left. Let’s now assume that JCH costs us £1.5mn in fees. And again let’s assume that it puts 3,000 on the gates as we’re immediately onto an auto promotion / possibly even title chase. Now let’s assume £25 per ticket. That’s £1.5mn in extra revenue returned before you’re even promoted. Don’t worry about how much the fees cost because it could pay for itself. let's assume the assumptions are correct. |
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Aug 22, 2023 9:30:20 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Aug 22, 2023 9:30:20 GMT
Just for perspective City paid £1m for Lee Trundle in 2007 (16 years ago) Obvs don’t follow the six fingered twats but what’s their record transfer fee they have paid ? |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 22, 2023 9:31:03 GMT
I've no doubt that the management want to sign another striker but there are still no clear links to JCH. (In my opinion, he will stay at Peterborough).
I can see it going down to the final day before we do sign a striker. I can also easily see us bringing someone in on loan on the last day instead of actually buying anybody. Someone similar to Coburn.
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Aug 22, 2023 9:32:10 GMT
Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 22, 2023 9:32:10 GMT
Just for perspective City paid £1m for Lee Trundle in 2007 (16 years ago) Obvs don’t follow the six fingered twats but what’s their record transfer fee they have paid ? I think I remember hearing they paid £8m for Kalas a few years ago. Not sure if that is their record though. |
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Aug 22, 2023 9:32:19 GMT
Post by eric on Aug 22, 2023 9:32:19 GMT
Just for perspective City paid £1m for Lee Trundle in 2007 (16 years ago) It was about 25 years ago that they bought Thorpe and Akinbiyi around the same time for million plus transfer fees - third tier at the time if I remember rightly |
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Aug 22, 2023 9:34:11 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 22, 2023 9:34:11 GMT
Putting aside the fiasco with the south stand for a minute and assuming it gets put up with 20 games left. Let’s now assume that JCH costs us £1.5mn in fees. And again let’s assume that it puts 3,000 on the gates as we’re immediately onto an auto promotion / possibly even title chase. Now let’s assume £25 per ticket. That’s £1.5mn in extra revenue returned before you’re even promoted. Don’t worry about how much the fees cost because it could pay for itself. And where are you getting the seats from for the extra 3k? |
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Aug 22, 2023 9:35:42 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Aug 22, 2023 9:35:42 GMT
Obvs don’t follow the six fingered twats but what’s their record transfer fee they have paid ? I think I remember hearing they paid £8m for Kalas a few years ago. Not sure if that is their record though. 😮 |
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Aug 22, 2023 9:36:37 GMT
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Post by DrFaustus on Aug 22, 2023 9:36:37 GMT
The only nagging doubt for me, is the new major shareholder's assertion that promotion isn't his priority. If that's the case and not something that was lost in the nuances of someone speaking their second language (albeit fluently), why spend big on a proven goalscorer?
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Aug 22, 2023 9:41:32 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Aug 22, 2023 9:41:32 GMT
The only nagging doubt for me, is the new major shareholder's assertion that promotion isn't his priority. If that's the case and not something that was lost in the nuances of someone speaking their second language (albeit fluently), why spend big on a proven goalscorer? Gotta wait for the infrastructure init ! We can’t even put up a temporary stand 😂 |
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Aug 22, 2023 10:01:16 GMT
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Post by TAGas on Aug 22, 2023 10:01:16 GMT
Obvs don’t follow the six fingered twats but what’s their record transfer fee they have paid ? I think I remember hearing they paid £8m for Kalas a few years ago. Not sure if that is their record though. I think that's right and he got released in the summer. Money well spent |
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Aug 22, 2023 10:21:24 GMT
I know I’ve said this previously but whilst I think JCH is a fantastic proven League 1 goal scorer I just can’t see us (or understand why people think that we will) spend up to £1m on a player… JCH - even in his last year of his contract is probably going to cost over £750k (probably closer to £1m plus) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest that our owners will splash that kind of cash on a transfer fee and then the sizeable wages on top - especially when he’ll be a free transfer next summer and we can arrange pre contract arrangements in Jan? (And we’re a more likely to be in a strong position if we are in a decent position for a promotion push / looking likely for promotion)…
I also think he’s the right player but wrong time as I can’t see him fitting into our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line …. We’d have to change our style of play to suit and get the most out of him and I don’t think JB will want to do that…
Stranger things have happened but I just can’t see JCH coming back happening or even being seriously considered imo… yes we went in for Alfie May but he was priced significantly cheaper and slightly better suited to how we play….
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Post by popuppirate on Aug 22, 2023 10:28:11 GMT
I know I’ve said this previously but whilst I think JCH is a fantastic proven League 1 goal scorer I just can’t see us (or understand why people think that we will) spend up to £1m on a player… JCH - even in his last year of his contract is probably going to cost over £750k (probably closer to £1m plus) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest that our owners will splash that kind of cash on a transfer fee and then the sizeable wages on top - especially when he’ll be a free transfer next summer and we can arrange pre contract arrangements in Jan? (And we’re a more likely to be in a strong position if we are in a decent position for a promotion push / looking likely for promotion)… I also think he’s the right player but wrong time as I can’t see him fitting into our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line …. We’d have to change our style of play to suit and get the most out of him and I don’t think JB will want to do that… Stranger things have happened but I just can’t see JCH coming back happening or even being seriously considered imo… yes we went in for Alfie May but he was priced significantly cheaper and slightly better suited to how we play…. How we played on Saturday clearly didn't work, as has been the case against similar styles of play of the opposition. If we had been scoring freely from open play in the past 12 months I might be inclined to agree with you. I also think Barton will want to work on JCH to improve him, but at the end of the day I'd be more than happy with a lazy, immobile, 1 million pound striker who scores 25 goals a season for us. |
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Aug 22, 2023 11:08:01 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 22, 2023 11:08:01 GMT
Putting aside the fiasco with the south stand for a minute and assuming it gets put up with 20 games left. Let’s now assume that JCH costs us £1.5mn in fees. And again let’s assume that it puts 3,000 on the gates as we’re immediately onto an auto promotion / possibly even title chase. Now let’s assume £25 per ticket. That’s £1.5mn in extra revenue returned before you’re even promoted. Don’t worry about how much the fees cost because it could pay for itself. And where are you getting the seats from for the extra 3k? Them 3k seats being erected as we speak. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 22, 2023 11:09:01 GMT
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Aug 22, 2023 11:18:06 GMT
I know I’ve said this previously but whilst I think JCH is a fantastic proven League 1 goal scorer I just can’t see us (or understand why people think that we will) spend up to £1m on a player… JCH - even in his last year of his contract is probably going to cost over £750k (probably closer to £1m plus) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest that our owners will splash that kind of cash on a transfer fee and then the sizeable wages on top - especially when he’ll be a free transfer next summer and we can arrange pre contract arrangements in Jan? (And we’re a more likely to be in a strong position if we are in a decent position for a promotion push / looking likely for promotion)… I also think he’s the right player but wrong time as I can’t see him fitting into our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line …. We’d have to change our style of play to suit and get the most out of him and I don’t think JB will want to do that… Stranger things have happened but I just can’t see JCH coming back happening or even being seriously considered imo… yes we went in for Alfie May but he was priced significantly cheaper and slightly better suited to how we play…. How we played on Saturday clearly didn't work, as has been the case against similar styles of play of the opposition. If we had been scoring freely from open play in the past 12 months I might be inclined to agree with you. I also think Barton will want to work on JCH to improve him, but at the end of the day I'd be more than happy with a lazy, immobile, 1 million pound striker who scores 25 goals a season for us. I understand that but Saturday was a one off tepid performance which could have been different if Collins scored his 1 on 1 when it was still 0-0.. We’ve been creating chances in all of our previous games and have been a little unlucky to have not scored more with hitting the post, oppo keepers and defenders having blinders as well as some poor shooting… I don’t think JCH is lazy or immobile, he has a particular style that he has had coached all his career where he is the focal point and he typically will play centrally and hold the edge of the area kinda space with the expectation of ball to feet to him… he’s not an off the shoulder type player - very much a strong , bully defenders and use his power and strength…. We just don’t play in that way… we see Marquis come deep, we see Thomas, Collins, Marquis and Sinclair (or whoever the front 4 are) constantly rotate and switch positions and we operate a high high press to force mistakes… that isn’t Jonno’s game imo and if we try and convert him to be like that will he be as prolific? Will he land and start banging the goals in straight away and will he want to change (he’s 29 and an established player) and how long would it take to coach him to be effective playing in a different way… That said - it’s the fee that means he won’t be coming in my opinion. I just don’t believe or see any indication in our owners that they’ll fork out upwards of £750k (and we know DM will try and screw us out of every penny he can) on a player they can get for free in Summer 2024 (and can tie up on a pre contract) in 4 months time… Jonno is playing so it’s not like Peterborough are sidelining him - he’s an important part of their team and it’s purely financial why they are looking to sell |
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 22, 2023 11:24:33 GMT
I know I’ve said this previously but whilst I think JCH is a fantastic proven League 1 goal scorer I just can’t see us (or understand why people think that we will) spend up to £1m on a player… JCH - even in his last year of his contract is probably going to cost over £750k (probably closer to £1m plus) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest that our owners will splash that kind of cash on a transfer fee and then the sizeable wages on top - especially when he’ll be a free transfer next summer and we can arrange pre contract arrangements in Jan? (And we’re a more likely to be in a strong position if we are in a decent position for a promotion push / looking likely for promotion)… I also think he’s the right player but wrong time as I can’t see him fitting into our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line …. We’d have to change our style of play to suit and get the most out of him and I don’t think JB will want to do that… Stranger things have happened but I just can’t see JCH coming back happening or even being seriously considered imo… yes we went in for Alfie May but he was priced significantly cheaper and slightly better suited to how we play…. The thing is, our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line were completely ineffective against Cambridge. We barely laid a glove on them and looked clueless for much of the game. Someone like JCH would enable us to go a bit more direct in those type of games. He's also a better finisher than any player we have in the squad, so would almost guarantee us 20 goals a season. I'd be more excited by someone like Nombe if were were going to spend big money, but I certainly wouldn't be against signing JCH and would be delighted to see him back in the quarters. Personally, I just can't see us spending that sort of money, and I'm not really sure why so many seem to believe we're suddenly going to spend 2 or 3 times our previous transfer record this summer. I hope I'm wrong. I think we will sign a striker but it's more likely to be a loan like Coburn. |
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Aug 22, 2023 11:27:11 GMT
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Post by bluestickgas1 on Aug 22, 2023 11:27:11 GMT
I know I’ve said this previously but whilst I think JCH is a fantastic proven League 1 goal scorer I just can’t see us (or understand why people think that we will) spend up to £1m on a player… JCH - even in his last year of his contract is probably going to cost over £750k (probably closer to £1m plus) and I’ve seen nothing to suggest that our owners will splash that kind of cash on a transfer fee and then the sizeable wages on top - especially when he’ll be a free transfer next summer and we can arrange pre contract arrangements in Jan? (And we’re a more likely to be in a strong position if we are in a decent position for a promotion push / looking likely for promotion)… I also think he’s the right player but wrong time as I can’t see him fitting into our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line …. We’d have to change our style of play to suit and get the most out of him and I don’t think JB will want to do that… Stranger things have happened but I just can’t see JCH coming back happening or even being seriously considered imo… yes we went in for Alfie May but he was priced significantly cheaper and slightly better suited to how we play…. The thing is, our dynamic, fluid, high energy front line were completely ineffective against Cambridge. We barely laid a glove on them and looked clueless for much of the game. Someone like JCH would enable us to go a bit more direct in those type of games. He's also a better finisher than any player we have in the squad, so would almost guarantee us 20 goals a season. I'd be more excited by someone like Nombe if were were going to spend big money, but I certainly wouldn't be against signing JCH and would be delighted to see him back in the quarters. Personally, I just can't see us spending that sort of money, and I'm not really sure why so many seem to believe we're suddenly going to spend 2 or 3 times our previous transfer record this summer. I hope I'm wrong. I think we will sign a striker but it's more likely to be a loan like Coburn. I completely agree… I’m not against JCH coming back and I think he is a fantastic proven striker at this level but I really just can’t see us spending that kind of money… I think we’ll get a striker but it’ll be a loan and I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw Coburn return… |
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Aug 22, 2023 11:31:42 GMT
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Post by pirate on Aug 22, 2023 11:31:42 GMT
And our record fee is still Andy Tillson for £370,000 nearly 30 years ago! 😆🤣 |
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